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1970 Superbee Carb #

Started by shawnmd, February 04, 2007, 06:28:57 PM

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shawnmd

Sorry, not about Chargers, but close.  I am wondering if anybody knows what the part # would be for a Carter 4 barrel carb on a 1970 Dodge Superbee, 383, manual, non ac, non PB car?  The reason I asked, is that I purchased a carb for that exact car for my father inlaw from Autoline.  Their part number for the carb is C6019 but after we received the carb, we don't think it is correct for the bee.  The stamped number, isn't matching up with some restoration books we have.  It is the correct autoline # C6019. Does anybody have the original part number or can point me to where I can get the info?

Thanks

MOPARHOUND!

Galen's book is showing a Holley #R4738, #R4367, #R4217, or R4736??

Does it have an air grabber (ramcharger) hood (N96)?  California emissions (N95)?

I would have guessed a Carter of some type.
1971 Charger R/T, 440 H.P., Auto, A/C Daily Driven (till gas went nuts).  NOW IN CARS FOR SALE SECTION: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,48709.0.html
1969 Charger 318/Auto (latest addtion): http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,31948.0.html
*Speed costs money son, how fast do you want to go, and for how long?"
*"Build the biggest engine you can afford the first time."
*"We normally wouldn't use a 383 for this build, parts and labor for a 440 cost the same."

Shakey

I stumbled across this website sometime ago while looking for the correct Carter AVS for my car.

http://www.thecarburetorshop.com/Kdodge.htm

It's easier to read on their website.


Dodge applications and repair kits

     Year   Engine       Model           Carburetor   Type                      Number                  Kit



   1970    8 383 S/T (California)         Carter     BBD                   4727                        2184

   1970    8 383 A/T W/AC                 Carter     BBD                   4894                        2185

   1970    8 383 A/T                      Carter     AVS                   4736                        1468

   1970    8 383 A/T ECS                  Carter     AVS                   4734                        1468

   1970    8 383 A/T                      Carter     AVS                   4732                        1468

   1970    8 383 A/T (California)         Carter     BBD                   4728                        2185

   1970    8 383 A/T                      Carter     BBD                   4726                        2185

   1970    8 383 S/T                      Carter     BBD                   4725                        2184

   1970    8 383 A/T (Export)             Carter     BBD                   4730                        2184

   1970    8 383 E.C.S. S/T               Holley     4160                  4217    3418537             2215

   1970    8 383 E.C.S. A/T               Holley     4160                  4218    3418543             2215

   1970    8 383 C.A.S. S/T               Holley     4160                  4367    3418536             2215

   1970    8 383 C.A.S. A/T               Holley     4160                  4368    3418542             2215

   1970    8 383 C.A.S. A/T A/C           Holley     4160                  4369                        2215



shawnmd

Thanks, but I have seen that list before.  Notice how it does not list a 383 manual trans. or superbee for 1970.  Thats what is confusing me.

Shakey

Quote from: shawnmd on February 08, 2007, 10:58:30 AM
Thanks, but I have seen that list before.  Notice how it does not list a 383 manual trans. or superbee for 1970.  Thats what is confusing me.

When I had questions about Carter carbs that no one here could answer, I called a few shops across the continent to get some feedback.  I am pretty sure I contacted the owners of the web site and they helped me with my questions.

Worth a shot.

MOPARHOUND!

Quote from: shawnmd on February 08, 2007, 10:58:30 AM
Thanks, but I have seen that list before.  Notice how it does not list a 383 manual trans. or superbee for 1970.  Thats what is confusing me.

I'm interpreting the S/T as standard transmission, meaning manual transmission??

The carb numbers I listed from Galen's book are for manual transmission 383-4bbl, and 2 are consistent with the numbers Shakey posted, if you interpret S/T as Manual.  Galen uses the abbreviation "MANL" in his white book.
1971 Charger R/T, 440 H.P., Auto, A/C Daily Driven (till gas went nuts).  NOW IN CARS FOR SALE SECTION: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,48709.0.html
1969 Charger 318/Auto (latest addtion): http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,31948.0.html
*Speed costs money son, how fast do you want to go, and for how long?"
*"Build the biggest engine you can afford the first time."
*"We normally wouldn't use a 383 for this build, parts and labor for a 440 cost the same."

69CoronetRT

70 saw the switch from Carter's to Holleys on the 383HP engine. So you will mostly likely be looking for a Holley. If you have the Broadcast sheet, it will tell you exactly what carb was on the car.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

MOPARHOUND!

The 70 Bee broadcast sheet I have shows 36 under Carb.

It is a 383/4speed/Ramcharger Air 70 Bee. 

If 36 is the last 2 digits of the carb number, that would follow Galen's book showing a Holley 4 barrel:

Carb #4736, 1970 383-4barrel  Manual with N96 (code for Ramcharger Air induction).
1971 Charger R/T, 440 H.P., Auto, A/C Daily Driven (till gas went nuts).  NOW IN CARS FOR SALE SECTION: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,48709.0.html
1969 Charger 318/Auto (latest addtion): http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,31948.0.html
*Speed costs money son, how fast do you want to go, and for how long?"
*"Build the biggest engine you can afford the first time."
*"We normally wouldn't use a 383 for this build, parts and labor for a 440 cost the same."

69CoronetRT

Quote from: MOPARHOUND! on February 10, 2007, 10:38:53 AM
The 70 Bee broadcast sheet I have shows 36 under Carb.

It is a 383/4speed/Ramcharger Air 70 Bee. 

If 36 is the last 2 digits of the carb number, that would follow Galen's book showing a Holley 4 barrel:

Carb #4736, 1970 383-4barrel  Manual with N96 (code for Ramcharger Air induction).

36 is the last two digits of the Mopar, not Holley, PN. So '36' PN3418336 Holley 4367 for 383-4bbl manual w/wo A/C
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

MOPARHOUND!

I looked up the 4367 carb # in Galen's book.  It is a Holley.  He has a column for PN (presumably part number), beside the Carb# column, and the number listed is 36, just as on the broadcast sheet.

It lists the application as 1970 383-4barrel Manual (does not mention the N96 option, code for Ramcharger Air induction).

Decoding, ain't it fun.

1971 Charger R/T, 440 H.P., Auto, A/C Daily Driven (till gas went nuts).  NOW IN CARS FOR SALE SECTION: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,48709.0.html
1969 Charger 318/Auto (latest addtion): http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,31948.0.html
*Speed costs money son, how fast do you want to go, and for how long?"
*"Build the biggest engine you can afford the first time."
*"We normally wouldn't use a 383 for this build, parts and labor for a 440 cost the same."