I thought this was a cool web sight

[Doright]

 

Man I cant belive the readers here a going to tolorate any one picking on KIDS

I dont care how obnoxious they are 
they are just kids 
kids that are into Mopars just like we were

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

It is a cool website......look at all those cool smilies 

[Charger_Fan]

It is a cool website......look at all those cool smilies 

Not every site out there has this one...

[skip68]

I think it is a cool site.  I just don't like liars and people that are full of B.S. and I don't care what the age.  I wish the kid would learn, I hope he does.  Part of it I think is every time you turn around it's in your face. It's like that third party budding in with BS, you guys know what I'm talking about.  If you have questions, that's cool. Post all you want to and with pictures, that's cool to. Just don't try to fit in so hard that it makes you dishonest. Now here is my    This goes for everyone, If you are old enough to read and be a member then you are old enough to know better.  Doright, there is more to it than you know. This site is good and so are most all of the members here.  And I'm SPENT........ Chuck........................

[Ponch ®]

this web sight is out of site.

[69bronzeT5]

Here we go again

[BB1]

I was picked on when I was a kid; So what? They don't need to be pampered especially teenagers.

I'm not saying he's a bad kid, just annoying. Try www.myspace.com.

[69bronzeT5]

I dont plan on being pampered. I just would like everybody to stop picking on me. I am thankful though that the picking on is settling down.

[6pkrunner]

I think the issue is one of learning. When you were a kid and acted out of line, you got smacked and learned your lesson. Now there seems to be a continous barrage of acts and smacks. The learning is the missing part.

No one here has anything against someone wanting to learn or gain knowledge or just hang with people that have common likes. Many have done it in the past and many more will do so in the future. As the old adage states, "Actions speak louder than words." When the actions get to be more than repititious well.......

[Doright]

I just don't want too see kids get picked on no matter how annoying they may be... thats just plain mean and uncool.
Now I am a father of a 14 year old who is car crazy and I will be dammed if I will let any one pick on him OR any one else's kid for that matter!


Now that being said
When I was a KID I also KNEW when to to keep my mouth shut around the big guy's as some were really grouchy all the time and generally they were the ones that knew the most.
So generally I kept my mouth shut and only spoke when I was 150% sure what I was about to say was 100% true, And when I asked questions it was only after I had read a book about what I was trying to do what ever that may have been.

When I was that age I was hanging with Old Aircraft mechanics and Machinist's back home in Alaska, While a good percentage of my school friends were going around trying to find some one to scam off of (steel shit) I was cleaning parts at a machine shop or wrenching for them doing tear downs.
I always had some cash in my pocket and My car always ran! and I had the fastest dam Charger in town, None of my friends could say any of those things.

[MorePwr]

Doright bronzeT5

[TruckDriver]

This is a cool site. I been with this main bunch of people now for almost 4 years

[skip68]

You are correct Doright. However, this is not a case of us picking on this poor, poor kid.  T5 has brought this on himself and we have spanked him so to speak for that.  I think he is learning his lesson and that will be great. This is a site for everyone so we should try to conduct ourselves accordingly.  I think he's a good kid that is full of energy and has made a few wrong choices. Now 69bronzeT5, I know you will read this so pay attention. I and most every member here DOES NOT want you to leave.  We just want you to listen more and think about what you say before you say it.  Even us adults put our foot in our mouths from time to time.  You do this and before you know it you will have a better time here. You will still have guys poke fun at you (including me  ) but with good intent. And they will become your buddies.  Not everyone will see eye to eye but we must be civil.  This is a community and a good one so hang with us Doright. This will pass and work it'self out.     Chuck...........

[6pkrunner]

Now I am a father of a 14 year old who is car crazy and I will be dammed if I will let any one pick on him OR any one else's kid for that matter!

Agreed! And I am the father of a 24 year old, a 21 year old, a 20 year old and a 17 year old. I will defend them to the hilt if they are in the right and are being picked on or ill-treated.

But - if any of them act out of turn or make a nuisance of themselves after a warning or two - well they deserve to learn that there are consequences to your actions.

[BB1]

I'm big enough to apologize. A "new" Welcome to all under 18 year olds. 
Lets get past this.

[Doright]

Nice post
I am new around here and Hey I put my foot in my own mouth all the time and I hate the way it tastes! I also put my foot in other places (pile of?) stinks! A good example would be that Barrett jackson string Boy did I step into it there   I went off on a tangent were I thought I knew what the hell I was talking about Boy was I ever wrong. The guy's let it go though which surprised me,Thanks.   
so I know what you mean, I don't want to leave I like it here because it is a Very cool web forum!

I also don't know the whole story because I am new your right! I hope the kid learns something, Computers are a lot like C/B radio's but are better when used as a tool theres a right way and a wrong way to use it!

[TruckDriver]

As a parent, a lot of people wonder why in todays society, why the younger generation is getting to be more and more violent and disrespectful. Well, when you push the children of our future away, and don't let them become interested in our hobbys, what do you expect to happen. Then they have nothing better to do but join gangs, or turn to drugs, etc.. We should be happy that this/these young men have something we all have in common, old cars. Let them enjoy our hobby as one day when all us old guys are gone, they will be the owners of our cars. My own kids ask and do annoying things too, but any responsible parent deals with it. No, were not baby sitters here, but, if it was some kid in your family, would you still push him/her away because they annoy you? At least give these kids credit for having a "real" hobby, and not drugs.

[Brock Samson]

move along folks,.. nothing to see here.. 
   

[Drache]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned my name in all this.... 

or Silvers.... 

[69bronzeT5]

You are correct Doright. However, this is not a case of us picking on this poor, poor kid.  T5 has brought this on himself and we have spanked him so to speak for that.  I think he is learning his lesson and that will be great. This is a site for everyone so we should try to conduct ourselves accordingly.  I think he's a good kid that is full of energy and has made a few wrong choices. Now 69bronzeT5, I know you will read this so pay attention. I and most every member here DOES NOT want you to leave.  We just want you to listen more and think about what you say before you say it.  Even us adults put our foot in our mouths from time to time.  You do this and before you know it you will have a better time here. You will still have guys poke fun at you (including me  ) but with good intent. And they will become your buddies.  Not everyone will see eye to eye but we must be civil.  This is a community and a good one so hang with us Doright. This will pass and work it'self out.     Chuck...........

I am starting to listen more before I post.

[Doright]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned my name in all this.... 

or Silvers.... 

Sorry to dissapoint but the thread wasnt started or meant to bash anyone   

[Arthu®]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned my name in all this.... 

or Silvers.... 

Sorry to dissapoint but the thread wasnt started or meant to bash anyone   

Nah he is referring to the way he and silver (who is btw still bashed I believe) used to be bashed on this site. Drache actually spend some time off the site and has returned later. I have been bashed as well (was 14 back than, I guess it comes with the age) I just seemed to pick it up a little faster. After one good thread I learned and than it was over. I guess we all learn from our mistakes, he seems to be picking it up. Personally I agree that some of the members have been a bit harsh, but he'll live, if he can't take this he really isn't ready for life.

Arthur

[skip68]

I'm glad to see this is coming to a head.  We are like a family here of Charger (Mopar) freaks.  And now I'm spent but before I go, this is for all of my mopar family.    See ya.    Chuck...........

[Mean 318]

I am happy to see all of this getting worked out!

[69bronzeT5]

Im happy too.

[Doright]

I'm glad to see this is coming to a head.  We are like a family here of Charger (Mopar) freaks.  And now I'm spent but before I go, this is for all of my mopar family.    See ya.    Chuck...........

LMFAO

[69_500]

And here I was thinking that people were going to pick on me due to my age when I first started posting on the old site. Didn't happen. People here are really tollerant as long as you watch what you say. Or at least know what your talking about.

[RD]

And here I was thinking that people were going to pick on me due to my age when I first started posting on the old site. Didn't happen. People here are really tollerant as long as you watch what you say. Or at least know what your talking about.

the watch what you say thing can apply to many on this board...

the knowing what you are talking about,... well... maybe 1% LOL

[Brock Samson]

 sometimes we can be pretty ruff on the kids,.. if they post a bunch of really really dumb threads.. and silly and/or redundant posts...
i think we all want to help restore as many old mopars as possible, no problem there, bringin the young ones along..
but i dare ya,.. double dare ya,..  to read all his/they're  posts.. and then feel protective... 

Seems we get a new youngster,.. oh,.. about every two months..
and i've been picked on too,..  

[MorePwr]

  and sorry I picked on ya

[bull]

I dont plan on being pampered. I just would like everybody to stop picking on me. I am thankful though that the picking on is settling down.

I guarantee you the "picking on" bronze has received here has been in direct relation to his annoying BS. The less annoying BS from Bronze, the less he has been "picked on." The more/the more. I think everyone understands and appreciates his energy and excitement, but no one likes the Ritalin kid who runs around screaming, making messes and jumping up and putting his knee in your crotch eight times an hour while you're trying to watch football or read a magazine.

IMO he's learning to tone it down and that's good. Play it cool, try not to annoy, and we all will find life here a most pleasant experience.

[Brock Samson]

ya know that new movie.. i mentioned you should go see?..

Smoken Aces?..

It's got this crazy kid in it....   

[Shakey]

I dont plan on being pampered. I just would like everybody to stop picking on me. I am thankful though that the picking on is settling down.

.....but no one likes the Ritalin kid who runs around screaming, making messes and jumping up and putting his knee in your crotch eight times an hour while you're trying to watch football or read a magazine....

      

[6pkrunner]

ya know that new movie.. i mentioned you should go see?..

Smoken Aces?..

It's got this crazy kid in it....   

-seen it today Brock and now the reference to the minute Karate Kid makes a lot more sense. 

[Steve P.]

   Did I realllllly just rear this post??      

Someone please lock this thread before it gets any more MUSHY.....................

[Lord Warlock]

Hey, its not that us old farts go around looking for kids to swat.  When we were young, back before we had an internet, or political correctness for that matter, if you made a dumbass statement to real car guys, you got beat up, bitch slapped, ridiculed and ostracised, as well as gaining an instant moron reputation that followed you for months or even years.  Many of us older owners don't feel we should have to be politically correct to everyone all the time, you younger generation kids have taken away our ability to pick on fat guys, gay guys, black guys (and I mean guys here not gals-we rarely picked on chicks back then) kkk guys, dumbass guys, short guys, ugly guys etc, etc,.  We can't say crap about anyone without people jumping down our throats about being insensitive, racist, or pc. 

So when someone our daughter's age jumps in the pond and wants to play with the big boys and says something leaving themselves wide open for attack, you shouldn't get all upset and offended when a few of us take advantage of it.  (and I don't think I've done it to anyone here on this site yet, haven't been around long enough to get uppity or sarcastic, even if I was on the old site, and have had my charger since before the pilot for DOH aired, meaning long before many of the high count posters here.  I don't post on this site unless its a topic I feel its worthwhile doing so.  I have another site where I can go to when I want to chat or argue politics, and one I've been on with/and moderate on (sales areas) for the last 7 years or so.  It'll be years before my post count here reaches critical mass.  But at least I'll still have the charger r/t se and maybe it may even be roadworthy by then.  One thing I am always guilty of is posting fairly long responses, you will rarely see me post a one line comment. 

Don't let things get to you, Don't feel bad if someone slaps you, when we were growing up, it was politically correct to beat your children, smoke in restaurants and be rude if we really wanted to without fear of offending anyone.  We don't look to offend anyone, but if you lay your head down under our boots please don't expect us to not step down in order to be polite. 

[BB1]

Wow, well said Lord.
I was just a normal guy in the 70ds and 80ds, some of my best years.
Now I am a big mouth offender. Well I didn't change the world did.

Amen you old farts. 

[2fast4u]

  It's not just kids being picked on I think, it's also being in the right clique/group!  this site has a lot of people that post responses to the people they know and just flat out ignore the people they don't know most of the time.  Alot of my posts are not responded too , I really don't care.

  And when I want to start a new thread it usually has  A) little or no response (not part of the popular group I feel)  or B) gets shot down, laughed at or just made fun of, because I'm not in the right clique.  Even though it's something I'm interested in, 60% of the people don't have any interest  or  use it as an opportunity to make fun of you or what you've posted.

  Don't get me wrong, there are some good, fair and understanding people on here.  But not many.  Maybe thats why this thread was started. . .who knows! 

  Then why do I stay here and post?  I do it for the interest of a hobby that I'm very fond of and really don't care what others think of me, and for the love of a car that is part of my history, something sentimental.

2fast

[skip68]

  See 2fast4u, I responded. You can be in my click. NOW GO GET ME SOME COFFEE.  Just kiding. I don't think I've seen any of your post. If I do I'll try to say something even if it's wrong.    You are right, there does seem to be groups here so I just talk to everyone. Besides, everybody likes me.     Chuck...............

[2fast4u]

See 2fast4u, I responded. You can be in my click. NOW GO GET ME SOME COFFEE.  Just kiding. I don't think I've seen any of your post. If I do I'll try to say something even if it's wrong.    You are right, there does seem to be groups here so I just talk to everyone. Besides, everybody likes me.     Chuck...............

   I don't live, eat and breath this message board,like some of the others do here, is probably why you haven't seen any of my posts.  But I do post from time to time.  Unfortunately I don'y post on every topic that comes up that I like, mostly because of the "clique".  I have to be very careful about what I post about!

[skip68]

Hell no.  Post anything you want to.  Who cares about the "clicks" .      I'm not in a click I don't think.    But that's just because I'm not good enough.    I think that these "clicks" are just guys that have built up a relationship and or live close enough to see each other.  You just have to push your way in. 

[Charger_Fan]

  It's not just kids being picked on I think, it's also being in the right click/group!  this site has a lot of people that post responses to the people they know and just flat out ignore the people they don't know most of the time.  Alot of my posts are not responded too , I really don't care.

  And when I want to start a new thread it usually has  A) little or no response (not part of the popular group I feel)  or B) gets shot down, laughed at or just made fun of, because I'm not in the right click.  Even though it's something I'm interested in, 60% of the people don't have any interest  or  use it as an opportunity to make fun of you or what you've posted.

  Don't get me wrong, there are some good, fair and understanding people on here.  But not many.  Maybe thats why this thread was started. . .who knows! 

My take on that is that you're being thin-skinned. Maybe you don't perceive yourself as such, but that's the way it's coming across. I don't recall myself intentionally not responding to your past posts & I seriously doubt there are many here who do. Sorry if you feel as though you've been intentionally ignored in the past.

I don't think threads (or posts) are overlooked or have little response because they were started by any certain individual, it's more like the subject content. If the subject doesn't appeal to a wide variety of individuals, it's not going to draw as many responses as one that does...just common sense. I seriously doubt you've been singled out to be automatically ignored by anybody.

There's plenty of times I've posted things that sounded good to me when I played it in my head , that had little or no response...I chalk that up to "the joke was more funny in person" type of thing, does that make sense?  That's just how it is, some things are just more widely received than others. I don't think I'm in any certain 'click', maybe I am, maybe I'm not...don't really care. I consider a lot of members here friends, though.
Chances are, quite a few of my posts are merely written off as a bunch of mindless babble & tossed aside, this one included, but at least it sounded good in my head as I wrote it.

If you look at this thread; http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,24069.0.html , he got zero responses & is now buried 3 pages back. I'm guessing part of the reason for zero responses is because he's talking about a Chebby, or because he's sorta babbling, or maybe it's just because his avatar & sig pic tends to sour people's opinion of him, I dunno.

Oh & as a polar opposite to Lord Warlock's comment (somebody's gotta do it), I enjoy posting one line responses...there's less typing involved that way.

[Lord Warlock]

A) little or no response (not part of the popular group I feel)  or B) gets shot down, laughed at or just made fun of, because I'm not in the right click

There are no popular groups in car forums.  There may be a group that responds to similar type threads, but this isn't high school, forum members don't hang out together waiting to slap around the ugly kid.  I believe the word you are searching for is clique, not click.  You click a mouse, or a bic lighter.  Don't worry so much about "belonging to a group"  life is what YOU make of it, not what your friends do or say.  Once you get out of your teens, and grow a family of your own, going out and doing group things with friends just isn't that important anymore, your new group is family and that is the only group that really matters.  You can have car friends but don't do things to a car because a friend thinks it looks better that way, only do it if YOU think its better that way.   If I modded my charger when I was young to impress friends or acquaintances it'd be tubbed, roll barred, painted a different color, have a bunch of stupid scoops and wings on it and it would probably be rotting in a scrap yard now because it isn't what "I" wanted most. 

Car forums as a whole are a source of information, from a group of people that share a similar interest, and may or may not be able to provide you with advice worth following.  We are not a car club or group of buddies that meet up at the drive in hamburger joint on Saturday nights.  (or a gang) 

[skip68]

[Once you get out of your teens, and grow a family of your own, going out and doing group things with friends just isn't that important anymore, your new group is family and that is the only group that really matters.

I know this is off the subject a little but that is so true. 

[2fast4u]

CHARGER FAN:
    I never said that I had been singled out, hence this thread was wrote.

Lord Warlock:
    "BINGO!" It's the group that respond to similar type threads that I am referring to "the Clique!"  By the way, I want to thank you for the correction on my English and I am truly sorry that it offended you enough that you felt compelled to correct me even though you knew what I meant when I used click instead of clique.  F.Y.I.  I have gone back and corrected my mistakes on the word clique.
   As far as belonging to a group. I was under the assumption that the Charger Meassage Board was a group. A group of people with common interest. And as for my "friends", they are supposed to be people I meet in person as well as on this message board or for that matter just about anywhere.
   As for the group that really matters. I value my wife and five children dearly "BUT" Lord Warlock I don't limit myself to just family.

   Not a Car Club?  We're not buddies? Shame on you! If this forum is just for information that you may or may not be worth following then tell me Lord Warlock why is it so personal? We each have a name we gave ourselves and we each talk about personal things.
  Define car club for me. Does it have to be limited to hanging out at the drive-in hamburger joint or even on a specific day of the year where people meet at a particular place?

   Why not meet here on the Charger Message Board (with open minds)! Why not consider getting to know others here that aren't someone you've met in person like at a car show?  Who knows we may even end up being "buddies!"  But you have to try first!

2fast

[Lord Warlock]

Hey, don't get personal 2fast4U.....I've had my custom tag 2QIK4U since 1984.  As far as correcting english/grammar, its a pet peeve and wasn't meant to be argumentative, only informational.  I'm inactive as a member of the grammar police here, but it is how I make my living, writing stuff so will correct you if it rubs me the wrong way.  And got tired of seeing click repeated by not just yourself but others as well, so just clarified so everyone could know the right way to do it. 

Yes the charger board is a group, and some may even have what they consider friends online.  I have a couple here that know me from my other boards (I use the same user name everywhere) and may consider me as a friend.  However, I don't group, I don't try to meet anyone in person, and don't attend events...mainly because my car isn't roadworthy yet.  Maybe I'll try to later when it is. 

Car club? it depends on the definition or how you perceive a car club.  In a sense we are a virtual car club, but nothing like what a car club was considered to be (basically the same as a social gang) back when I was a kid.  In my days, car clubs met on the weekends or on select weeknights with cars and leather jackets and patches and either street raced, or generally raised a little hell...similar to a biker gang.  I belong to the local mustang club, I attend meetings and gatherings, and occasionally go to regional gatherings.  I consider it to be a car club.  I don't feel the same way about the message boards.  I have attended regional gatherings with other car forum groups though but don't consider them as official car clubs either....an enthusiast group yes, a large organization yes, and friends yes, but car club no.  I am the Local chapter President of the Stealth owners of North Florida, as I plan all the gatherings etc, but it isn't truly a car club, just a loose organization. 
There is a local mopar car club that i will join when the charger is roadworthy again, and includes people i consider friends, but i don't hang with them now, not until my car is ready.  Even though my stealth is a mopar, it doesn't really fit in with old musclecars...plus its jap powered so would be classified as a rice burner in my age group.  (ricer)

I have friends online, who are mostly people that have read my longwinded posts and agree with most of what I spew out, and I spend way too much time online so I guess they would fall under the category of buddies, but since I haven't met them in person, it just doesn't feel the same.  But I ain't driving halfway across the country just to meet some online friends...sorry, the torture of kids in the car for 2 days is just too much to handlle.  And I rank my family as more important use of time. 

[2fast4u]

  I guess it's like "we'll have to agree to disagree" sort of thing.  It's like talking to a net. Some you catch and some you don't. oh well.

  at least we aren't yelling and cussing at each other....for that I thank you..my friend

  2fast

p.s.  I am only two years yonger than you.

[2fast4u]

  Oh and by the way

  Check out the thread "Moparts" under this same Off Topic Discussion. Post #4

  I'm not the only person here who feels this way! 

2fast

[6pkrunner]

As with everything that changes I would say the definition of "club" has had to bend to suit the internet. For me a club is a gathering of common minded individuals. Nothing says the meeting of individuals had to be in person. We're all here for the love of Chargers or Mopars more in general, or just car fans. And yes of the membership here certain individulas will tend to see, through posts, a deeper commonality than with others. This will grow through through PMs and such. And on some boards clique is indeed applicable. And it doesn't take long for these to be identified and all members listed and accounted for.
They do exist and are more overt in some instances than others. I do not think that they exist or function on this board as on several others that I visit.
They are real and do survive in cyberspace.
No my thing though. I'm more of the gathering of the like minded individuals to talk, laugh and have a good time and see the automotive addiction has afflicted others than myself. While my family is first and formost in my life, none but my oldest will discuss cam lift and duration or the qualities and styling cues of a 1969 Charger versues a 1968 or 1970 versions.
But I would have to term the board a club and personalities do come through the keyboards given enough time on them.

[Lord Warlock]

I don't believe in fighting on the internet, yelling or screeching etc.  I can argue with my fingers just fine.  I certainly don't expect everyone to agree with my own beliefs.  Car clubs to me are an in person thing.  Web forums are an extension of car clubs, and allow those of us that would meet together in person if it was feasible but for some reason want to do much of what we would do at a real car club while sitting in our chair at home. 

I do enjoy discussing car topics online, its much cheaper than firing up the 440. 

[Brock Samson]

might i suggest ya come on/in the Chat Room we have really cool regular members and funny and sometime even personal discussions..

  perhaps that would be a good way to bond... 

[Brock Samson]

now would be good...

kabbie dentbusters and i are up...