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Good article on daytonas in June 2007 Mopar Action

Started by johntpr, February 16, 2007, 04:13:29 PM

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tan top

good pictures :yesnod:    should be getting my copy soon then   ;D            they say 70 coronet fenders on a daytona :image_294343: ???
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johntpr

I already pointed out to them that error about Daytona fenders being in no way related to Coronets.  They mixed  up Daytonas and Superbirds.  The Orange Daytona was a 999 paint code car...Omaha Orange..apparently Ditzler paint code DRA60436 according to the article.

daytonalo

I thought we discussed before that no daytona's were painted that color ?

hemi68charger

Excellent article John, thanks for the posting....... I have those pictures in my Resto. album now....  :icon_smile_big:

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tan top

Quote from: johntpr on February 16, 2007, 05:04:34 PM
I already pointed out to them that error about Daytona fenders being in no way related to Coronets.  They mixed  up Daytonas and Superbirds.  The Orange Daytona was a 999 paint code car...Omaha Orange..apparently Ditzler paint code DRA60436 according to the article.
 

Quote from: daytonalo on February 16, 2007, 05:16:09 PM
I thought we discussed before that no daytona's were painted that color ?

                    never seen a 999  paint code on a  daytona  before    .....  :shruggy:  it must be  special order Omaha orange  . can't be 68 Bengal orange.   :confused: .................... :popcrn:
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The 999 code car was in one of those rare finds type of article.If I remenber right husband buys daytona instead of fridge,later gets divorced wife keeps car to p-off ex.

Ghoste


69_500

good looking article. That isn't the car that he had on display in Vegas last year is it?

hemigeno

That is one very rare Daytona...

Did anyone notice from looking at the fender tag that the build date (520) seems way off for what a 417455 VIN number should be?  All the other VINs anywhere close to that one all have 6/9, 6/10 or higher build dates.  In fact, when I first saw the tag in that link I thought it was not right.  Had to dig up my copies of the Shipping List, plus check another spreadsheet to confirm that it is correct.  Odd, but correct.

There are some very neat details about that car, and I hope the article points those out as well.  Tim has a great treasure with that one, and Roger Gibson did a fine job restoring it.  I hope mine looks that good when it's done.  Thanks for the link John!

tan top

Quote from: hemigeno on February 17, 2007, 09:13:11 PM
Did anyone notice from looking at the fender tag that the build date (520) seems way off for what a 417455 VIN number should be?  All the other VINs anywhere close to that one all have 6/9, 6/10 or higher build dates.  In fact, when I first saw the tag in that link I thought it was not right.  Had to dig up my copies of the Shipping List, plus check another spreadsheet to confirm that it is correct.  Odd, but correct.


   

             ( hemigeno )   you mentioned   the  build date to the vin is   off  , do you think it might be  because of  999 paint code   :scratchchin:
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hemigeno

Quote from: tan top on February 17, 2007, 09:20:48 PM

             ( hemigeno )   you mentioned   the  build date to the vin is   off  , do you think it might be  because of  999 paint code   :scratchchin:

I haven't done as much research on the Factory's procedures when it comes to the assignment of VIN numbers as David Patik has.  However, I agree there's a real possibility that the oddball paint played a role in that disjointed build-date/VIN. 

Lenox Dodge (the dealer that ordered this car) is listed as receiving four Daytonas.  The S.O. number of three of those cars are sequential, with this car being in the middle of those three.  Oddly enough, the next S.O. car (presumably the next car that Lenox Dodge ordered) ended up being the very last Daytona ever produced, 434780 - with a build date of 6/26.  Offhand, I don't know if anyone knows the whereabouts of 434780, but it might be an oddball car too.

Since this 999 painted car was obviously special-ordered, there is a very good chance that they had to round up the paint.  The procurement of the special paint might not have happened until the plant actually entered the car into the production sequence, so they may have had to guess about how long it would take to get the 999 paint there and push the VIN sequence out a ways.  It would be interesting to know about some of the date codes on that car - which would give some clues about its actual build date.

If I remember, I'll bounce David Patik about this sometime.  I think he cringes when he gets an email from me, since it's always something weird...


tan top

:popcrn:  intersting stuff (hemigeno)   :yesnod:   may be 434780  is in a private collection somewere  :-\ because of being the last one :scratchchin:
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69_500

I did some digging for any information on the last Daytona, but came up blank Gene. I don't have any other information on it. Otherwise I'd gladly share it with ya.

Does anyone know the actual paint mixture for the 999 paint code? Or even for R4 red for that matter? Trying to do an exact color match to the 999 paint code, and R4 red. But can't find the color mixture percentages listed anywhere.

hemigeno

All I've ever seen is a Ditzler code for R4 or the 999 paint.  Is that what you're looking for?

69_500

Not exactly. I'm looking more for the color percentages of Red, Cyan, Blue, Green, Yellow and such to make those colors. to do a perfect color match to the origionals on the computer.

tan top

yeah i know what you mean  that actual paint formulation , you read on the micro fisch when mixing the  tinter's  be weight..   find the paint manufacturer you need on the net , some times you have to register with them then , you can search their sight for the paint formula . another option would be  phone that particular paint company technical help  & they will either tell you over the phone or fax it to you . a local paint suppliers & paint shop would be able to do the same if they are using the particular brand you want . as each different manufacturer has their own mix to achieve that color ,
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69_500

Thanks for the input. You got it right, as in what I'm looking for. I want to know the exact color mixture needed to make those colors. I'm reseting the white balance on everything I have on my computer, so I'm wondering how close the colors on my photo's are to the real colors.

tan top

Quote from: 69_500 on February 18, 2007, 04:07:50 PM
Thanks for the input. You got it right, as in what I'm looking for. I want to know the exact color mixture needed to make those colors. I'm reseting the white balance on everything I have on my computer, so I'm wondering how close the colors on my photo's are to the real colors.
   

   cleaver stuff  ( 69_500) :yesnod:   
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69_500

Everytime I shoot a photo of a car at a show, I try to remember to set the white balance to whatever the lighting source is. I was just wondering how true to form that would be. Wanted to take a sample of paint from a survivor car that is R4 red, and compare its color make up from the photo, to that of the actual source color mixture.

tan top

thats true  :yesnod:,, take a photo of a car at a show & when you see it in print it can be different , also the light conditions  don,t help. i could of got you any paint formula you needed a while ago as i was  the main painter at a large crash repair shop for 16 years ,  ::) i mixed all paint colors on site . you be surprised what color mixing basics  are in a formula .   also when photos are processed the inks sometimes can not match the color exactly
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Winga

Quote from: tan top on February 16, 2007, 05:45:35 PM
Quote from: johntpr on February 16, 2007, 05:04:34 PM
I already pointed out to them that error about Daytona fenders being in no way related to Coronets.  They mixed  up Daytonas and Superbirds.  The Orange Daytona was a 999 paint code car...Omaha Orange..apparently Ditzler paint code DRA60436 according to the article.
 

Quote from: daytonalo on February 16, 2007, 05:16:09 PM
I thought we discussed before that no daytona's were painted that color ?

                    never seen a 999  paint code on a  daytona  before    .....  :shruggy:  it must be  special order Omaha orange  . can't be 68 Bengal orange.   :confused: .................... :popcrn:
Roger (Gibson) said "quote, this car's only claim to fame is, .............that it's the only one painted competition orange..........un quote"

69_500

I'm wondering how close in color is that 999 for the Daytona to the 999 HEMI 500 that was built? anyone know if its the same color/shade?

I use a light meter, and a white balance sheet on most of my photo's that I take for specific reasons at car shows. For other cars than wing cars I tend to just shoot.

tan top

Quote from: Winga on February 19, 2007, 05:25:35 PM
              Roger (Gibson) said "quote, this car's only claim to fame is, .............that it's the only one painted competition orange..........un quote"
 

     intresting info (winga)  :yesnod:    competition orange sounds more like a old AMC ...or ... chebby color, ford do that color i believe but it is for new  model's .    :confused:   it looks more  like Vitamin C  orange to me now :-\
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