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The first '69 Charger?

Started by hemi68charger, December 29, 2006, 08:10:42 PM

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Charger_Fan

Quote from: Just 6T9_CHGR.... on December 30, 2006, 06:44:34 AM

The rad support stamping is indeed odd.... along with the "B8" which designates B for the Hamtramck plant and 8 as the model year 1968... notice the extra character of the letter "X" in there....
Looks like they may have started off stamping it like the rest of the 68's, with the B8X...then changed to a sequential number for the 2nd half, sorta '69 style? :ahum:

Here's a couple '68 pics I found in a couple of Dan's (8Wheeler) past posts.



The Aquamax...yes, this bike spent 2 nights underwater one weekend. (Not my doing), but it gained the name, and has since become pseudo-famous. :)

C500

"An aggressive exterior with power to match was enough to pull in the performance boys-especially when abetted by a pair of pipes blaring out the back, and brawny red-sidewall rubber hitting the pavement."  

"........the four speed box changes cogs with the precision of a sharp axe striking soft pine."

tan top

Quote from: tan top on December 30, 2006, 02:13:46 PM
Troy there is another ad witch shows a R6 -69 charger R/T  it is a close up of the front end , taken at daytona raceway. thought i had this one saved.  but can't find it . i don't think that car had headrests by memory :scratchchin:
                     can't find the color picture version  at the moment
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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UFO

Here ya go

tan top

Quote from: UFO on December 30, 2006, 07:12:38 PM
Here ya go
 

      :yesnod: thats the one  , thanks (UFO) appreciated . :2thumbs:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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UFO

Upon looking through my road test stash,I found one so far with dual mirrors.No mention in the text about color.The int and engine comp photos are not in line with #39 car.Mag issue date is jan 69.When actual test was done? who knows.

DC_1

Anyone have any pics of 100039 in its current state?....I remember it on Ebay but I didn't save any pics.

hemi68charger

Quote from: Sydmoe on December 30, 2006, 08:10:35 PM
Anyone have any pics of 100039 in its current state?....I remember it on Ebay but I didn't save any pics.

Pretty much the same.. I was over there on Friday and looked it over quite extensively.. I'm going to lend a helping hand with the restoration....  He hasn't really started anything since he bought it because he's been working on other projects....

UFO:
You are correct, the car in the article you mentioned isn't his car.. The 39 car had a black vinyl top...........

Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

Just 6T9 CHGR

Also not coded for the M25 wide sill moldings.....
Looking at the 440 gift wrapped ad you'll notice the lack of headrests....again maybe they were taken out to show the "Daytona" wording through the glass

I wouldnt discount this being the actual car in the ads because of the mirror thing....who knows....maybe they decided to leave the mirror off for photogenic properties?.....door holes can be easilly touched up in the photos.

Bottom line this Charger is one of the first and will be a killer ride when completed :thumbs:
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


hemi68charger

Quote from: Just 6T9_CHGR.... on December 30, 2006, 06:44:34 AM
The VIN designation of 100039 means it was the 39th vehicle built at the Hamtramck plant for the '69 model year....they also built Darts at the plant that year......100038 could have been a Dart...
The VIN#'s each year start at 100001 at each plant

Since they built Chargers at both the Hamtramck, MI plant and the St. Louis, MO plant in 1969 it is possible (and I have both cars in the registry) that you can have 2 cars with the same last 6 digits of the VIN#!........One car is a 318 XP model and the other is a 440 R/T model.....built at different plants but coincendently rolled down the line with the same last 6 of the VIN#

The rad support stamping is indeed odd.... along with the "B8" which designates B for the Hamtramck plant and 8 as the model year 1968... notice the extra character of the letter "X" in there....

Chris,
I'm almost postive the "X" stands for the Charger model line.. If you reference this page, http://www.andy440.com/other.htm you'll notice the discussion on the core support of the blue Coronet and the "X" is replaced with a "W" which stands for Coronet model line...
Soooo, the B8X is Assembly plant, model year, and model line........  Taadaaaaaa
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

tan top

Quote from: 69_500 on December 30, 2006, 02:16:58 PM
Since were on the topic, what about the T5 bronze HEMI that isn't an R/T? Anyone have any answers on that one?
   
             i believe there was a divided opinion on that car in the last thread  by memory   . found a clearer photo .   to me you can defiantly see  part of the (HEMI) trans cooler line & the brass block connector .   tried to find the other thread on this but  no go . :icon_smile_sad:
 ( hemi68charger )  Troy  not trying to hijack your thread  by posting this photo ,
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

hemi68charger

Quote from: tan top on December 31, 2006, 06:08:29 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on December 30, 2006, 02:16:58 PM
Since were on the topic, what about the T5 bronze HEMI that isn't an R/T? Anyone have any answers on that one?
i believe there was a divided opinion on that car in the last thread  by memory   . found a clearer photo .   to me you can defiantly see  part of the (HEMI) trans cooler line & the brass block connector .   tried to find the other thread on this but  no go . :icon_smile_sad:
( hemi68charger )  Troy  not trying to hijack your thread  by posting this photo ,

Nope, I like the sidenote....... Notice the dash pad? It's a '68 version which gives validation that Tim's 00039 car has the correct pad....

Troy
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

pettyfan43

Most likely these cars are not prototypes so much as Pilot cars, cars built at the very beginning of a production run and used to evaluate parts changes, Some stuff may not have been finalized when the cars are put together. This may be the reason they have the 68 dash and such.

I do know that there was a running production change on some parts, like the shifter knobs on floor shift automatic cars, early cars had the chrome knob, later cars had the 70 style woodgrain ones. There was also a change on the front bumper guards from short to tall.

Either way the cars are VERY VOOL, I have a BUNCH of ads with both cars. That red car has always been a VERY cool car to me, Even built a model of it!

hemi68charger

Quote from: tan top on December 31, 2006, 06:08:29 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on December 30, 2006, 02:16:58 PM
Since were on the topic, what about the T5 bronze HEMI that isn't an R/T? Anyone have any answers on that one?
i believe there was a divided opinion on that car in the last thread  by memory   . found a clearer photo .   to me you can defiantly see  part of the (HEMI) trans cooler line & the brass block connector .   tried to find the other thread on this but  no go . :icon_smile_sad:
( hemi68charger )  Troy  not trying to hijack your thread  by posting this photo ,

Also note the 14" wheels on that T5 hemi Charger.. Production version came standard with 15"'s and I fairly confident those full-wheel covers are 14"..

Troy
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

tan top

Quote from: hemi68charger on January 01, 2007, 03:45:37 PM
Quote from: tan top on December 31, 2006, 06:08:29 PM
Quote from: 69_500 on December 30, 2006, 02:16:58 PM
Since were on the topic, what about the T5 bronze HEMI that isn't an R/T? Anyone have any answers on that one?
   
             i believe there was a divided opinion on that car in the last thread  by memory   . found a clearer photo .   to me you can defiantly see  part of the (HEMI) trans cooler line & the brass block connector .   tried to find the other thread on this but  no go . :icon_smile_sad:
( hemi68charger )  Troy  not trying to hijack your thread  by posting this photo ,

Also note the 14" wheels on that T5 hemi Charger.. Production version came standard with 15"'s and I fairly confident those full-wheel covers are 14"..

Troy
                :iagree:      :yesnod:  look like 14" to me too , i think  unless  we can dig up some other pictures / info on this  69 XP29 HEMI car  , it  could stay another one of Chrysler's mysteries lost in time  .
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

UFO

In regards to T5 hemi XP car,Yes those wheelcovers are 14".In addition to the two photos in the charger registry,I have a different one with a brunette leaning against the pass. side fender.The car seems to be only in promo shots.Was it a real hemi car?sure its possible.There is a documented `70 base model charger with a hemi(serial number is 0001).Which ironicily has a lot of `69 items on it.

tan top

Quote from: UFO on January 01, 2007, 04:38:20 PM
In regards to T5 hemi XP car,Yes those wheelcovers are 14".In addition to the two photos in the charger registry,I have a different one with a brunette leaning against the pass. side fender.The car seems to be only in promo shots.Was it a real hemi car?sure its possible.There is a documented `70 base model charger with a hemi(serial number is 0001).Which ironicily has a lot of `69 items on it.
:yesnod:    yeah that  if i remember correctly  the vin was XP29ROG100001  & EW1 white  or something . (UFO)  there is another  picture of that  69 XP HEMI car taken at a slightly different angle out there somewhere, pretty sure you can just make out the bottom of the drivers side rear torque box :scratchchin:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

Ghoste

Maybe the T5 XP is actually an RT that didn't get the correct headlight door and wheels?  Have we ever considered that?

dkn1997

Quote from: UFO on December 30, 2006, 08:04:23 PM
Upon looking through my road test stash,I found one so far with dual mirrors.No mention in the text about color.The int and engine comp photos are not in line with #39 car.Mag issue date is jan 69.When actual test was done? who knows.

I love that writeup:  not enough trunk or backseat room...if those guys could ride in some of today's cars, they would see how good they had it. and those huge F70's really help the handling.  amazing how perspective changes with the times. 

and "lack of a horn ring" annoying?
RECHRGED

hemi68charger

Another picture showing the famous '1st C500, '68 body with '69 taillamps/reverse lamps......  I see the '68-style dash pad.


Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

hemi68charger

Quote from: Just 6T9_CHGR.... on December 31, 2006, 06:44:30 AM
Also not coded for the M25 wide sill moldings.....
Looking at the 440 gift wrapped ad you'll notice the lack of headrests....again maybe they were taken out to show the "Daytona" wording through the glass

I wouldnt discount this being the actual car in the ads because of the mirror thing....who knows....maybe they decided to leave the mirror off for photogenic properties?.....door holes can be easilly touched up in the photos.

Bottom line this Charger is one of the first and will be a killer ride when completed :thumbs:

Still pretty much looks like that except much more bolted back together for transportation......

Troy
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

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MOPAR OR NOCAR
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Damn blue oval

DC_1


ChargerHound69

I knew I should have bought that car when I had the chance.

Post some pictures when you get a chance.

THE CHARGER PUNK

Whatever happend to this car that was mocked up as a daytona?-MATT