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Ok, need help with what is incorrect in my engine compartment

Started by resq302, December 27, 2006, 08:34:37 PM

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Quote from: y3chargerrt on December 28, 2006, 09:37:48 AM
The oil presure sending unit and pcv valve were installed prior to engine painting.They should be engine color. Same with the temp sending unit.
                       :iagree: :yesnod:

( resq302 )  you might very well be right about about the bumper brackets   :yesnod:  , only going by mine on this one , no traces of black  just  some small patches of surface rust , and bare steel on the frame rail side  :shruggy: . not the first time i have found discrepancy's on mine , compared to other cars.
  thats cool , :yesnod: the clear plastic stud protector was a 68 deal only  it has been said to me by a few guys that early 69's had them also only  :rotz:  ,  don't need to get one now .
the wire strap for the horn wiring , i have seen the white strap type  , and i am currently using one . but i am 99.99% sure there is  a special one for this purpose . i've seen one on a original car years  ago  black  in color.   can't really remember what shape it was  . i just thought  Hmmm... thats what goes there from the factory then , this was more that 15 years ago , long before i done a resto on mine . not sure if it was like  a single  fixing white strap type  or the head light harness type . but like i said pretty sure it was different.  the vacuum pod -i am only going what i found on  mine  again , witch  i know had never been apart ( 63000) original miles  , untill i  took it a part .   all so just noticed  you are missing two of these wire clamps. one each side  . to be honest i have seen original  chargers with different combinations of the vacuum tree , i think it might be do to  with  A/C - cruse control - what manufacture the brake booster was &  what was available on the assembly line . just my theory  most probably wrong on this one though . found these two  pitcures on ebay just now  , 
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gtx6970

ignition coil should have green lettering
C-body drivers side valve cover
exhaust manifolds should have at the very least remnents of engine color on them near the head
master cyl, and ck valve are all GLOSS black (the 60's version not todays version of gloss black)
carb and it's  linkages  looks painted
throttle cable brkt looks like 2 barrel brkt ??????
PCV and grommet both should be engine color .remove the sheetmetal nut off of it btw
No clamps of any kind are / should be on the pcv valve hose
Yes, the firewall stud should have the plastic cap ( AFAIK)
Power steering filler cap should be black like the pump
Ballast resistor should have the metal strap mounting . If it's converted to electronic hide the functional one and mount an original style there.and it's mounted to low. should be up near the firewall ground

my  :Twocents:

The rubber dipped heater hose brkt on the inner fender is A/C cars only ( again afaik)

resq302

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That vacuum hose/wire harness retainer I have seen on some cars and other cars have the hole but do not have the bracket.  I have talked to some original owners who swear that the mentioned bracket was never on their car.  Again, who knows.  Could have been a plant specific item that they installed versus my Hamtramk assembly plant.
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

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Quote from: resq302 on December 28, 2006, 04:25:51 PM
Tan,

That vacuum hose/wire harness retainer I have seen on some cars and other cars have the hole but do not have the bracket. I have talked to some original owners who swear that the mentioned bracket was never on their car. Again, who knows. Could have been a plant specific item that they installed versus my Hamtramk assembly plant.
:scratchchin:   :yesnod:  could well be some thing like that or who ever was assembling them on that shift .  mine has them  one each side , with a  (SPD ) of  november 22nd   68  at   Hamtramck   :shruggy:   probably another one of those Chrysler mysteries
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

resq302

My charger was built May 9th of 69 at the Hamtramk Plant.  Lots of time for them to change stuff around. :shruggy:
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

69fuchs

you need a 4 speed throttle cable stud on the carburetor.  They are shorter than the automatics.

Just 6T9 CHGR

Brian, in  addition to all that has been said...you still have the automatic transmission style carb throttle cable stud.....the 4 speed version is shorter (see pic)


Also I believe the upper control arm adjusters (bolt, cam plates & nuts were left natural, not black)
Strangely, I think your hole for your tach wire is in the wrong place???   All I have seen are below the vac hose grommet on the fire wall, not to the left of it.... 
Hey---wheres your firewall wire harness clips ;)


All in all I must say to quote a famous womans cigarette...."you've come a long way baby!" :cheers:
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


Just 6T9 CHGR

Quote from: 69fuchs on December 28, 2006, 08:37:42 PM
you need a 4 speed throttle cable stud on the carburetor. They are shorter than the automatics.
Sweet!  You beat me to it while I was searching my PC for a pic :cheers:
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


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Horn attaching bolts should they be black,i thought a silver colour?.

Nice car
Steve
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resq302

Thanks Steve, but from what I have seen on an original 70 RT charger in Denville, NJ, his was a olive green / blackish color when he removed them and we looked at the side that was up against the horn bracket that would not have been exposed to the weather.

Chris,  as for the upper control arm adjustment cams, they are painted zinc phosphate which is a grayish black (slightly darker than cast iron)color as the originals were supposedly treated, not left bare metal.  Again, this was the color on the inside of them when I removed them when I did the front suspension last year prior to the lift incident.  Thanks for reminding me about the throttle cable stud.  I forgot to chop that thing off last year.  Note to self.....snip the tip of the stud.
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

gtx6970

horn bolts and upper alignment cams were dark grey/ black  phosphate. Color will very widely due to the age of the actuall plating solution