Are these rare???

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

ive seen i think 1 or 2 pics of a daytona or a 500 wearing these and no other car i have seen them with, so are these hubcaps rare???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-71-DODGE-WHEELCOVERS-HUBCAPS-CORONET-CHARGER-ETC_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ140745QQihZ003QQitemZ130070236200QQrdZ1

[Brock Samson]

yeah they were supposed to come on the monacos and polaras in '69...
i dont think they were actually on chargers off the showroom floor just in a couple pics..

[2fast4u]

  got one pic with a `70 Charger wearin' those hub caps..................

[triple_green]

I've never seen those on anything but C bodies in real life.

[Nacho-RT74]

71 Chargers were equipped with those here

[bull]

I'd say most hubcaps sometimes found on muscle cars are rare because they are not very desirable and were jettisoned in favor of mag wheels. In general the same is true for other less desirable items sometimes found on muscle cars such as 2bbl carbs, 6 cyl engines or AM radios.

[rt green]

they never stayed on the back wheels for very long

[bull]

they never stayed on the back wheels for very long

Yup. The Charger in Bullitt lost about 8 of them in 10 minutes.

[Ghoste]

 

[CHASWINGMAN2]

These were optional wheel covers availble on all Dodge models in 69.  The main reason you don't see many on a 69 charger is because they were for the cars with 15" wheels.   For the 15" wheel cars you only had 4 choices, the ones there on ebay, dog dish with the red stripe, and the multifinned type that were also on c bodies.  The only diffference between the charger caps and the c body caps was the fact that on the c body, it said "Chrysler Disc Brakes" in the center, where Charger was just plane red.  I'll try to find some pics to post.  The other option of course were the "Recall wheels"   My father bought a 69 Coronet 500 wagon with disc brakes and the wheel covers were the type on ebay.  He kept losing them and eventually put some dog dishes on.

[jmanscharger]

Don't think they are too rare. I have 2 sets of them  , but as with many things mopar if you are looking for them they may be hard to find.

[hemihead]

' Muscle Cars' didn't come with 2bbl. carbs or 6 cyl. engines, those are just basic transportation.

[bull]

' Muscle Cars' didn't come with 2bbl. carbs or 6 cyl. engines, those are just basic transportation.

I keep trying to tell that to the guys who own six pack cars but I never get anywhere.

[hemihead]

A Six Pak isn't a 2bbl carb it is an induction system.

[bull]

A Six Pak isn't a 2bbl carb it is an induction system.

Six pack cars came with three 2bbl carbs, ding-dong, therefore they came "with 2bbl. carbs."

[hemihead]

A 2bbl is a 2bbl , as in 1 , a 6 Pak is considered an induction system not 3 separate carbs, It is considered an assembly not 3 separate assemblies.And no matter how hard you wish it to be so, Muscle Cars didn't come with 2 bbls.And by you calling me names just shows your lack of education.

[Ghoste]

Other than the "ding dong" part, I think Bull was just kidding around on all the rest of it.

[bull]

A 2bbl is a 2bbl , as in 1 , a 6 Pak is considered an induction system not 3 separate carbs, It is considered an assembly not 3 separate assemblies.And no matter how hard you wish it to be so, Muscle Cars didn't come with 2 bbls.And by you calling me names just shows your lack of education.

You being a ding-dong has nothing to do with my level of education.

But since you apparently have a doctorate degree in induction system labeling and muscle car identification, Doctor Mopar, maybe you can lay down the law for all of us here by answering a few questions so we can set your word in stone. I don't think the term "induction system" was even in use when the first six pack was made, do you professor? A six pack has three 2bbl carburetors, right? Therefore, six pack cars "come with 2bbl. carbs" do they not? Since you're officially labeling everything (like God and Adam in the garden of Eden) is a small block 4bbl more of a muscle car than a big block 2bbl? Is a stock 6 cyl or 2bbl car never considered a muscle car, even if someone transplants a 472 Hemi, or a 440/8 pack, or a 383 4bbl, a 340 six pack or even a 340 4bbl for that matter? What about the guy who works his 225 slant six over to the point that it's faster in the quarter mile than stock 440s? Does he have a muscle car? And what about the guy who transplants a 5.7 Hemi in place of a worn out 440? He's actually dropping the number of CIs. Does he still have a muscle car? What about the guy who removes his original 426 Hemi in favor of a 318 2bbl? Does he have a muscle car? What about the guy who owns a 383/2bbl Belvadere instead of a 383/4bbl Satellite, does he own a muscle car?

Last question: besides your vast amounts of education and intelligence, what gives you any right to decide who has a muscle car and who doesn't?

[hemihead]

Hey genius, I didn't create the definition of the Muscle Car , Detroit did. Yes Chrysler themselves used the term " Induction System" starting with the "Ram Induction" systems in the early 60's.It was also used to describe the 6 Pak induction systems when they came out.So don't think next time. If you have 6 bucks in your pocket do you only count them as 2? I will say this again for the slow minded, it is an ASSEMBLY.
No, a 340 4bbl is not more of a Muscle Car ENGINE than a 383 2bbl... It IS a Muscle Car Engine.In stock form a 383 2 bbl was not and was never meant to be a Muscle Car Engine.And you said the word yourself,"if someone TRANSPLANTS",wouldn't that be a clone?Some very nice clones are made true,but it's not a factory Muscle Car.In your twisted way of thinking that would make any 2bbl car a Muscle Car. Like all Darts ,Scamps,Dusters,Demons,Asens,Volares,Polaras,Furys,Omnis,Horizons,Cordobas,Newports,and don't forget any Pickup or any Lean Burn variation of the aforementioned models and some models I left out.And anyone who removes his Hemi to downgrade to a 318 is either smart for saving the engine for later or out of his mind.Now , it is not my fault you feel that your masculinity is threated because you have a 383 2 bbl. . As stated before,I didn't create the definition,Detroit did.
Oh and the answer to your last question :I have as much right as the guy most of you worship your god and master GG.
  And, just incase you feel you still want to call me childish names, I do have an Associates Degree in Automotive Technology so I do know which end of the Torque Wrench to use and not to point the spray gun away from my face.I have been working on nothing but Mopars for 30 years.Just so you know.

[bull]

Hey genius, I didn't create the definition of the Muscle Car , Detroit did. Yes Chrysler themselves used the term " Induction System" starting with the "Ram Induction" systems in the early 60's.It was also used to describe the 6 Pak induction systems when they came out.So don't think next time. If you have 6 bucks in your pocket do you only count them as 2? I will say this again for the slow minded, it is an ASSEMBLY.
No, a 340 4bbl is not more of a Muscle Car ENGINE than a 383 2bbl... It IS a Muscle Car Engine.In stock form a 383 2 bbl was not and was never meant to be a Muscle Car Engine.And you said the word yourself,"if someone TRANSPLANTS",wouldn't that be a clone?Some very nice clones are made true,but it's not a factory Muscle Car.In your twisted way of thinking that would make any 2bbl car a Muscle Car. Like all Darts ,Scamps,Dusters,Demons,Asens,Volares,Polaras,Furys,Omnis,Horizons,Cordobas,Newports,and don't forget any Pickup or any Lean Burn variation of the aforementioned models and some models I left out.And anyone who removes his Hemi to downgrade to a 318 is either smart for saving the engine for later or out of his mind.Now , it is not my fault you feel that your masculinity is threated because you have a 383 2 bbl. . As stated before,I didn't create the definition,Detroit did.
Oh and the answer to your last question :I have as much right as the guy most of you worship your god and master GG.
  And, just incase you feel you still want to call me childish names, I do have an Associates Degree in Automotive Technology so I do know which end of the Torque Wrench to use and not to point the spray gun away from my face.I have been working on nothing but Mopars for 30 years.Just so you know.

Oooo. An Associates Degree. I have two Associates Degrees so I must be smarter than you. Your bassackwards mindset is in no way threatening to me, I'm just wondering which of your orifices you're pulling this information out of. If anyone is threatened it's the elitist hemi head guys who feel the need to go around pointing out that anyone without a hemi or a big block 4bbl does not own a muscle car. So please, enlighten me as to when and where "Detroit" labeled each of their cars either a muscle car or not a muscle car. Are you saying those labeled HP are the only muscle cars because I've never seen the term "muscle car" used by any Detroit executive other than some advertising geeks who showed up late to the party?

[69CoronetRT]

yeah they were supposed to come on the monacos and polaras in '69...
i dont think they were actually on chargers off the showroom floor just in a couple pics..

I agree.

It's my understanding that only the Hemi cars got the 15" rims in 69 and would recieve the 'turbine' full covers or dog dishes. If someone has factory documents showing this style of wheel cover was available on a 69 Charger, I would really like to see.

Chris? Can you confirm one way or the other?

Bull...

Six pack cars came with three 2bbl carbs, ding-dong, therefore they came "with 2bbl. carbs."

Muscle Cars' didn't come with 2bbl. carbs or 6 cyl. engines, those are just basic transportation.

According to your posts and logic...if T/As, AARs, A12 Cars and the other six pack/ six bbl cars came with two bbl carbs and muscle cars didn't come with 2bbl carbs, the above mentioned cars are not muscle cars. Is that what you mean to say?

[BMOTOXSTAR]

You being a ding-dong has nothing to do with my level of education.

[bull]

Bull...

Six pack cars came with three 2bbl carbs, ding-dong, therefore they came "with 2bbl. carbs."

Muscle Cars' didn't come with 2bbl. carbs or 6 cyl. engines, those are just basic transportation.

According to your posts and logic...if T/As, AARs, A12 Cars and the other six pack/ six bbl cars came with two bbl carbs and muscle cars didn't come with 2bbl carbs, the above mentioned cars are not muscle cars. Is that what you mean to say?

I'm not totally sure what you're asking because you quoted both myself and hemihead. hemihead's quote is the 2nd one that says, "Muscle Cars' didn't come with 2bbl. carbs or 6 cyl. engines, those are just basic transportation." And I'm saying that by his definition the six pack cars are not really "muscle cars" either and never have been. I don't agree with that (I'm just making a point) but we are arguing semantics because he feels the need to point out that those of us with "lessor" engine configurations do not own muscle cars but rather vehicles of "basic transportation." I guess he's equating the term "HP engine" with "muscle car" but I'm not sure. At any rate, it's gotten old. Apparently hemihead feels his testosterone level increases and he's able to sprout one more chest hair by pointing out the "shortcomings" of the cars owned by his fellow board members. If so, I'm happy to help out. It's all good.

[69CoronetRT]

I'm not totally sure what you're asking because you quoted both myself and hemihead. hemihead's quote is the 2nd one that says, "Muscle Cars' didn't come with 2bbl. carbs or 6 cyl. engines, those are just basic transportation."

Yep...I mixed two different posters. Thanks for clarifying that.

"Muscle car" is a term that cannot be defined as you can always find an exception to what someone says is the definition.

You're right...it's all good. Just enjoy what you have, share with others and play nice.

[dads_69]

Heres a question. If a '69 charger comes w/a 318 from factory, I then install a 496  540 H.P. motor 612 Trq. Is it now a musclecar or still just basic transportation? Cause I'm sure not getting the gas mileage I used w/it! 
Mark

[red72chrgr]

Heres a question. If a '69 charger comes w/a 318 from factory, I then install a 496 540 H.P. motor 612 Trq. Is it now a musclecar or still just basic transportation? Cause I'm sure not getting the gas mileage I used w/it!
Mark

Nah, can't be a true muscle car, you fed it steroids and we know those are illegal. 

[gtx6970]

Heres a question. If a '69 charger comes w/a 318 from factory, I then install a 496 540 H.P. motor 612 Trq. Is it now a musclecar or still just basic transportation? Cause I'm sure not getting the gas mileage I used w/it!
Mark

Nah, can't be a true muscle car, you fed it steroids and we know those are illegal. 

[rt green]

who can piss the farthest?

[red72chrgr]

Then I guess my charger will be on steroids.    Once again, more jealously arouses.
Mark

No jealousy, I'll just wave as I pass you filling your tank up.

[dads_69]

dude, give it rest already, gees. 
Mark

[Nacho-RT74]

Is the 79 Lebaron running against the Viper on "TNT Nitro" TV Presentation a muscle car or not?. I think the Lebaron could beat the Viper if train is not on the way of race

P.S.: I don't know if does exist that movie section on USA TNT TV Channel... I hope since if not, then my comment has no sense