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Started by CharlieCharger, April 02, 2007, 03:42:37 PM

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CharlieCharger

April 02, 2007, 03:42:37 PM
How much in your Honest opinion would you spend on restoring a 72 SE 318 car..I've started on replacing lower quarters..but It looks like I will have to replace part of the roof, atleast the a-pillars..is it worth it? I know its my car and I determine the value but..Im curious. I have a few pics..the fram rails are very solid!
Earth. Even the word sounded strange to me now... unfamiliar. How long had I been gone? How long had I been back? Did it matter? I tried to find the rhythm of the world where I used to live. I followed the current. I was silent, attentive, I made a conscious effort to smile, nod, stand, and perform the millions of gestures that constitute life on earth. I studied these gestures until they became reflexes again. But I was haunted by the idea that I remembered her wrong -Solaris

CharlieCharger

#1
April 02, 2007, 03:45:40 PM
Here is some more pics..
Earth. Even the word sounded strange to me now... unfamiliar. How long had I been gone? How long had I been back? Did it matter? I tried to find the rhythm of the world where I used to live. I followed the current. I was silent, attentive, I made a conscious effort to smile, nod, stand, and perform the millions of gestures that constitute life on earth. I studied these gestures until they became reflexes again. But I was haunted by the idea that I remembered her wrong -Solaris

TruckDriver

#2
April 02, 2007, 04:13:06 PM
If your going that far to redo it, drop a big block in it or at least a 360. You can find a roof fairly easy yet.
PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

CharlieCharger

#3
April 02, 2007, 04:16:27 PM
I plan on droping a 440 in it for sure.. :yesnod: I was even thinking about going the new age 5.7 hemi route but all that wiring looks like a pain in arse
Earth. Even the word sounded strange to me now... unfamiliar. How long had I been gone? How long had I been back? Did it matter? I tried to find the rhythm of the world where I used to live. I followed the current. I was silent, attentive, I made a conscious effort to smile, nod, stand, and perform the millions of gestures that constitute life on earth. I studied these gestures until they became reflexes again. But I was haunted by the idea that I remembered her wrong -Solaris

Daytona R/T SE

#4
April 02, 2007, 04:53:32 PM
If you can do the work yourself, do it. If you have to pay a shop to do that rust repair it will cost you a fortune...

CharlieCharger

#5
April 02, 2007, 04:58:28 PM
I plan on doing the trunk, and a few other parts but..the roof and a pillars im leaving it to someone who`s good with metal..I have to be honest I have been sitting on it for a while wondering if its gonna be worth it..but I really love the car and she is pretty when intact.
Earth. Even the word sounded strange to me now... unfamiliar. How long had I been gone? How long had I been back? Did it matter? I tried to find the rhythm of the world where I used to live. I followed the current. I was silent, attentive, I made a conscious effort to smile, nod, stand, and perform the millions of gestures that constitute life on earth. I studied these gestures until they became reflexes again. But I was haunted by the idea that I remembered her wrong -Solaris

nakita7

#6
April 02, 2007, 05:21:12 PM
I love 72 SE's. I had a black on tan 400 auto one that I added 72 Rallye doors, tailights and a bulge hood to. They are cool cars, but IMHO, if you are doing it for profit to sell right away, it's a waste of time. The 318 cars are nothing. However, in ten years it will be a different ball game. If you restore at todays costs and keep it for awhile you will definately recoup. About 2 cents worth...

TruckDriver

#7
April 02, 2007, 05:24:16 PM
It is worth it. I have had people tell me because the trunk in my desert car is rusted out, it's not worth it. But even though it is a small following, there are people out there that love the '72 SE rear quarter windows. I didn't like them at first, but once I got used to them, I like them now.  :yesnod:

I love this '72 SE.
PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

Dude

#8
April 02, 2007, 05:59:22 PM
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,18845.msg206731.html#msg206731

Dude,

Check out this car, the dude spent big bang on this one, it's a 4 speed, too!

CharlieCharger

#9
April 02, 2007, 06:36:06 PM
I had no plans on selling it at all..Im not planning on flipping it or anything like that..a couple of 2nd gen guys told me to loose it somewhere..heh
Earth. Even the word sounded strange to me now... unfamiliar. How long had I been gone? How long had I been back? Did it matter? I tried to find the rhythm of the world where I used to live. I followed the current. I was silent, attentive, I made a conscious effort to smile, nod, stand, and perform the millions of gestures that constitute life on earth. I studied these gestures until they became reflexes again. But I was haunted by the idea that I remembered her wrong -Solaris

TruckDriver

#10
April 02, 2007, 06:51:43 PM
Quote from: CharlieCharger on April 02, 2007, 06:36:06 PM
I had no plans on selling it at all..Im not planning on flipping it or anything like that..a couple of 2nd gen guys told me to loose it somewhere..heh

I had that happen too. I won't name the DC.com board either where that happened :D

I would however, trade it for a second gen in the same condition as mine...







Like that will ever happen :P
PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

Charger1973

#11
April 02, 2007, 08:54:31 PM
Its worth it.  Thats a good looking car and those parts arent that hard to come by.  You may have a little money into it if you dont do the metal work but in the end you will be glad you did. 

Paul G

#12
April 02, 2007, 09:00:36 PM
Third gen prices are going up. If you build it the way you want it and intend to keep it for a while you wont get hurt on it. Just make it desirable. Paint it a good color, put a hot motor in it and it will do just fine. If you put a big block hemi in there and you could pretty much name your price when it's done.
1972 Charger Topper Special, 360ci, 46RH OD trans, 8 3/4 sure grip with 3.91 gear, 14.93@92 mph.
1973 Charger Rallye, 4 speed, muscle rat. Whatever engine right now?

Mopars Unlimited of Arizona

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CharlieCharger

#13
April 03, 2007, 01:16:33 PM
I must say, I appreciate the words of inspiration..thanks fellow 3rd gen guys
Earth. Even the word sounded strange to me now... unfamiliar. How long had I been gone? How long had I been back? Did it matter? I tried to find the rhythm of the world where I used to live. I followed the current. I was silent, attentive, I made a conscious effort to smile, nod, stand, and perform the millions of gestures that constitute life on earth. I studied these gestures until they became reflexes again. But I was haunted by the idea that I remembered her wrong -Solaris

jasonfromIKILLYA

#14
April 03, 2007, 02:49:42 PM
just adding my support.  I bought my 3rd gen because I couldn't afford a 2nd, but I love it now.  that damage doesn't look bad, fix it!!
"Great souls have always received violent opposition from mediocre minds" - Einstein

Nacho-RT74

#15
April 03, 2007, 03:41:37 PM
my car was some similar on front windshield and lower section of rear glass
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
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purple70rt

#16
April 03, 2007, 03:46:43 PM
Quote from: CharlieCharger on April 02, 2007, 06:36:06 PM
I had no plans on selling it at all..Im not planning on flipping it or anything like that..a couple of 2nd gen guys told me to loose it somewhere..heh

:iagree: :iagree:

Mean 318

#17
April 03, 2007, 03:52:35 PM
There will always be people who will tell you it isn't worth it!  :DI cant tell you how many people have told me.. and tell me to sell my 70 Coronet. I say if you love the car then fix it! You may be her last chance!

CharlieCharger

#18
April 03, 2007, 04:25:58 PM
im waiting to get the measurements from the repro trunk pans they say there getting in a month or two..then I will start drilling or using a 4.5 to get to the spot welds since im not keeping the piece thats in it now.
Earth. Even the word sounded strange to me now... unfamiliar. How long had I been gone? How long had I been back? Did it matter? I tried to find the rhythm of the world where I used to live. I followed the current. I was silent, attentive, I made a conscious effort to smile, nod, stand, and perform the millions of gestures that constitute life on earth. I studied these gestures until they became reflexes again. But I was haunted by the idea that I remembered her wrong -Solaris

CharlieCharger

#19
April 03, 2007, 04:31:51 PM
trunk pan and starting on the roof, minor surface rust..some through holes..my concern was the drip rail and the channel under the drip rail where the top of the window rest when its up? not sure what its called..I need to get ahold of a manual but anyway its ate all to hell..it would look hard to fabricate something like that..
Earth. Even the word sounded strange to me now... unfamiliar. How long had I been gone? How long had I been back? Did it matter? I tried to find the rhythm of the world where I used to live. I followed the current. I was silent, attentive, I made a conscious effort to smile, nod, stand, and perform the millions of gestures that constitute life on earth. I studied these gestures until they became reflexes again. But I was haunted by the idea that I remembered her wrong -Solaris

CharlieCharger

#20
April 03, 2007, 04:35:05 PM
trunk pan and starting on the roof, minor surface rust..some through holes..my concern was the drip rail and the channel under the drip rail where the top of the window rest when its up? not sure what its called..I need to get ahold of a manual but anyway its ate all to hell..it would look hard to fabricate something like that..
Earth. Even the word sounded strange to me now... unfamiliar. How long had I been gone? How long had I been back? Did it matter? I tried to find the rhythm of the world where I used to live. I followed the current. I was silent, attentive, I made a conscious effort to smile, nod, stand, and perform the millions of gestures that constitute life on earth. I studied these gestures until they became reflexes again. But I was haunted by the idea that I remembered her wrong -Solaris

mikesbbody

#21
April 03, 2007, 05:24:05 PM
charlie, nothing wrong with a 72 se i have one myself fix her up!

LL1 1967 Coronet

#22
April 03, 2007, 08:15:13 PM
Charlie, what color combo is your car?

Silver R/T

#23
April 03, 2007, 09:57:03 PM
Go ahead and fix it, its going to be good investment over the years. You cant buy what you learn along the way,.
http://www.cardomain.com/id/mitmaks

1968 silver/black/red striped R/T
My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722

jasonfromIKILLYA

#24
April 03, 2007, 10:09:19 PM
I just view building a muscle car as a personal experience and when you're done it will be worth more to you than you could ever sell it for.  I know some people don't see it that way, but I just don't understand any other way to look at it.  We're guys (most of us) and any woman will tell you our cars are just an extension of our ..........   :angel:
"Great souls have always received violent opposition from mediocre minds" - Einstein

CharlieCharger

#25
April 05, 2007, 12:23:46 PM
right now its plum crazy, however it looks to be a little darker than that in some view points, however I was thinking of going with a gun metal grey with black stripes black top and interior..like the picture.. :yesnod:
Earth. Even the word sounded strange to me now... unfamiliar. How long had I been gone? How long had I been back? Did it matter? I tried to find the rhythm of the world where I used to live. I followed the current. I was silent, attentive, I made a conscious effort to smile, nod, stand, and perform the millions of gestures that constitute life on earth. I studied these gestures until they became reflexes again. But I was haunted by the idea that I remembered her wrong -Solaris

The70RT

#26
April 05, 2007, 12:49:43 PM
From what I can see the roof is not that bad. If your putting a vinyl back on it would cover any minor imperfections you may have after replacing some metal. If you are doing the trunk work yourself then the roof work won't be that hard after you get your welding down. There is lots of info on here on roof rust. I just did mine....it looked worse than yours does. That looks like a nice car....don't let us 2ed gen fans discourage you. I never cared for them but they have grown on me as of late. I may get one before it is all said and done. Then when they say get a second gen I can say who's do you think is sitting beside this one :icon_smile_big:
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LL1 1967 Coronet

#27
April 05, 2007, 01:53:29 PM
That's what it looked like.....Plum Crazy was never available in '72 . Must have been a different color when new.

CharlieCharger

#28
April 05, 2007, 02:06:29 PM
I believe the color originally was a B1 the original color can be seen in the trunk pan picture..any input? No fender tag.
Earth. Even the word sounded strange to me now... unfamiliar. How long had I been gone? How long had I been back? Did it matter? I tried to find the rhythm of the world where I used to live. I followed the current. I was silent, attentive, I made a conscious effort to smile, nod, stand, and perform the millions of gestures that constitute life on earth. I studied these gestures until they became reflexes again. But I was haunted by the idea that I remembered her wrong -Solaris

Paul G

#29
April 05, 2007, 02:41:46 PM
I love gun metal gray. Good choice if you ask me. 
1972 Charger Topper Special, 360ci, 46RH OD trans, 8 3/4 sure grip with 3.91 gear, 14.93@92 mph.
1973 Charger Rallye, 4 speed, muscle rat. Whatever engine right now?

Mopars Unlimited of Arizona

http://www.moparsaz.com/#

Silver68RT

#30
April 05, 2007, 03:38:32 PM
My friend Bob is getting ready to cut up my old '72 Charger SE and junk it.  I'm not sure what the window channels and roof look like under the vinyl, but there may be some useable parts if you're interested.  Fenders, quarters, and rockers are all junk, but the roof and A-pillars might still be good.  I don't know what the trunk floor is like now, but it didn't seem too bad the last time I looked.  We're in the Detroit, Michigan area.

CharlieCharger

#31
April 05, 2007, 03:47:48 PM
I would be interested in what the roof is like, say from 3 inches down the a-pillar to about 1 inch into the 1/4 plugs about 2 inches back from the end of the drip rail..I would be very interested..perhaps a right fender..right tail light lens...let me know..I'm in the Houston,TX area though.. :yesnod:
Earth. Even the word sounded strange to me now... unfamiliar. How long had I been gone? How long had I been back? Did it matter? I tried to find the rhythm of the world where I used to live. I followed the current. I was silent, attentive, I made a conscious effort to smile, nod, stand, and perform the millions of gestures that constitute life on earth. I studied these gestures until they became reflexes again. But I was haunted by the idea that I remembered her wrong -Solaris

Charger1973

#32
April 05, 2007, 03:48:13 PM
I'll probably have some repair panels that would work sometime soon too 

CharlieCharger

#33
April 05, 2007, 03:49:18 PM
1/4 window plugs I meant, sorry..
Earth. Even the word sounded strange to me now... unfamiliar. How long had I been gone? How long had I been back? Did it matter? I tried to find the rhythm of the world where I used to live. I followed the current. I was silent, attentive, I made a conscious effort to smile, nod, stand, and perform the millions of gestures that constitute life on earth. I studied these gestures until they became reflexes again. But I was haunted by the idea that I remembered her wrong -Solaris

CharlieCharger

#34
April 05, 2007, 03:51:47 PM
Quote from: Charger1973 on April 05, 2007, 03:48:13 PM
I'll probably have some repair panels that would work sometime soon too 
I would be interested in hearing about those..thanks fellas.
Earth. Even the word sounded strange to me now... unfamiliar. How long had I been gone? How long had I been back? Did it matter? I tried to find the rhythm of the world where I used to live. I followed the current. I was silent, attentive, I made a conscious effort to smile, nod, stand, and perform the millions of gestures that constitute life on earth. I studied these gestures until they became reflexes again. But I was haunted by the idea that I remembered her wrong -Solaris

KANON

#35
April 05, 2007, 04:09:34 PM
440 440 is better bro
EL INFRAMUNDO YA VIENE

CharlieCharger

#36
April 06, 2007, 03:18:55 PM
I was actually planning on keeping the 318 with a few upgrades for to cruise with a while and enjoy it with these gas prices, and in the backround build me a nice fresh hot 440.. 8.75 3.23 a decent hwy gear ? I wanna enjoy it cruising a while before becoming a tire smoker. Anyone agree?
Earth. Even the word sounded strange to me now... unfamiliar. How long had I been gone? How long had I been back? Did it matter? I tried to find the rhythm of the world where I used to live. I followed the current. I was silent, attentive, I made a conscious effort to smile, nod, stand, and perform the millions of gestures that constitute life on earth. I studied these gestures until they became reflexes again. But I was haunted by the idea that I remembered her wrong -Solaris

TruckDriver

#37
April 06, 2007, 04:45:24 PM
I say just go balls out right off the bat, and do the 440 thing right away. No pain, no gain.  :yesnod:


But, it's your car, do what make you happy.
PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

CharlieCharger

#38
April 24, 2007, 01:54:00 PM
I have some new pics of the damage I was concerned with here you go fellas..tell me what you think..It is the Pass.Side drip rail area..
Earth. Even the word sounded strange to me now... unfamiliar. How long had I been gone? How long had I been back? Did it matter? I tried to find the rhythm of the world where I used to live. I followed the current. I was silent, attentive, I made a conscious effort to smile, nod, stand, and perform the millions of gestures that constitute life on earth. I studied these gestures until they became reflexes again. But I was haunted by the idea that I remembered her wrong -Solaris

The70RT

#39
April 24, 2007, 05:49:26 PM
Ouch! If you had a parts car that would be the route I may go. If not it will take some time to patch it all in. If you don't want to mess with it, you may have to farm it out......or sell it to me :D
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Charger1973

#40
April 24, 2007, 06:07:46 PM
Im almost positive Ive got some good clean rails I could sell.  Its raining or I would go check now.  Let me know what the body man says and what you decide to do...   

CharlieCharger

#41
April 24, 2007, 06:15:17 PM
Quote from: Charger1973 on April 24, 2007, 06:07:46 PM
Im almost positive Ive got some good clean rails I could sell.  Its raining or I would go check now.  Let me know what the body man says and what you decide to do...   

I sure will..I have not heard back from him as of yet..but I'm sure he will email me back by tonight..thanks Matt
Earth. Even the word sounded strange to me now... unfamiliar. How long had I been gone? How long had I been back? Did it matter? I tried to find the rhythm of the world where I used to live. I followed the current. I was silent, attentive, I made a conscious effort to smile, nod, stand, and perform the millions of gestures that constitute life on earth. I studied these gestures until they became reflexes again. But I was haunted by the idea that I remembered her wrong -Solaris

Doright

#42
April 25, 2007, 04:46:12 PM
Do you have a good interior?
Did it run and drive good before you started?
Roof is shot will need major repair to fix, if every thing else is good fix roof paint car put it back together and drive it and use Feberglass and bondo in trunk temporally and do it latter! when funds are better at least rest of car will be done.

I am a fan of doing one project at a time till its done or done enough to do all at once, once all the hard jobs are done one thing at a time, then tackle the whole thing all at once.
That way you always have light at the end of the tunnel.
My 72 SE when I brought her home


Doright
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I play with cars because Jets are way too serious to be fun any more
I have so many car projects that cars are beginning to be no fun any more

Doright

#43
April 25, 2007, 04:52:08 PM
Its a U code 440 with power windows and power sunroof and was a matching number block till I found out the block needed repairs, the good news is the block is repairable so I will tuck it up under my bench and build another 440 for it, allows me to get wild if I want too :D.
Car has some minor rust issues but nothing really sevear.   
Doright
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I play with cars because Jets are way too serious to be fun any more
I have so many car projects that cars are beginning to be no fun any more

Doright

#44
April 25, 2007, 05:56:10 PM
HEY I figured out linking !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



got a good fender and hood with a set of hood hinges??? possible bubble hood?????

a Couple cars I finished and sold lately




acauple I am getting ready for ebay now







Doright
A&P FCC 
I play with cars because Jets are way too serious to be fun any more
I have so many car projects that cars are beginning to be no fun any more

Doright

#45
April 25, 2007, 06:01:54 PM



I am very proad of this car and wish I hadnt sold it soo cheap it was perfect in every way
Doright
A&P FCC 
I play with cars because Jets are way too serious to be fun any more
I have so many car projects that cars are beginning to be no fun any more
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