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good 400 castings?

Started by Bandit72, December 31, 2006, 03:08:55 PM

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Bandit72

i remember hearing something about certain 72 400 blocks being excellent stroker blocks because of thicker main castings or somethign llike that, can someone plz shed some light on this for me

thanks Ryan Olson
Daddy ran whiskey in a big black dodge
bought it at an auction at the masons lodge,
Johnson County Sherriff painted on the side,
just shot a coat of primer then he looked inside,
well him and my uncle tore that engine down,
I still remember that rumblin' sound.....

firefighter3931

Ryan, the 230 "cold weather" casting is generally considered the best stroker 400 block. I believe they were a 1 year casting (1971) but don't quote me on that. Fwiw, any block should be sonic checked to make sure there are no thin spots in the cylinder walls, especially when a stroker is being contemplated.  ;)


Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

John_Kunkel


The thick main 400 blocks will have casting dates between April and October of 1971 and will have a casting number that ends in "230". Also, the numerals in block casting number will be noticeably larger than the other 400's.
Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

Challenger340

I like the 230 Blocks !

I've been using them with great reliability in my 500" lowdeck strokers. They hang in there very well, at over 700 horsepower with a girdle.

Quote from: firefighter3931 on December 31, 2006, 03:52:34 PM
Ryan, the 230 "cold weather" casting is generally considered the best stroker 400 block. I believe they were a 1 year casting (1971) but don't quote me on that. Fwiw, any block should be sonic checked to make sure there are no thin spots in the cylinder walls, especially when a stroker is being contemplated. ;)


Ron
Very good advice !   Especially the 440 blocks.
Only wimps wear Bowties !

Bandit72

my block number is 3614230-4
Daddy ran whiskey in a big black dodge
bought it at an auction at the masons lodge,
Johnson County Sherriff painted on the side,
just shot a coat of primer then he looked inside,
well him and my uncle tore that engine down,
I still remember that rumblin' sound.....

chargerbr549

We have sonic tested about four 400 blocks lately with casting dates between 74-78, three of them were standard bore and had thin spots between .060-.070 thousanths thick where the cylinders are the closest to each other around the middle of the cylinder and one that was bored .040 over was only about .030 thousanths thick, is this the norm on the later blocks and does anybody know generally what the 72 "230" block thickness generally is?

Kevin

Challenger340

Quote from: chargerbr549 on January 01, 2007, 03:39:37 AM
We have sonic tested about four 400 blocks lately with casting dates between 74-78, three of them were standard bore and had thin spots between .060-.070 thousanths thick where the cylinders are the closest to each other around the middle of the cylinder and one that was bored .040 over was only about .030 thousanths thick, is this the norm on the later blocks and does anybody know generally what the 72 "230" block thickness generally is?

Kevin

WOW Kevin ! Thats getting a little thin !  YIKES ! 
The thinnest I found was .107" on one cylinder, minor thrust side, near the cylinder bottom.
I remember THAT .107" number, because I stopped, went and "re-zero'd" my machine, and came up the same ! I've seen lots that hover around .140", or slightly lower on minor areas.

I personally, haven't found the later blocks, to be any thinner than any of the earlier blocks, and sometimes they are just as thick, or, thicker !
I had one '76 400 block that was .280-.300" on all major thrust sides, and carried no less than .220 everywhere else. It was a "gooder" !

Conversely, we had a 230 block that was a "pooper", and we filled it 1/2 way up the water jackets. But that was for a Drag application, so no cooling concerns between rounds.

I dunno Kevin, I can't generalize Cylinder thickness's according to year, or Block casting.
For me, it seems to be a crap shoot !

If I were to "generalize", my experience would be that I find MORE thin spots on early 440 blocks, pre 1973. Probably due to the increased deck height and "longer" unsupported Cylinder walls.

Can anybody else chime in here with some thickness's you've found ?  What to watch out for in blocks ?

Only wimps wear Bowties !

RD

67 Plymouth Barracuda, 69 Plymouth Barracuda, 73 Charger SE, 75 D100, 80 Sno-Commander

Bandit72

Daddy ran whiskey in a big black dodge
bought it at an auction at the masons lodge,
Johnson County Sherriff painted on the side,
just shot a coat of primer then he looked inside,
well him and my uncle tore that engine down,
I still remember that rumblin' sound.....