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Can anyone source a master cylinder for 69 w/power disc brakes?

Started by Mfr426, March 13, 2007, 12:37:51 PM

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Mfr426

there you have it. I got my last one at Advance and they no longer carry that product. They said that the manufacturer discontinued that product. This is the one that has the lines on the passenger side of the cylinder. I can find others, but not ones that have the line inputs on the passenger side.

Any help  would be great. I went to Napa today and they have one (new) but it has left side (drivers) line inlets.

Thanks all!

histoy

I had one in the basement that might work.  It is a Bendix master with a casting number 2226821.   I bought it off of eBay a few months ago.  It's rusty on the outside, but clean in the fluid reservoir.   I pulled the plunger assembly and it land the bore looked fine.  Contact me off line it this one will help you.

resq302

I also just picked up one off of ebay for $20.  Just awaiting its arrival.  Its always good to have spare parts.! :yesnod:
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

Mfr426

Oh, I should clarify...I have one (bought rebuilt from Advance Auto a year or two ago). I want another one and now they dont sell them.

I was actually looking to see if anyone found an autoparts place that still offers one?


Thanks for the offer though History...

Just 6T9 CHGR

Chris' '69 Charger R/T



Mfr426

Yep, that's the same part number from Advance. The manufacturer no longer offers the product. I tried to order it several times both on the web and in the store. There are no future plans to carry it according to the folks I've talked with.

For those of you that have disc brake cars I'd grab one if you can. I'm having a hell of a time fiinding one anywhere. And, the ones that they say will work show the right picture (with the lines on the passenger side of the cylinder) but when they show up they are on the left.

:-[

mikepmcs

So it's still possible that other Advance auto parts stores might have some left over stock? 

If that is in fact the correct part number for the right side line out then I would be happy to check the Advance Auto Parts store up here for you as well as the local chain called VIP.

Who makes it Bendix? and please verify the part number as 101475. And any other things I should look for to verify it.  Maybe a picture could help too if you can take me one.

Let me know as I would be happy to purchase one for you and send it to you, should I find one.

I'm looking for a 1969 Dodge Charger with disc brakes correct, and they will want to know motor size etc...

I guess the part number alone though would be sufficient though.

v/r
Mike
 
Life isn't Father Knows Best anymore, it's a kick in the face on a saturday night with a steel toed grip kodiak work boot and a trip to the hospital all bloodied and bashed.....for reconstructive surgery. But, what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger, right?

Just 6T9 CHGR

I swear I must have gotten one of the last A1 Cardone rebuilds from them

The part # on the box is 10-1475

According to the date on the box its been on a shelf since '00

Chris' '69 Charger R/T


Mfr426

Chris's shot is my cylinder Mike. That's my P/N too on the bottom "2226821".

When they run the part they check the manufacturer for it, not their stock. They cant get it. They will say that they can but when they thorougly they say "oh, the manufacturer says it's now discontinued".

Great.........

Chris, obvioulsy you have upgraded your car to the power disc brakes (vs. the shot that is on your web site)?

mikepmcs

I'll try anyways for you just in case, you never know.(i'll check my local VIP Auto)  I live in Maine so there is a shot.  That is an entire master cylinder?  I feel stupid but it looks awful small to me.  I'm use to seeing the ones with the cap on top etc....

Forgive my ignorance.

v/r
Mike
Life isn't Father Knows Best anymore, it's a kick in the face on a saturday night with a steel toed grip kodiak work boot and a trip to the hospital all bloodied and bashed.....for reconstructive surgery. But, what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger, right?

Mfr426

Not at all Mike. Yep, that's the master cylinder. Remember that is bolts to the booster which makes it look a heck of a lot bigger. Thanks for the help.

Check it out...this was before the major leak...


Just 6T9 CHGR

Quote from: Mfr426 on March 15, 2007, 02:19:27 PM


Chris, obvioulsy you have upgraded your car to the power disc brakes (vs. the shot that is on your web site)?

Not yet Mike....will be doing it soon once it warms up a bit more here ;)
Heres my setup waiting to go in.....

PS---the engine compt is looking great! :cheers:
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


Mfr426

Hey thanks Chris! That's an old shot too! Wait till I have a 512ci stroker stuffed in there (sorry purists out there).

Parts look great. How about shipping that MC southwest to good ol' PA?

:icon_smile_big:

gtx6970

I got one about a year ago, I waited almost 3 years to get it., .plus I have my original - and no it's not for sale

My brother runs a local auto parts store near me, He has a list of hot parts he runs for me about once a week, this is one of them. He's yet to come up with another one

Mfr426

Up until about the last year Advance did sell them. That's where I got mine. I'm out today on some "appointments" and I'm determined to find one.

mikepmcs

Ok, i'm about to leave the house to do some stuff and check some parts stores and I just want to make sure the first picture, the one with the part number and bendix written on it is the one you want.

The pictures further down look different to me then the one Chris is holding in the first picture.

v/r
Mike
Life isn't Father Knows Best anymore, it's a kick in the face on a saturday night with a steel toed grip kodiak work boot and a trip to the hospital all bloodied and bashed.....for reconstructive surgery. But, what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger, right?

Mfr426

Yep, these are all the same cylinder (just shown upside down in Chris's shot).

:- )

mikepmcs

Yeah I finally pulled my head out of my rear and realized that.  I had to laugh at myself after I was driving to the store when that hit me like a freight train. :icon_smile_big:

Anyways, no luck at either store.  Advance guy is a mopar guy he tried everything, even checked every store in the state for me. 

He gave me a number to a local mopar guy who he claims can get anything, I might give him a call.

The only useful info he gave me was he says year one will redo one to factory specs.  But i realize you are looking for a spare.

He also gave me another bendix number he said it crossed to FWIW.   R12708

Sorry, the search continues.

v/r
Mike
Life isn't Father Knows Best anymore, it's a kick in the face on a saturday night with a steel toed grip kodiak work boot and a trip to the hospital all bloodied and bashed.....for reconstructive surgery. But, what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger, right?

Mfr426

Thanks for the work Mike. I ended up getting one today BUT it is a universal one that has "ears" on both sides of the unit. The ones on the left were cast but never threaded but are obvious. I did NOT want this type but I'm sort of stuck now. I have one more on order at National of all places. The guy will have it on Monday and if it's a single side (not universal) I will buy that one. I'm sort of stuck with the other one then (with the ears on the left side).

My fingers are crossed for the right one on Monday. This is getting quite ridiculous (and expensive).

Just 6T9 CHGR

Mike, possible to take the guts out & swap housings?

Refresh my memory as to what was wrong with your orig one?
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


Mfr426

Chris, the cylinder was leaking at the back where it mounted to the booster. Can you just pop out those cylinders and do you need to hone the cylinder of the older one that you want to keep????? I'd be afraid that the leak was cylinder related?

That's not a bad idea Chris. Now you've got me thinking about it...

Just 6T9 CHGR

Mike, I think to take it apart all you have to do is remove the piston retaining bolt & pull the piston & seals straight back...

Look in your FSM...starting on page 5-45...it gives you rebuilding instructions
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


Mfr426

This IS good news. I have not disassembled a MC in  years. So that bolt holds the piston from popping out. Sounds like a good project for 6AM tomorrow when the wife and baby are sound asleep.

Great idea Chris! I'll read the FSM and post my findings.

Mfr426

Well I disassembled the new reman'd one and my original one this AM (after snow blowing another 5" of snow). I see why the original one was leaking. The bore has a fairly deep corrosion area in it and I'm sure that was leading to the leak. I would love to be able to hone that or sleeve that and put in an oversized piston kit. I doubt I'll be able to do that though.

Next I pulled apart the "New Reman'd" unit. What a mess and this one is going back! The inside was loaded with rust. If I put that on my car I would have one hell of a mess in my brake system. Additionally, the two pistons were both rusted to the point of not being usable (in my opinion). The guy at NAPA is going to hate me when I return this but honestly, it's not safe.

Chris, after sitting for so long you might want to slide out your pistons and look to see they are rusted. I figure after sitting on the self for so long this happened.

At this point I am thinking about just adjusting the brake lines to mount on the left. I will then source a brand new MC and may even look for a better alternative. These stock units hae my quite nervous now...