vin troubles... help

[rustycharger]

 i got a 73 charger se, but it ant a se body were can i look on the body for a vin number other then the dash?

[rustycharger]

heres a pic of it

[Charger1973]

By the looks of it I would say its a VIN swap.  He has a WP29 VIN and a WL21 (from the best I can tell) car.  The rear quarter windows are bolted in and he has the standard dash with the silver/black instead of woodgrain.  Door panels have woodgrain but are not original to the car (they have window crank holes when a WL21 car wouldnt have them). 

[694spdRT]

Did you get all that from one picture or is there another post about the car? 

Is the fender tag still there on the driver side inside fender?

[Charger1973]

Did you get all that from one picture or is there another post about the car? 

No he asked me about it on messenger.  Im not that good.   

[69bronzeT5]

Ya, I gotta agree with Charger1973. Its either had a vin swap or the vin was just taken it and was never replaced with another one or the same one. If it isnt on the dash then the vin tag is gone

[694spdRT]

Did you get all that from one picture or is there another post about the car? 

No he asked me about it on messenger.  Im not that good.   

LOL....I was about ready to put the magnifying glass to the computer screen. 

[rustycharger]

vins on the dash. it shows it is a se but the body shows hordtop

[694spdRT]

vins on the dash. it shows it is a se but the body shows hordtop

The body stamping and fender tag show a WL instead of WP? If that is the case one or the other was swapped and the rear windows don't show any signs of having the Opera windows or SE emblems.

[Charger1973]

Im guessing WL by the bolted in quarter windows and plain jane dash but could be WH...  WP is a long shot though...  Im not sure what his body stampings or fender tag says he will have to post that info

[rustycharger]

windows show nothing. like nothing was done to them, i havent checked the fender tage yet but other then there, is there some were on the body that has the vin on it?

[694spdRT]

I think the 3rd gens are like the E bodies and there is a stamping on top of the driver side cowl area. Open the hood and check around by the plastic vent grill.(it may not be a complete Vin# but it will have a partial)

[rustycharger]

well i looked for a fender tag. nothing. i looked at the radiator subport, nothing. only vin i see that it has is the one on the dash.  any one got a rusted out 73 with papers for sell lol lol. what other options do i have?

[JimsSE]

How 'bout the broadcast sheet?  The car kinda looks orignal, maybe you'll find it.  I found mine tucked up underneath the passenger side of the front seat.  Or maybe yours could be under the back seat..  Give it a look.
Jim

[694spdRT]

Maybe I missed something. Does your title match the Vin# on the dash or not?

[rustycharger]

 i found what was left of them sheets lol rats was living in the car for a while. not much left of them. 

[rustycharger]

i have no title for the car. i was going to file for a bonded title for it. but numbers on the dash tells its a se charger. but it isn't one. only vin i can find on it is the dash vin

[twilt]

 Somebody probably swapped the entire dash out of an SE into your car. If thats the case......its Illegal.  You would not want that car inspected  by law enforcement as you probably have to do to apply for a bonded title.  .....I`d cut that sucker up for parts and look for another car with clean paper work.

[rustycharger]

thats why i am starting to look for one that needs work and that has papers. lots of good parts on this one and i can use them.

[694spdRT]

I suppose you could get one of those state issued Vin#'s. I have no experience in doing that at all. Did you check the cowl area yet? I assume you already looked for a door sticker? Also is the original engine still in the car because that should have the Vin# on it.

I will say getting another Vin# and putting it on the car will not be any more legit than just using the one that is already attached....both of which are not technically legal. You could always find a set of opera windows, a few emblems, vinyl top, and presto.....instant SE. 

You are going to have trouble either way because if you do find the correct Vin# your dash tag will not match and if you use the SE Vin# the body won't match. It won't matter to you probably but in the event of a sale it does throw up a flag.   

[twilt]

A state issued VIN would require inspection by law enforcement. They probably will find and run those other numbers. If by chance those numbers come back hot, you got some explaining to do. You might not be arrested, but you can bet law enforcement would seize the vehicle.

Here in GA a title isn`t required on a older vehicle, they are sold with a bill of sale only. However, to register it you have to have law enforcement
inspect the vehicle (numbers) and run them thru state/national computer system to ensure they have not been reported as stolen. Local law enforcement will come to your house/business to do this.  Its a wise thing to do this at the actual time of sale instead of waiting to do it later.    If you wait... and it turns out hot, you lose it. At that point, if you wanted your $$ back,  I suppose you would have to sue the person who sold you the vehicle. The officer who inspected my last one was real nice but did remind me that I took some risk by waiting to have the inspection done.

[rustycharger]

I suppose you could get one of those state issued Vin#'s. I have no experience in doing that at all. Did you check the cowl area yet? I assume you already looked for a door sticker? Also is the original engine still in the car because that should have the Vin# on it.


  i checked. all gone, only vin is the dash looks like i got a real good parts car. now i need a real title car to put them on. and the motor is not in it. i got 500 in the car. thats what i paid for the 76 duster i traded for it

[694spdRT]

Non-title cars are a pain in Wisconsin too. I don't know if they need to inspect or not but a 5 year bond is needed along with a documented history of previous owners. My dad bought an Alabama car about 10 years ago and that had a bill of sale. I don't recall him having any trouble with that one but many states are cracking down on anything that smells of a "Title Service".

If you have a in state or out of state title you don't have to do anything but mail in the correct forms and money. No inspections or anything are needed.

Without a title I would say parts car on his Charger as well if he wants to keep everything above board....the quarters look pretty good.

[rustycharger]

they r good and floors r to, fenders r good, driver needs work, great doors. all glass. all intereor, missing front bumpper and tail lights. taxes r comeing soon lol just need to find a car lol

[Chargerguy74]

Roll down quarter windows could be ordered on the SE....instead of louvers. If the quarter windows are bolted into place then it's a coupe.