26" 054 Radiators?

[694spdRT]

There was a discussion on another post about 054 radiators.

What makes it different than the 055 radiator? Is it the number of cores only? My '69 440 4 speed has an 054 that has been in the car since at least the early 1970's. The buildsheet calls for an 055 but, I also have the Track Pak option. There is some question whether the max cool option was ever part of the track pak option. 

So is there any chance a 440 4 speed car could have came from the factory with an 054, or was it likely changed at some point early in life?

Thanks

[Chryco Psycho]

do both the 54 & 55 have auto trans coolers in them ?

[694spdRT]

I don't know about the 055 but, the 054 in my car has the plugs where the cooling lines would normally hook up with an automatic.

[Charger4404spd]

Good question, I too have the 054 radiator and it has provisions for automatic cooling lines.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Both the 054 & 055 have trans cooler provisions.

The general rule of thumb is the 054 was gotten with either A/C (which included the Max cool option) or with the Super Track Pack option (4.10 Dana rear...which also included the Max Cool option)



PS----anyone have an extra 054 laying around?     

[Charger4404spd]

Both the 054 & 055 have trans cooler provisions.

The general rule of thumb is the 054 was gotten with either A/C (which included the Max cool option) or with the Super Track Pack option (4.10 Dana rear...which also included the Max Cool option)



PS----anyone have an extra 054 laying around?   

SO Chris, with my TrackPack option and a 4 speed, NO a/c, it should be a 055?

[694spdRT]

Both the 054 & 055 have trans cooler provisions.

The general rule of thumb is the 054 was gotten with either A/C (which included the Max cool option) or with the Super Track Pack option (4.10 Dana rear...which also included the Max Cool option)



PS----anyone have an extra 054 laying around?     

SO Chris, with my TrackPack option and a 4 speed, NO a/c, it should be a 055?

That is what the last thread came up with. I just find it hard to believe mine is not original.....and now your track pak has it as well.  Maybe the line workers didn't always care. I would gladly send them a thank you if it was a mistake.   

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Strange very strange.   I just looked at my build sheet and it has "55" under the RAD box for the 055 radiator.
My auto R/T was originally an A/C car but it came with a 3.23 open 8 3/4" rear....

Just asked another friend.......he said his 69 Coronet R/T 'vert 440 4 speed track pack is coded 055.....my friends Daytona 440 4 speed track pack is coded 055 as well.
Another friends 69 Hemi Charger with Auto is coded 054...that car has the high perf axel package (3.55 8 /34" rear)
I have a build sheet for another 440/auto Daytona with the perf axle package 3.55 8 3/4 and its coded 054......

I guess this shoots the "general rule" to hell now...

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

OK..a new light is shed.....

The 054 rad has to do with the Axel package as well as the engine/trans combo.

The reason why the 055 rad is used with the 3.54 Dana 4 gear cars is because that was the STANDARD Axel package with the 4 speed.  
Same for my auto car with the STANDARD 3.23 axle

If an Axel package was special ordered (IE the High Perf Package with an auto car (3.55 8 3/4")) then the 054 rad was issued...this applies to the Super Track Pack which was optional with 4 speeds or auto's (4.10 Dana)

[694spdRT]

Makes sense Chris thanks for checking it out.

My buildsheet is coded 055 as well....I am curious as to why the 054 is popping up in track pak cars. I find it hard to believe mine was changed as the owner before me had it since the early 70's and was not into "numbers".  I honestly think mine was a factory goof but, there is no way to prove it. 

[Charger4404spd]

Your probably right 69, the line guy grabbed the wrong one.

Checked my build sheet, its coded for #055 also.

[Ghoste]

Just as an aside from someone who works in an auto assembly plant, even today with computerized inventory tracking and just in time delivery and so on, it is still an amazing accomplishment for so many parts to come together perfectly.  If the stock guys brought the wrong rads, or the rad drop guys read the build sheet wrong, or there was a temporary stock shortage on the rad your car was supposed to get, then you get what fits and works.  If it's inadequate, the dealer will get it in warranty or an inspection guy will make a note to have it pulled before it leaves the plant.  But, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER would you hold the line up to wait for the correct rad.

Were both of your cars built at the same plant?

[694spdRT]

Just as an aside from someone who works in an auto assembly plant, even today with computerized inventory tracking and just in time delivery and so on, it is still an amazing accomplishment for so many parts to come together perfectly.   If the stock guys brought the wrong rads, or the rad drop guys read the build sheet wrong, or there was a temporary stock shortage on the rad your car was supposed to get, then you get what fits and works.   If it's inadequate, the dealer will get it in warranty or an inspection guy will make a note to have it pulled before it leaves the plant.   But, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER would you hold the line up to wait for the correct rad.

Were both of your cars built at the same plant?

Mine was built at St. Louis. It was also built the last week of production(July 8th) so parts may have been running low. 

[69hemi]

Okay, so mine is a Hemi, Max Cool, 4-Speed, Super Track-Pak 4.10 Dana car and the buildsheet calls for an 054 and mine is.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Okay, so mine is a Hemi, Max Cool, 4-Speed, Super Track-Pak 4.10 Dana car and the buildsheet calls for an 054 and mine is.

This falls within the parameters.......Super Track Pack....optional rear end package

[Charger4404spd]

Mine was built in Hamtrack(sp)  on 11-11-68
Dangit I was wrong, my radiator is a 957. I guess Chris and I both need an 054.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Mine was built in Hamtrack(sp) on 11-11-68
Dangit I was wrong, my radiator is a 957. I guess Chris and I both need an 054.

Nope.......055

[Charger4404spd]

Ooops, yes 055 !

[Blown70]

Actually yours came out of a big ole chrysler boat.  I COULD not keep that da&n thing cool until I finally switched the fan to the aftermarket one.

I had that one recored with 4 rows of cores not three.... Then she stayed cool.  I will look around the corner of the shed where she used to sleep and see if I have any thing else around.

Tom

[Charger4404spd]

Ok thanks Tom.

[694spdRT]

OK..a new light is shed.....

The 054 rad has to do with the Axel package as well as the engine/trans combo.

The reason why the 055 rad is used with the 3.54 Dana 4 gear cars is because that was the STANDARD Axel package with the 4 speed.  
Same for my auto car with the STANDARD 3.23 axle

If an Axel package was special ordered (IE the High Perf Package with an auto car (3.55 8 3/4")) then the 054 rad was issued...this applies to the Super Track Pack which was optional with 4 speeds or auto's (4.10 Dana)

I was reading this again and a 440 automatic with optional 3.55 gears would get a 054 when a 440 4 speed with 3.54's would get a 055. This must have something to do with the radiator's capacity to dissipate the heat from the tranny as well on the automatic equipped cars. Otherwise, if it were strictly a result of gear ratio(aka RPM's) the 3.54 Dana cars would have needed the cooling capacity as well. Interesting...

[y3chargerrt]

My 440 a/c 69 R/T is also a 55 radiator car.

[69fuchs]

just look in galens book.   054 is for max cool-   ie   4 speed 440, or any axle package bb even a 383 automatic charger with 355 gear.   440 Air cars will have the 055 radiator.   That does not mean some cars could not have come with the wrong radiator.   I know of an original 69 1/2 bee with a 055- the car is untouched.   Also the 055 bottom tank is thinner than the 054 iirc.   I also know of a 69 runner 383 4 speed 355 gear with a 054, another untouched car.

[694spdRT]

Do you have one of Galen's older books? Mine book says max cool with the A33 track pak option but, it was supposedly changed in his newer edition.

[Ghoste]

I have a July 2001 edition and it shows max cooling beginning with A31 (3:91).  That should be his newest since I just bought it from him a month ago.