Full OEM style steel quarters for 68-70.

[69RTSEV88]

Just got my May '07 issue of Mopar Collectors Guide and there it is on page 33 from Hardcore Racing Inc.  Full steel, made in the USA, officially licensed by Mopar, factory style including full C pillar quarters for 68-70 Chargers.  I checked their web site out www.weracehardcore.com and they wont have prices until April (I would expect them to be a little pricey), but finally we are getting somewhere!!  Of course it does little good for me as I have just spent the past few months patching my cars quarter with the panels that were available up until now:(  Anyway, they look like they are going to be pretty nice.  Maybe fenders, doors, and tailight panels will be coming soon too!

[daytonalo]

I called , 2500 each!!!!!!!!!!! For me , being a poor bastard , I will have to stick with skins !!!!!!!!!!!! For the record , those guys are clueless . It took 4 phone calls to get a person who could walk upright and answer my questions !!!!!!!

[Shakey]

You can read what people have said about this subject in this thread.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25254.0.html

You wouldn't happen to be associated with the manufacturer would you?   

If you are and you're looking for opinions on this product, here's mine.  At this point I am not in need of any quarter panels for my car however if I was, and I was doing a quality restoration of a '69 Charger, I'd consider buying them.  I realize they are expensive but I'd think they'd be worth it.  Now, if I were doing a rattle can resto, just to get a car up and running, I'd have to think twice.

Either way, welcome to the site!   

[mikepmcs]

Welcome.

[tan top]

 hello & welcome ........ .......................

[69RTSEV88]

Thanks to those that welcomed me, I have been reading posts on here for a while, gaining alot of knowledge as I am in the process of a semi-restoration on my '69 RT/SE.  No, I am not associated with this company at all, and as a matter of fact I am a little ticked off at them for their publicity stunt last summer in which they felt it necessary to jump and destroy (of course) a 69 General Lee during their open house just for laughs.  I think the video is still on their web site.
I am though very happy that they have stepped up to the plate to reproduce what has to be one of the most intricate automotive quarter panels ever made.  I dont think that 2-2.5K ea is that unreasonable when you consider that they had to have invested over a million in the project including tool and dye costs.  And they are made in the US which as we all know is getting more rare for anything these days!
A seller had left and right NOS '69 quarters on EBAY last fall, saying that they were most likely the last ones left in existance (probably pretty accurate), and the starting bid on the pair was $15,000!  Yes that's 15 thousand.  I paid less than that for my whole car, and it is a real XS VIN RT/SE driver condition car that I bought about a year ago.  I'm just happy that its the Chargers turn to get some much needed steel body parts and not the Challenger or 'Cuda.  As I stated in my original post, I won't be buying these parts, as I have allready spent the time and effort to repair my cars quarters with the panels that are currently available (most of the work was around the rear window as usual), but I would jump all over a steel reproduction '69-'70 tailight panel as mine needs some repair work, and I'm not looking forward to that! 

[mikepmcs]

Ok, we are going to have to see pictures of your car now.  We like the pictures.


v/r
Mike

[Shakey]

And they are made in the US which as we all know is getting more rare for anything these days!

Why does it matter where they are made?  Maybe the reason the price is so high is because they are made in USA?   

I guess it don't really matter as neither one of us need these quarter panels.

So, now that that is out of the way, post some pics of your car and tell us about your project!   

[daytonalo]

Very rarely does  after market sheetmetal ever , ever fit correctly . I would bet there will be issues !!!!!!!!!

[hemi68charger]

 

[Back N Black]

If you replace the driver side quarter,will you be losing the vin number on the trunk lip?

[69RTSEV88]

Back N Black, 
No, the trunk jamb which is where the VIN is stamped into is a seperate piece that the quarter panel welds to.  To the best of my knowledge, nobody reproduces the trunk jambs yet.

[bricklayer]

where is this vin# exactly in the trunk area thanks  tom

[694spdRT]

Somewhere in this general area or possibly anywhere along the lip there should be a stamped portion of the Vin# on 1969 and 1970 cars or a Sequence # off the fender tag for 1968. It is under the weatherstripping so you have to pull that back.

[hemi-hampton]

I thought the price was tio high when I heard $2,000? Now it's $2,500? When you think of the older reproduction sheet metal you can bet they will fit like Crap But I know from Experiance some of the newer Sheetmetal being made (key word being SOME not ALL) does indeed fit much better then the Garbage repopped only a few short years ago. I'm guessing these will fit good with little problems & it should considering the price which is rediculous, insane. NOS only gets big money because of Supply & Demand, Lots of demand & no Supply. Now that Reops are Available there is a non stop infinitive supply which should bring that price way way down. And they did not cost anywhere near a million to tool but I'd guess less then $100,000. LEON.

[Silver R/T]

for $2500 ill buy another Charger

[daytonalo]

If your qtrs are that rusty , the Vin # is the least of your problems , besides go buy a stamp set at harbor freight for 20 bucks !

[dkn1997]

If your qtrs are that rusty , the Vin # is the least of your problems , besides go buy a stamp set at harbor freight for 20 bucks !

Replace that 2nd letter with another X while your are at it. .  That's probably the only way I would get the money to spend 2500 on a quarter.

The only cars that those quarters make sense for is the high dollar numbers, aero, etc... type cars. 

For most of us, with chargers that started out their existance with small blocks and are drivers, our cars are usually worth about 20K if they are pretty good.  So I am gonna spend 1/4 the value of the car on just the quarters?

If you had any car but a mopar, 5 grand would probably buy every single piece of sheetmetal you would need for the whole car.

Here is something that will make you want to puke:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1962-1963-1964-1965-Chevy-II-Nova-Full-Quarter-Panel-LH_W0QQitemZ260078257808QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-1972-Ventrua-Quarter-Panel-Full-Type-RH-Side-New_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33644QQitemZ260086734173QQtcZphoto

[Back N Black]

If your qtrs are that rusty , the Vin # is the least of your problems , besides go buy a stamp set at harbor freight for 20 bucks !

Hey, i have seen people haul pieces of crap out of the bog and rebuild it because its a R/T.Personally i don't care about numbers.

[Mike DC]

 
Look, we didn't get these panels from anybody cheaper because THE CHEAPER PRODUCERS HAVE ALL BEEN CONSISTENTLY SAYING IT ISN''T COST-EFFECTIVE TO DO THE CHARGER PANELS! 

Even Goodmark assumes it would take many years to make their money back while pricing the E-body panels at $1500/set, and they've still being using cheaper steel than the original stuff.  And they're still years away from a new Charger quarter anyway, last I heard.
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So what have we lost here?

--  If you're not willing to pay $5000/set, then your situation hasn't changed one bit.  Go buy the crappy Goodmark quarter skins, just like you would if Hardcore Racing didn't exist.

--  If you ARE willing to pay the $5000, then you have an option now.

--  If Hardcore Racing can't sell enough panels at $5000/set to come out in the black ink, then they'll probably lower the price eventually.  Probably better to sell the panels at a loss rather than scrap the tooling they've already spent so much money on.

 

[daytonalo]

Having installed several sets of skins , I don't think they are that bad , sure they need a little tweaking , but thats life !!!!!!!

[Charger-Bodie]

Having installed several sets of skins , I don't think they are that bad , sure they need a little tweaking , but thats life !!!!!!!

i agree and thats why the full ones are gonna have to be real nice and they cant be priced so high that it cant be justified to use them

[rob9593]

A seller had left and right NOS '69 quarters on EBAY last fall, saying that they were most likely the last ones left in existance (probably pretty accurate), and the starting bid on the pair was $15,000!  Yes that's 15 thousand. 

I saw that action....it was a pair of quarters and he never sold them....ended the auction early because he was getting a lot of people telling him he was nuts......

I personally think $2500 is too high for them to sell these in any volume.......if you add up the costs to fit the current panel, repair the rear window channel tunnel AND get the lead out of the sail panel, you'll still come out ahead over this panel IMHO. Now, if it were $1500-$1800, I think you'd see a lot more people biting......perhaps they'd make more money that way?...no idea......at the current price, I doubt you'll see many guys using them on a 318 Charger, or for that matter anything less than a rare R/T

[scottmiller]

I just got a call from Hardcore this morning because I had inquired about the panels a month ago.

The "promotional" deal is $2298 and shipping is included.  In a month, they will be $2498.

It is too late now... but if it were a month earlier I would have done one on the passenger side because my car had a botched factory replacement done back in the 70's.  I went with the skins, but the additional repair on the topside/sail panel area with fabrication will probably bring the total costs into aligment with buying one of these full quarter panels.  The restoration shop I am using laid that out for me when I gave them the car.  They basically said with the fabrication labor involved, I would be better off spending a few hundred bucks extra bucks on a full quarter if they are available.  What they are doing now will work, but nothing beats a full, continuous piece of metal with no fabbed in patchwork.

It definately would not make sense for someone doing their own body work.  In my case it is the labor $$ that beats up the pocket book and would have if they were available.

Scott

[rob9593]

I just got a call from Hardcore this morning because I had inquired about the panels a month ago.

The "promotional" deal is $2298 and shipping is included.  In a month, they will be $2498.

It is too late now... but if it were a month earlier I would have done one on the passenger side because my car had a botched factory replacement done back in the 70's.  I went with the skins, but the additional repair on the topside/sail panel area with fabrication will probably bring the total costs into aligment with buying one of these full quarter panels.  The restoration shop I am using laid that out for me when I gave them the car.  They basically said with the fabrication labor involved, I would be better off spending a few hundred bucks extra bucks on a full quarter if they are available.  What they are doing now will work, but nothing beats a full, continuous piece of metal with no fabbed in patchwork.

It definately would not make sense for someone doing their own body work.  In my case it is the labor $$ that beats up the pocket book and would have if they were available.

Scott

that was the point of my post, but the information I got is different.....paying $150 or whatever the skin is, and paing to weld and align it, fix the window channel in the back (almost always rusted), and removing the lead in the sail panel comes out cheaper than this panel and the laour to weld it in...