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2 core or 3 core radiator for a 440?

Started by Just 6T9 CHGR, February 21, 2007, 06:54:14 PM

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Just 6T9 CHGR

Anyone run the original 2 core 26" "055" radiator in their B Bodies with a 440?

Any cooling issues? I have a 3 core Modine right now but will be getting a 2 core 055 shortly......

Can an 055 be made into a 3 core anyway?
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


Charger-Bodie

Quote from: Just 6T9_CHGR.... on February 21, 2007, 06:54:14 PM
Anyone run the original 2 core 26" "055" radiator in their B Bodies with a 440?

Any cooling issues? I have a 3 core Modine right now but will be getting a 2 core 055 shortly......

Can an 055 be made into a 3 core anyway?
i had a 3 row core installed in my 68 440 radiator {the number slips my mind right this second} and i had to get the big lower tank to make it work but it looks factory and its not a aftermarket one
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

tan top

Chris  , i have  the original 055  radiator  & 180 degree thermostat ,  never goes above 180  no matter what conditions . with or with out a fan shroud .
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Quote from: tan top on February 21, 2007, 07:13:17 PM
Chris  , i have a the original 055  radiator  & 180 degree thermostat ,  never goes above 180  no matter what conditions . with or with out a fan shroud .

the only reason i decided to go with the 3 row is that someday id like to have a hemi and this way its already a 3 row plus it needed to be recored anyway
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

Just 6T9 CHGR

Thanks guys.   I almost had the crazy idea of just taking the "055" top tank & having the shop graft it onto the Modine core....

I swore I would never change out this radiator for a "numbers" one but I got a pretty good deal on it and by the pics it looks like all it would need is a boiling out & a coat of paint to drop in & use as is....
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


tan top

Quote from: Just 6T9_CHGR.... on February 21, 2007, 07:23:31 PM
Thanks guys.   I almost had the crazy idea of just taking the "055" top tank & having the shop graft it onto the Modine core....

I swore I would never change out this radiator for a "numbers" one but I got a pretty good deal on it and by the pics it looks like all it would need is a boiling out & a coat of paint to drop in & use as is....

  thats sounds a good plan though , having a top tank fitted .... :yesnod: 




     
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resq302

Chris,

Sounds like you are reverting your car back to stock. :nana:
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

Just 6T9 CHGR

Quote from: resq302 on February 21, 2007, 08:42:16 PM
Chris,

Sounds like you are reverting your car back to stock. :nana:

Yep...stock "looking"........ as was the plan from 1997 or so
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


mikesbbody

i had my 26 factory radiator changed from 2-3 core and its much better now the temp barely moves, however i dont know the numbers i dont know if its a 055 or not

jerry

like said above if you want 3 core and have a 055 just have the 055 tank put on new 3 core.bottoms of 055 and 054 have differences.i have run the 055 on a 69 b-body with a hemi with no prob.my 440-6bbl cars have the 054 and they are much heavier.

bill440rt

Chris,
Mine is the same. 26" Chrysler rad with a 3-row core. Cools very nicely. You'll like it.
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

hemi68charger

There's no reason you can't utilize your original tanks and side brackets on your 055 and use a 3-core unit....... Any radiator shop worth anything should be able to do it....  But, if you're reluctant, a 2-core should still cool you off rather nicely taking into consideration everything else is fine.. With shroud and clutch-fan, you should be ok..........

Troy
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
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firefighter3931

I would stick with a 3 core rad...change the tank if you have to but keep the 3 cores. Fwiw, guys who run a looser stall with the built in rad cooler will often experience elevated engine temps. Using a stand alone trans cooler will keep both the engine and transmission running cooler.  ;)

Case in point ; When R2 swapped in an automatic for his 4 spd i remember having this conversation. The original 4spd rad didn't have an auto trans cooler so i suggested a stand alone B&M stacked plate "super cooler" which he plumbed directly to the trans. The 600hp stroker runs all day long at 170-180* with the factory rad.  :thumbs:


Chris, the reason i'm bringing this up is because i remember awhile back that your's was running hot. Going to a 2 core with the internal trans cooler might be pushing it. Just food for thought.  ;)



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

Just 6T9 CHGR

Thanks all.  I was thinking about the trans issue as well but I do have an external trans cooler hooked up in series with the one in the tank.....

Like I said before I might even go to have the shop graft the top "055" tank onto my Modine core & lower tank.....buuuut....the Modine utilizes the 70 & up style 4 bolt type shroud where as the '69 & older uses the 5 studded shroud (still avail new from Mopar)

I might bite the bullet & recore the "055" to a 3 core.....anyone need a Modine 3 core?   Might be for sale soon ;)
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


THE CHARGER PUNK

my dad made an 055 into a 4 core it has the stock cap to with part #'s on top 2 :yesnod:

chargerbr549

What did the 055 radiator have for a stock core, 2,3 or 4 row? My 69 RT SE 440 with AC has an 055 with a  4 row core in it, that is the way that I bought it 22 years ago and I had it recored several years ago and that's what we put back in it.  Right now I am helping a friend of mine with his  69 RT SE 440 with AC and has an 055 radiator also but his has only a 2 core in it, so which is right or are they both right? If it helps my car originally  came from the sunny Pomona CA. area.

Kevin

Just 6T9 CHGR

The stock/original core size was a 2 row/core
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


bull

Quote from: Just 6T9_CHGR.... on February 21, 2007, 06:54:14 PM
Can an 055 be made into a 3 core anyway?

Yes. Most legit radiator places can retain the top, bottom and sides and replace the middle with a new 3-core. I was quoted $300 on my 22" so yours might be more.

gtx6970

IMO - you can't have to much cooling ability. If it runs too cool with it, put a hotter thermostat in it .

Putting a 3 row core in the 055  rad is a piece of cake. I've done 2 so far with no problems what so ever and the Rad  shop that did it didn't have to change anything else

Just 6T9 CHGR

Thanks for all the input guys...I should be getting the rad soon.    it looks pretty good the way it is.....maybe a bit of Eastwood rad black and she'll be good to go :thumbs:
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


resq302

Can't hurt to have it flow tested and pressure tested prior to painting and installing it. :yesnod:
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

Just 6T9 CHGR

Quote from: resq302 on February 25, 2007, 08:06:48 PM
Can't hurt to have it flow tested and pressure tested prior to painting and installing it. :yesnod:
:iagree:  will do
Chris' '69 Charger R/T