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O.K. Fellas,.. Take it away!...

Started by Brock Samson, February 06, 2007, 07:25:53 PM

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Brock Samson



  Well girls, the secret is finally out. Just a few whiffs of a chemical found in male sweat is enough to raise levels of the stress hormone cortisol in heterosexual women, according to a new study by University of California, Berkeley, scientists.

bull

Quote from: Brock Samson on February 06, 2007, 07:25:53 PM


  Well girls, the secret is finally out. Just a few whiffs of a chemical found in male sweat is enough to raise levels of the stress hormone cortisol in heterosexual women, according to a new study by University of California, Berkeley, scientists.

So lesbians are ok with it? ???

Chris G.

I sure do miss the days when old Bronzy was starting all the interesting topics. Ahhh...the good old days... :rotz:


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is_it_EVER_done?

Brock: Do you have a link to the citation or abstract? I have been studying/experimenting with endrocological responses to vomeropherins for several years, and usually am very up to date on current research, published results, etc., plus I know most of the researchers, but even a search of current databases didn't turn up anything on this. Where did you see it? ... Thanks.

Shakey

Are we talking about Spanish Fly or that cologne from the '70's called Eros?   :shruggy:

Shakey

Quote from: is_it_EVER_done? on February 06, 2007, 08:18:45 PM
Brock: Do you have a link to the citation or abstract? I have been studying/experimenting with endrocological responses to vomeropherins for several years, and usually am very up to date on current research, published results, etc., plus I know most of the researchers, but even a search of current databases didn't turn up anything on this. Where did you see it? ... Thanks.

I think he saw it in the movie "Porkys" from the mid '80's.  Remember when the gym teacher got the chick up into the mens locker room and she smelled the socks - she went wild!   :yesnod:

69bronzeT5

Quote from: Chris G. on February 06, 2007, 07:28:00 PM
I sure do miss the days when old Bronzy was starting all the interesting topics. Ahhh...the good old days... :rotz:


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Quote from: Shakey on February 06, 2007, 08:21:31 PM
Quote from: is_it_EVER_done? on February 06, 2007, 08:18:45 PM
Brock: Do you have a link to the citation or abstract? I have been studying/experimenting with endrocological responses to vomeropherins for several years, and usually am very up to date on current research, published results, etc., plus I know most of the researchers, but even a search of current databases didn't turn up anything on this. Where did you see it? ... Thanks.

I think he saw it in the movie "Porkys" from the mid '80's.  Remember when the gym teacher got the chick up into the mens locker room and she smelled the socks - she went wild!   :yesnod:
:laugh: i  remember that bit , didn't she Howl like i wolf or something ..   :yesnod:   
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So that means only sweat around ugly chics ?  :icon_smile_big:  That does explain why my wife is always stressed out.  :icon_smile_tongue:
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red72chrgr

Quote from: Brock Samson on February 06, 2007, 07:25:53 PM


Well girls, the secret is finally out. Just a few whiffs of a chemical found in male sweat is enough to raise levels of the stress hormone cortisol in heterosexual women, according to a new study by University of California, Berkeley, scientists.
So I guess since it stresses them out, we better stay away?  Dang, what a pity.
Nothing personal, just business

Brock Samson

http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2007/02/06_sweat.shtml


   "Male sweat boosts women's hormone levels

By Robert Sanders, Media Relations | 06 February 2007

BERKELEY – Just a few whiffs of a chemical found in male sweat is enough to raise levels of the stress hormone cortisol in heterosexual women, according to a new study by University of California, Berkeley, scientists.

The study, reported this week in The Journal of Neuroscience, provides the first direct evidence that humans, like rats, moths and butterflies, secrete a scent that affects the physiology of the opposite sex.

"This is the first time anyone has demonstrated that a change in women's hormonal levels is induced by sniffing an identified compound of male sweat," as opposed to applying a chemical to the upper lip, said study leader Claire Wyart, a post-doctoral fellow at UC Berkeley.

The team's work was inspired by previous studies by Wyart's colleague Noam Sobel, associate professor of psychology at UC Berkeley and director of the Berkeley Olfactory Research Program. He found that the chemical androstadienone - a compound found in male sweat and an additive in perfumes and colognes - changed mood, sexual arousal, physiological arousal and brain activation in women.

Yet, contrary to perfume company advertisements, there is no hard evidence that humans respond to the smell of androstadienone or any other chemical in a subliminal or instinctual way similar to the way many mammals and even insects respond to pheromones, Wyart said. Though some humans exhibit a small patch inside their nose resembling the vomeronasal organ in rats that detects pheromones, it appears to be vestigial, with no nerve connection to the brain.

"Pheromones are chemical molecules expressed by a species aimed at other members of the species to induce stereotyped behavior or hormonal changes," Wyart explained. "Many people argue that human pheromones don't exist, because humans don't exhibit stereotyped behavior. Nonetheless, this male chemical signal, androstadienone, does cause hormonal as well as physiological and psychological changes in women. More cognitive studies need to be done to understand how androstadienone affects female cognitive functions."

One implication of the finding is that there may be better ways to raise cortisol levels in patients with diseases such as Addison's disease, which is characterized by low cortisol. Instead of giving the hormone in pill form, which has side effects such as ulcers and weight gain, "a potential therapeutic mechanism whereby merely smelling synthesized or purified human chemosignals may be used to modify endocrine balance," the authors wrote.

Sweat has been the main focus of research on human pheromones, and in fact, male underarm sweat has been shown to improve women's moods and affect their secretion of luteinizing hormone, which is normally involved in stimulating ovulation. Other studies have shown that when female sweat is applied to the upper lip of other women, these women respond by shifting their menstrual cycles toward synchrony with the cycle of the woman from whom the sweat was obtained.

Androstadienone, a derivative of testosterone that is found in high concentration in male sweat, and in all other body secretions, has garnered the most attention. However, though its effect on a woman's mood, physiological arousal and brain activity suggests that the chemical is a possible pheromone-like signal in humans, its effect on hormone levels was unknown.

Wyart and Sobel set out to test whether androstadienone affects hormone levels as well, focusing on the hormone cortisol. Cortisol is secreted by the body in times of stress, priming the body for "fight or flight."

In two trials, a total of 48 undergraduate women at UC Berkeley were asked to take 20 sniffs from a bottle containing androstadienone, which smells vaguely musky. Over a period of two hours, the volunteers provided five saliva samples from which cortisol levels were determined.

Compared to their response when sniffing a control odor (yeast), the women who sniffed androstadienone reported an improved mood and significantly higher sexual arousal, while their physiological response, including blood pressure, heart rate and breathing, also increased. This was consistent with previous studies.

In addition, however, the UC Berkeley researchers found that cortisol levels rose within about 15 minutes of sniffing androstadienone, and remained elevated for more than an hour.

Wyart noted that, though this is the first time a specific component of male sweat has been shown to affect women's hormones, other constituents of male sweat likely have a similar effect. The question remains: Which comes first - the change in cortisol level, which may induce a change in mood or arousal; or a mood change that increases cortisol levels?

"We next need to look at other hormones that could explain the diversity of effects of androstadienone on sexual arousal and mood," she said.

Coauthors of the report include UC Berkeley undergraduates Sarah Wilson, Jonathan Chen and Andrew McClary; senior scientist Rehan Khan; and Dr. Wallace Webster, an otolaryngology resident at Kaiser Permanente Hospital in Oakland, Calif. The work was sponsored by the National Institute on Deafness and Other Communicable Disorders of the National Institutes of Health, and by the Army Office of Research."

Vainglory, Esq.

One thing this study failed to mention that totally skews the results:

Berkeley girls are sluts. :icon_smile_approve:

6pkrunner

Quote from: Vainglory on February 06, 2007, 11:25:05 PM
One thing this study failed to mention that totally skews the results:

Berkeley girls are sluts. :icon_smile_approve:

Just like statistics, its all contingent on your survey sample. What would be the good of doing this survey in a convent? Get a bunch of sluts in a lather and you've got a survey that's guaranteed to get more funding.

41husk

Quote from: 6pkrunner on February 07, 2007, 11:29:22 AM
Quote from: Vainglory on February 06, 2007, 11:25:05 PM
One thing this study failed to mention that totally skews the results:

Berkeley girls are sluts. :icon_smile_approve:

Just like statistics, its all contingent on your survey sample. What would be the good of doing this survey in a convent? Get a bunch of sluts in a lather and you've got a survey that's guaranteed to get more funding.
More interesting as well!
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Quote from: Vainglory on February 06, 2007, 11:25:05 PM
One thing this study failed to mention that totally skews the results:

Berkeley girls are sluts. :icon_smile_approve:

They also have their own distinct sweaty odor that most males find unattractive.

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Good, so if I want my alone time, I just don't need to shower for a few days. :icon_smile_approve:





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Sniff away  :puke:

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