daytona SE on ebay

[tan top]

could be the core support has been changed because of a wreck , replaced it with one from  a junk yard  then stamped

  the letter B.. they make reference to also on moparts ..  Hmm.. the letter B on my core support ,does not look like that either

[Aero426]

could be the core support has been changed because of a wreck , replaced it with one from  a junk yard  then stamped

That is certainly possible.  There's no telling when it was done.    Could still be a legit car, but It certainly raises questions being that it looks so obvious.

Are the trunk lip numbers going to be there, or does the rear window plug cover them?

[tan top]

still be there    the work never went down that far .  all that area would of got was may be a extra coat of primer as well as the top coat (color)

[hemigeno]

Are the trunk lip numbers going to be there, or does the rear window plug cover them?

The trunk lip numbers should still be visible.  I know they are on my car, but stranger things have happened.  If they stamped the trunk lip WAY up near the corner, it's possible it got covered up.  They left the majority of that lip in place, so they'd have had to hit just the right/wrong spot to lose that info.  I'd be REAL skeptical of the car if it was missing that number.

Like you said, I think the car is probably legit, but that yoke stamping just flat doesn't look right.  The Moparts guys seem to think that the font matches up perfectly to what they have seen in/on 1970-71 cars - but that doesn't jive with what I've seen for 1969 anyway.  I'm certainly no expert though.

Here's a wild-guess idea...

The car is in a wreck, and the yoke needs to be replaced.  The owner JUST HAPPENS to find a '70 B-body made at the Hamtramck facility sitting in a junkyard , that has his exact VIN sequence, all except for the second-to-last digit.  He buys the yoke, and changes the "0" denoting 1970 to a "9", and modifies whatever the second-to-last digit of the VIN to now read a "4".  Voila, a numbers-matching yoke.

Yeah, yeah... I know, that's far-fetched, but it would explain why the font difference and why those two numbers look like they were altered.  In all honesty, those pictures are about the only thing on the car that really looks/smells really fishy to me - although the point that Doug makes about the mileage does raise some issues with the seller's credibility.  He'd have been better off leaving that yoke picture out.

[69_500]

It is also possible that the current owner puchased the car a few years ago, under the impression that it was a 20K mile car. And he has put a few miles on it, now thinking its 23K. I remember back in the early 80's almost every Daytona my dad looked at was 80K+ if not already over 100K miles. Not sure how so many of the Daytona's for sale now are supposedly all 30K or less. Another thing that I remember as a little one, is how many of the wing cars were not #'s matching in the early 80's. But I don't recall the last Daytona I've seen for sale, or at a show that isn't being touted as #'s matching.

[Aero426]

I tend to think the car is legit with a replaced rad support.   I'd still want to take a close look at that car, especially the trunk numbers. 

Paperwork in the file takes it back to June 1987 in the Sacramento Area.   Owner states the car was originally delivered in Vegas and has been out west the whole time.   Geno, does that dealer in Vegas story make sense?

In '87 the car was R4 with a white interior, but at that time came with a Govier decode showing the Y2 and CRX interior.  Mileage was reported at 109,000 at that time.    The car was advertised for sale shortly thereafter at $15,000.

[hemigeno]

Doug, the 'Vegas dealer is at least possible, but that's not what the records show.  The Shipping List shows Stanley Dodge in National City CA as the dealer who originally received the car.  That does not mean it wasn't swapped between dealerships and ended up selling from somewhere else.  National City is in the San Diego area, which isn't exactly close to Vegas.

I think the car was originally intended for shipment to CA, since it has N97 on the B-cast sheet.  Hard to say if it did sell (new) in Vegas or not, but my guess is probably not.

Based on what you're saying, the guy is definitely mistaken about the mileage, although those seat covers don't look to me like they have 123k miles of wear on them.     'Course he never said that it was the original interior though.  I just ove the look of those leather seats.

[tan top]

Here's a wild-guess idea...

The car is in a wreck, and the yoke needs to be replaced.  The owner JUST HAPPENS to find a '70 B-body made at the Hamtramck facility sitting in a junkyard , that has his exact VIN sequence, all except for the second-to-last digit.  He buys the yoke, and changes the "0" denoting 1970 to a "9", and modifies whatever the second-to-last digit of the VIN to now read a "4".  Voila, a numbers-matching yoke.

 
                    Geno  i had thought something ....like that also     the guy went looking for the closest Vin# he could find , witch only required a couple  digit re- stamps . ...i wonder 

[Aero426]

Doug, the 'Vegas dealer is at least possible, but that's not what the records show.  The Shipping List shows Stanley Dodge in National City CA as the dealer who originally received the car.  That does not mean it wasn't swapped between dealerships and ended up selling from somewhere else.  National City is in the San Diego area, which isn't exactly close to Vegas.

I think the car was originally intended for shipment to CA, since it has N97 on the B-cast sheet.  Hard to say if it did sell (new) in Vegas or not, but my guess is probably not.

Based on what you're saying, the guy is definitely mistaken about the mileage, although those seat covers don't look to me like they have 123k miles of wear on them.     'Course he never said that it was the original interior though.  I just ove the look of those leather seats.

They are probably not the original seat covers.  In '87, the owner stated it had white buckets installed, but was an original CRX leather car.   He also mentioned that the car had been owned in the San Diego area at one time.

Is the N97 why it has the dual snokel air cleaner?

[tan top]

yes N97 package = noise reduction package .   twin snorkel silenced air cleaner /  exhausts with turn downs , instead of tips .

  i seem to remember it might have included , exhaust resonators ,  &  leaner carburettor settings  plus  distributor modifications ( mechanical / vacuum - spark timing  )  i think  form memory .... for California cars only . might be thinking of something else though