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I need a comprehensive 1968 body tag database

Started by Magnumcharger, January 18, 2007, 09:32:50 PM

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Magnumcharger

I'm getting a tag made for my Charger, to replace one that's been AWOL since I've owned it.
I have a basic outline of the body option codes, but it doesn't give enough information.

Anybody have anything more inclusive?
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

Arthu®

uhm what exactly are you looking for? More codes?

Arthur
Striving for world domination since 1986

Magnumcharger

Yes.
For instance, I know that Code 43 is for tires, specifically 7.75 x 14 while wall, and Code 44 is for F70 x 14 red line tires.
What are all of the other codes for tires?

Another: Code 5 is automatic transmission, and I THINK code 6 is for 4 speed. I have no way of verifying this.

This is the tip of the iceberg.
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

mikepmcs

Life isn't Father Knows Best anymore, it's a kick in the face on a saturday night with a steel toed grip kodiak work boot and a trip to the hospital all bloodied and bashed.....for reconstructive surgery. But, what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger, right?

Arthu®

A great help for this and far more complete than all the websites together are the white books by Galen Govier. You should look into buying the 66-68 Fender Tag Decoding book.

Arthur
Striving for world domination since 1986

41husk

1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

Ghoste

Tags Backeast, Datatags, I think.  Do a quick search and you'll find there were a couple of threads on repop tags not very long ago.

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: Ghoste on January 19, 2007, 11:32:50 AM
Tags Backeast, Datatags, I think.  Do a quick search and you'll find there were a couple of threads on repop tags not very long ago.
:icon_smile_cool:


yes they did mine for 40.00 but it siply said "test car"
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

Ghoste

I've noticed a few of the F.A.S.T. class Mopars run custom tags with clever Hemi witticisms.

Magnumcharger

Thanks for the input guys.
I'm surprised that there aren't more people interested in what is on their 1968-vintage data plates!

It definately is alot easier to work with the 69-70 versions.
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

Ghoste

66 and 67 too for that matter.  The system adopted for 69 and on makes for a strength in numbers thing I suppose when it comes to decoding.

69CoronetRT

Quote from: Magnumcharger on January 18, 2007, 09:32:50 PM
I'm getting a tag made for my Charger, to replace one that's been AWOL since I've owned it.
I have a basic outline of the body option codes, but it doesn't give enough information.

Anybody have anything more inclusive?

I assume you know remade tags are a controversial topic to begin with.

Do you have the invoice, broadcast sheet or window sticker? Have you taken into account plant variations of coding? How will you be able to 'prove' the options on the tag if questioned? Are you prepared to take some flak from some people that do not approve of remade tags? What will be your response? Will the tag stay with the car when the next person owns it? (assuming you do not crush it or total it out, it will belong to someone else some day). How will they know it's a remade tag?

Just some things to think about and my 2 cents for what that's worth....
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

Troy

There's a pretty good decoder on andy440.com but it doesn't go into detail about what each option consisted of, what it was available on, or what was standard vs optional. Of course, that's why sites like this exist - so people can share information learned over the years. As far as I know, Mopar hasn't released a comprehensive guide to deciphering their codes (for any year).

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

Magnumcharger

Quote from: 69CoronetRT on January 20, 2007, 01:04:01 PM
Quote from: Magnumcharger on January 18, 2007, 09:32:50 PM
I'm getting a tag made for my Charger, to replace one that's been AWOL since I've owned it.
I have a basic outline of the body option codes, but it doesn't give enough information.

Anybody have anything more inclusive?

I assume you know remade tags are a controversial topic to begin with.

Do you have the invoice, broadcast sheet or window sticker? Have you taken into account plant variations of coding? How will you be able to 'prove' the options on the tag if questioned? Are you prepared to take some flak from some people that do not approve of remade tags? What will be your response? Will the tag stay with the car when the next person owns it? (assuming you do not crush it or total it out, it will belong to someone else some day). How will they know it's a remade tag?

Just some things to think about and my 2 cents for what that's worth....

I hear ya.
I guess I should respond to this.
If I had an invoice, broadcast sheet or window sticker, I probably wouldn't the need to ask anybody for assistance, as I'd have all the answers laid right out in front of me.

That being said, my car wasn't one of the select few that were babied by it's first owner, then lovingly handed off to the next with a list of how to take care of their prized possesion. - Far from it -.
My Charger R/T was one of the ones that was left outside all year round, rusted out, had the interior completely trashed and had it's original driveline blown away long before I ever laid eyes on it.
Like a proud Papa, I credit my Charger with having contributed it's fair share to the "Charger mystique", that being the awesome car you see depicted in movies and old photos where the car is the prop in a scene from many long haired -dope smoking, tire-hazing summers of cruzin' for the fairer sex, endless parties and frequent street races.

My car was a "survivor" in a completely different sense of the word.

I dreamed of having a car like this ever since I first laid eyes on one, back when they were new. It took me until I was 29 to get one, and I'm 44 now. I've spent 16 years in the process of restoring it to be the car I've always wanted, - numbers matching be damned.
And if I want to put a data tag on it that says it came equiped with a Saturn V rocket, it's my perogitive.
And no....it isn't for sale, and won't be as long as I breathe.
When I die with the Charger still in my garage, then I hope the next person to own it has the sense to do with it whatever he/she pleases, and if they chose to get ANOTHER tag made with whatever they want on it, they can do so.
My two cents.
Thank-you, and good night Gracie.
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

Troy

I knew a guy who had a friend whose dad had the only Saturn V powered GTX built. He says they never offered it as an option in a Charger... ;)

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

Magnumcharger

Quote from: Troy on January 20, 2007, 07:11:33 PM
I knew a guy who had a friend whose dad had the only Saturn V powered GTX built. He says they never offered it as an option in a Charger... ;)

Troy


I have it on good authority that the Saturn V was not avaliable with the cruise-control or sun roof packages.

It appears the Andy440.com link may well have all the data I was searching for! So THANKS!
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

69CoronetRT

Quote from: Magnumcharger on January 20, 2007, 06:45:54 PM
Quote from: 69CoronetRT on January 20, 2007, 01:04:01 PM
Quote from: Magnumcharger on January 18, 2007, 09:32:50 PM
I'm getting a tag made for my Charger, to replace one that's been AWOL since I've owned it.
I have a basic outline of the body option codes, but it doesn't give enough information.

Anybody have anything more inclusive?

I assume you know remade tags are a controversial topic to begin with.

Do you have the invoice, broadcast sheet or window sticker? Have you taken into account plant variations of coding? How will you be able to 'prove' the options on the tag if questioned? Are you prepared to take some flak from some people that do not approve of remade tags? What will be your response? Will the tag stay with the car when the next person owns it? (assuming you do not crush it or total it out, it will belong to someone else some day). How will they know it's a remade tag?

Just some things to think about and my 2 cents for what that's worth....

I hear ya.
I guess I should respond to this.
If I had an invoice, broadcast sheet or wondow sticker, I probably wouldn't the need to ask anybody for assistance, as I'd have all the answers laid right out in front of me.


You asked for assistance, I'm actually trying to help...

Yes, you would need still need some help as different plants coded differently and some codes came and went through the year. I assume if you want a tag you want the most correct possible or you wouldn't have asked for help. If you just wanted to throw some codes on there, which many people do, you would just tell the tag maker what was on the car and they would make a, probably, incorrect tag.

I'm just suggesting that if you really want to follow through with having one made, do your homework first and find as many examples as you can from the same plant and with a similar SPD. Don't rely on the tag makers to do it for you as they pump out wrong tags all the time. The info on Andy's site is helpful to a point but may not be specific to your car/plant.

again...do what you want...just my 2 cents
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

JimShine

There are items you will never nail. like the correct tire code, or the the production date. To me, the tag on a '68 is way too important in joining of the VIN to the body stamps to accept a repop tag. There are too many unknowns as well. it was not at all uncommon for options to be added or deleted over the years. Hood mounted signals added, passenger side mirrors added, parts changed like wheels, glass, interior items, etc. The tag is there to verify the cars options when it left the factory, not document its current status.

Magnumcharger

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The tag is there to verify the cars options when it left the factory, not document its current status.

My point exactly. I've been doing my homework on this tag for quite awhile now, and I've managed to come up with pretty well everything I've been looking for to complete my tag, as I want it. The icing on the cake is the Andy440.com website, and it's information.
I'm not out to pull the wool over anybody's eyes. That being said, more power to you if you can actually look at a 1968-era tag and tell hide-nor-hair about it.
And - who rightly can say what options were added after the fact?

Which brings me to my offer: anybody who has a picture of their 1968 Charger option tag, feel free to post it, so we can all see how it was actually done!
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed

Troy

I'm going to have one made that reads:
THIS TINY METAL TAG
COVERS WHAT IS LEFT
OF THE LAST PERSON
WHO QUESTIONED IT

Of course, all mine have tags so I'll need to buy another Charger without one... :P

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

JimShine

Quote from: Magnumcharger on January 21, 2007, 11:12:29 PM
Quote
The tag is there to verify the cars options when it left the factory, not document its current status.

My point exactly. I've been doing my homework on this tag for quite awhile now, and I've managed to come up with pretty well everything I've been looking for to complete my tag, as I want it. The icing on the cake is the Andy440.com website, and it's information.
I'm not out to pull the wool over anybody's eyes. That being said, more power to you if you can actually look at a 1968-era tag and tell hide-nor-hair about it.
And - who rightly can say what options were added after the fact?

Which brings me to my offer: anybody who has a picture of their 1968 Charger option tag, feel free to post it, so we can all see how it was actually done!

Every point you made justifies not doing one. The way you want it? Who knows what options were added after the fact? Both solid reasons not to make a plate with so much missing documentation. What is the point of having a plate that is most likely false in some way, if not many ways? What is the gain by making this bogus tag? Eye candy? I wonder this because it would not add any value or credibility to the car if one is to  upfront about how it was created.

69CoronetRT

Quote from: JimShine on January 22, 2007, 12:57:03 AM
Quote from: Magnumcharger on January 21, 2007, 11:12:29 PM
Quote
The tag is there to verify the cars options when it left the factory, not document its current status.

My point exactly. I've been doing my homework on this tag for quite awhile now, and I've managed to come up with pretty well everything I've been looking for to complete my tag, as I want it. The icing on the cake is the Andy440.com website, and it's information.
I'm not out to pull the wool over anybody's eyes. That being said, more power to you if you can actually look at a 1968-era tag and tell hide-nor-hair about it.
And - who rightly can say what options were added after the fact?

Which brings me to my offer: anybody who has a picture of their 1968 Charger option tag, feel free to post it, so we can all see how it was actually done!

Every point you made justifies not doing one. The way you want it? Who knows what options were added after the fact? Both solid reasons not to make a plate with so much missing documentation. What is the point of having a plate that is most likely false in some way, if not many ways? What is the gain by making this bogus tag? Eye candy? I wonder this because it would not add any value or credibility to the car if one is to  upfront about how it was created.

:iagree:

QuoteThat being said, more power to you if you can actually look at a 1968-era tag and tell hide-nor-hair about it.
There are those that can tell the difference between legit and remade tags and what is and is not correct for that year and plant and even time period of the year.

QuoteWhich brings me to my offer: anybody who has a picture of their 1968 Charger option tag, feel free to post it, so we can all see how it was actually done!
Did Hamtramck and STL built cars code exactly the same? I don't know about 68 but they sure didn't for 69. Each plant has it's own nuances to the tag.

If you ABSOLUTELY have to have one; no one can stop you. All I'm just saying slow down and take the time to get it right or be prepared for the comments regarding fake/counterfeit/bogus/remade tags and the questions they bring.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

69CoronetRT

Quote from: Magnumcharger on January 21, 2007, 11:12:29 PM
Quote
The tag is there to verify the cars options when it left the factory, not document its current status.

That being said, more power to you if you can actually look at a 1968-era tag and tell hide-nor-hair about it.

Some people can. Is this tag an original or a poorly made fake?
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

Magnumcharger

I wish to thank you all for your input.
I will take it under advisement.
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula S 340 convertible
1968 Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi 4 speed
1968 Plymouth Barracuda S/S clone 426 Hemi auto
1969 Dodge Deora pickup clone 318 auto
1971 Dodge Charger R/T 440 auto
1972 Dodge C600 318 4 speed ramp truck
1972 Dodge C800 413 5 speed
1979 Chrysler 300 T-top 360 auto
2001 Dodge RAM Sport Offroad 360 auto
2010 Dodge Challenger R/T 6 speed
2014 RAM Laramie 5.7 Hemi 8 speed