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ENGINE IN FROM UNDERNEATH 70 R/T LOTSA PICS

Started by Charger-Bodie, December 23, 2006, 04:25:12 PM

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Charger-Bodie

here it is
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

Charger-Bodie

4 more
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

Charger-Bodie

last 2 if you have ?s id be glad to answer otherwise i think its pretty self explanitory
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

Dodge Don

Pictures are a tad fuzzy but you can get the sense of it. Thanks for sharing.

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: Dodge Don on December 23, 2006, 04:45:40 PM
Pictures are a tad fuzzy but you can get the sense of it. Thanks for sharing.

ya and it p!$$&$ me off but thats what ive got so i guess
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

tan top

Quote from: 1hot68 on December 23, 2006, 04:47:11 PM
Quote from: Dodge Don on December 23, 2006, 04:45:40 PM
Pictures are a tad fuzzy but you can get the sense of it. Thanks for sharing.

ya and it p!$$&$ me off but thats what ive got so i guess
                you can see :scope:  enough though , nice  looking charger  .. good job :2thumbs:
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TripleBlackGator

Either you need glasses or lessons in photography! CHRIST! I would really like to see these pictures. (Key word being "SEE".)
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Quote from: TripleBlackGator on December 23, 2006, 05:40:52 PM
Either you need glasses or lessons in photography! CHRIST! I would really like to see these pictures. (Key word being "SEE".)

::) Wonder what his problem is...

The car looks great! Pics are a bit fuzzy but I have seen worse at least you can still make out what it is.

Arthur
Striving for world domination since 1986

Orange_Crush

Man ...those pics looklike they were taken by a blind epileptic having a heart attack...the car looks good though....took a fifth of bourbon for me to see it clearly.
I ain't got time for pain, the only pain I got time for is the pain i put on fools how don't know what time it is.

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: Orange_Crush on December 23, 2006, 06:28:58 PM
Man ...those pics looklike they were taken by a blind epileptic having a heart attack...the car looks good though....took a fifth of bourbon for me to see it clearly.

im glad i gave you a reason to party!! ;D ;D ;D :cheers: :cheers:
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

Charger_Fan

That looks good, seems to have gone together quite easily. :thumbs:
I had a chance a to get one of those scissor lifts a couple weeks ago...I wasn't sure how well it would work with a Charger. I guess I know now. :brickwall:

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Charger-Bodie

here are some of the car that arent so fuzzy
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

Lostsheep_01

69 Charger 383
MoPar.  You're either with us or behind us!

TripleBlackGator

Ahhhhh. Much better. Keep posting new pictures.  :punkrocka:
Malicious, vindictive, spiteful, cynical, pessimistic, sarcastic, & antagonistic. And those are my good traits!

Blakcharger440

That is a nice car 1hot68! Good job! Cant wait to see it all finished!  :yesnod:

69fuchs

them there iowans do everything backwords!!!!  who puts an engine in from the bottom anyways??? :P 

Seriously that is one sweet 70 rt.  All it really needs is MY name on the title.  Brian, what was that you were saying about laser optical surgery?  Will that correct blurry pictures as well?

Orange_Crush

I ain't got time for pain, the only pain I got time for is the pain i put on fools how don't know what time it is.

R2

Nice,,,,,What kind of jack is that under the car ?? that supports the whole car like that ?
Nice JOB........cool car.

rt green

the  pictures werent fuzzy. just do what i did, take your glasses off. then there clear as a bell. ha!   how was putting in the torsion bars in  useing that hoist?  is it your shop? i always thought having  one of those low lift hoists would be cool,  but what is your opinion on them?               so many unanswered questions in life
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The70RT

Pics are great! I :drool5: enough on those. That gives me the invision of hopefully how mine will look when done. Mine is just like yours but with white int. & top.
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Charger-Bodie

Quote from: The70RT on December 25, 2006, 10:21:06 AM
Pics are great! I :drool5: enough on those. That gives me the invision of hopefully how mine will look when done. Mine is just like yours but with white int. & top.

its even suposed to have the same stripe!!
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

bandit67

Thanks for sharing, Hot 68, looks awesome.  Mopar noob here with some questions, if you care to answer. Is this the way the factory installed them originally?   I see you had the complete , or what seems to be complete front end suspension attached. Was the steering box also attached?  So with the upper A arms attached, basically, you had the four bolts for the K member, four bolts for the upper A arms, steering column  to steering box, and torsion bars to bolt to the car..........is that close to being right.  I would assume that the tranny , complete with lines or shifter , would have been attached, and then just tranny crossmember and drivehaft would be left to hook up..........thanks, and what a fabulous job you have done..........John

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: bandit67 on December 25, 2006, 11:44:19 AM
Thanks for sharing, Hot 68, looks awesome.  Mopar noob here with some questions, if you care to answer. Is this the way the factory installed them originally?   I see you had the complete , or what seems to be complete front end suspension attached. Was the steering box also attached?  So with the upper A arms attached, basically, you had the four bolts for the K member, four bolts for the upper A arms, steering column  to steering box, and torsion bars to bolt to the car..........is that close to being right.  I would assume that the tranny , complete with lines or shifter , would have been attached, and then just tranny crossmember and drivehaft would be left to hook up..........thanks, and what a fabulous job you have done..........John

you are correct on all counts

you can break the susp any way you want reall and yes the manifolds were on tranny ,lines, starter ,all the stuff thats a pain in the arse when its in the car is done easy and yes the factory did it very similer to this
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

bull

Quote from: 69fuchs on December 24, 2006, 05:49:38 PM
them there iowans do everything backwords!!!!  who puts an engine in from the bottom anyways??? :P 

The factory.

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: rt green on December 25, 2006, 09:59:06 AM
the  pictures werent fuzzy. just do what i did, take your glasses off. then there clear as a bell. ha!   how was putting in the torsion bars in  useing that hoist?  is it your shop? i always thought having  one of those low lift hoists would be cool,  but what is your opinion on them?               so many unanswered questions in life

the hoist isnt in the way at all for any of the process with the eception of the drive shaft and the exhaust ....it dont hit them or anything just not room to install them with this hoist we usually just put the car on 4 jack stands for that the hoist is a snap on and it works very well for alot of thing and when theres not a car on it you can move it all arountd and by the way yes that is my shop.
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

HeavyFuel

Wow, very slick.  I'll have to look into that when I get to that piont.  Everything will be done by the time mine gets out of the body shop.

69fuchs

Quote from: bull on December 25, 2006, 02:02:08 PM
Quote from: 69fuchs on December 24, 2006, 05:49:38 PM
them there iowans do everything backwords!!!!  who puts an engine in from the bottom anyways??? :P 

The factory.

NO WAY!!!  U GOTTA BE KIDDN ME!!!!   And all this time I thought it was Iowans.  I guess the factory did things backwords too.   :image_294343:

hemi68charger

Man, bad luck on the pics......... Thanks for sharing.... I'll be doing that with my '68.......

Troy
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
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Charger-Bodie

Quote from: hemi68charger on December 25, 2006, 08:55:25 PM
Man, bad luck on the pics......... Thanks for sharing.... I'll be doing that with my '68.......

Troy

just to let you know you have to have the valve covers off on hemis to put them in from underneath
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

AKcharger


Charger-Bodie

Quote from: AKcharger on December 25, 2006, 09:09:45 PM
Did you encounter any snags or problems?

no we didnt but this is the 18th one weve done this way!!
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

Khyron

hehe I love seeing engines go in from the bottom, That picture makes my day :2thumbs:


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AKcharger

Well that's what I plan to do on rebuilt #2 in a few years....Hey I ws thinking, I bet it's easy to adjust the hood alignment...you can get to the bolts from inside without the engine right?

bull

Quote from: 69fuchs on December 25, 2006, 07:51:54 PM
Quote from: bull on December 25, 2006, 02:02:08 PM
Quote from: 69fuchs on December 24, 2006, 05:49:38 PM
them there iowans do everything backwords!!!!  who puts an engine in from the bottom anyways??? :P 

The factory.

I guess the factory did things backwords too.   :image_294343:

Nope, it's you. Everything else looks backwards when you're the only one doing things backwards. ;)

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: Khyron on December 25, 2006, 10:33:54 PM
hehe I love seeing engines go in from the bottom, That picture makes my day :2thumbs:

yea thats my cousin he is my partner in the shop ....as you can tell he was pretty happy to be in the picture :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_evil: :icon_smile_evil:
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

tan top

that  69 HEMI  charger   , is that a genuine J code  :scope: ?  looks good   :yesnod:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
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Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
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Charger-Bodie

Quote from: tan top on December 26, 2006, 08:44:43 AM
that  69 HEMI  charger   , is that a genuine J code  :scope: ?  looks good   :yesnod:

its the real deal and completely numbers matching ta boot .....too bad it was a customer car and not mine
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

hemi68charger

Quote from: 1hot68 on December 26, 2006, 09:08:23 AM
Quote from: tan top on December 26, 2006, 08:44:43 AM
that  69 HEMI  charger   , is that a genuine J code  :scope: ?  looks good   :yesnod:

its the real deal and completely numbers matching ta boot .....too bad it was a customer car and not mine

Damn,,, a B5 4-speed '69 Hemi Charger R/T.. My dream car other than a Daytona.........  Yes, even my turquoise hemi '68.....   ;D

Larry,,, Thanks for the tidbit....... I would have put them on.. Sooooooooo, I guess it'll be the engine, then the valve covers, THEN the power brake booster assembly... Did you have the offset bracket on first, then install the actual booster after you have the motor/k-member bolted in?

Troy
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

hemi68charger

Quote from: 472 R/T SE on December 26, 2006, 08:48:14 AM
Quote from: AKcharger on December 25, 2006, 11:42:54 PM
Hey I ws thinking, I bet it's easy to adjust the hood alignment...you can get to the bolts from inside without the engine right?

You can even fit a wheelchair in the fenderwells, that is if you need something to sit on.  ;D



Wow, it's like a Jack-in-the-box..... But in this case,  a Mike-in-the-box.......  ;D
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

69fuchs

Quote from: bull on December 26, 2006, 02:33:32 AM
Quote from: 69fuchs on December 25, 2006, 07:51:54 PM
Quote from: bull on December 25, 2006, 02:02:08 PM
Quote from: 69fuchs on December 24, 2006, 05:49:38 PM
them there iowans do everything backwords!!!!  who puts an engine in from the bottom anyways??? :P 

The factory.

I guess the factory did things backwords too.   :image_294343:

Nope, it's you. Everything else looks backwards when you're the only one doing things backwards. ;)


Ok, Now I feel left out.  Brian, will you lend me your factory so that I can put my engine in the correct way pleeeeaaaaassssseeeee?  I just don't understand I guess.

  I did change a bent K frame without removing the engine once, does that count????

Challenger340

Only wimps wear Bowties !

tan top

Quote from: 1hot68 on December 26, 2006, 09:08:23 AM
Quote from: tan top on December 26, 2006, 08:44:43 AM
that  69 HEMI  charger   , is that a genuine J code  :scope: ?  looks good   :yesnod:

its the real deal and completely numbers matching ta boot .....too bad it was a customer car and not mine
 
                thanks for the info  :yesnod:  appreciated :thumbs:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
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Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

472 R/T SE

Quote from: hemi68charger on December 26, 2006, 01:04:58 PM

Larry,,, Thanks for the tidbit....... I would have put them on.. Sooooooooo, I guess it'll be the engine, then the valve covers, THEN the power brake booster assembly... Did you have the offset bracket on first, then install the actual booster after you have the motor/k-member bolted in?

Troy

Troy, we had the booster installed complete with cylinder hooked up and only one valve cover pulled. 
Everything that you can bolt up, do it.  I can't think of anything we didn't already have mounted.  Even the fan shroud laid on top of the fan cluth prior to assembly.  Hoses all hooked up as well.

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: 472 R/T SE on December 27, 2006, 11:58:11 AM
Quote from: hemi68charger on December 26, 2006, 01:04:58 PM

Larry,,, Thanks for the tidbit....... I would have put them on.. Sooooooooo, I guess it'll be the engine, then the valve covers, THEN the power brake booster assembly... Did you have the offset bracket on first, then install the actual booster after you have the motor/k-member bolted in?

Troy

Troy, we had the booster installed complete with cylinder hooked up and only one valve cover pulled. 
Everything that you can bolt up, do it.  I can't think of anything we didn't already have mounted.  Even the fan shroud laid on top of the fan cluth prior to assembly.


thats how we usually do it also and on the hemi car it was pretty much that way with the exception of both valve covers being of just didnt want to risk scrating anything the 70 is about the least complete one weve ever installed but hes waitin for a few things and wanted to get it out of tha way in the shop so in it went by rhe way guys the 70 r/t is for sale when it gets done
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

hemi68charger

OK guys......  Now, if I have the driver's side valve cover off and the booster and master cylinder are installed already, how do I install the driver's side cover once everything is positioned and bolted in? If memory serves me, there's no way to remove the driver's valve cover with the brake system positioned...... Or, is there room?
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: hemi68charger on December 28, 2006, 09:03:47 AM
OK guys......  Now, if I have the driver's side valve cover off and the booster and master cylinder are installed already, how do I install the driver's side cover once everything is positioned and bolted in? If memory serves me, there's no way to remove the driver's valve cover with the brake system positioned...... Or, is there room?

its tricky but if you move it just right it goes right on no scratches or anything the only thing in question is that i cant remember if the master cyl. was on or if we were still waiating for it to come ack from rebuilding but i do know that all the booster stuff was in place
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

Dodge Don

My question is on the steering column. You install this after the engine/front end assembly is installed right?

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: Dodge Don on December 28, 2006, 10:22:17 AM
My question is on the steering column. You install this after the engine/front end assembly is installed right?

CORRECT IT GOES IN AFTER
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

Dodge Don

Quote from: 1hot68 on December 28, 2006, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: Dodge Don on December 28, 2006, 10:22:17 AM
My question is on the steering column. You install this after the engine/front end assembly is installed right?

CORRECT IT GOES IN AFTER

I pulled my column after I had yanked the engine from above, however I'm planning to drop the car onto the engine/tranny/front end/head pipes assembly like you did. Any tricks to getting at/installing the column pin after the assembly is in?

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: Dodge Don on December 28, 2006, 11:46:53 AM
Quote from: 1hot68 on December 28, 2006, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: Dodge Don on December 28, 2006, 10:22:17 AM
My question is on the steering column. You install this after the engine/front end assembly is installed right?

CORRECT IT GOES IN AFTER

I pulled my column after I had yanked the engine from above, however I'm planning to drop the car onto the engine/tranny/front end/head pipes assembly like you did. Any tricks to getting at/installing the column pin after the assembly is in?


we tak a phillips screw that fits thru the center of the pin and drive it in with a long screw driver and a hammer , have someone hold the steering wheel so it doesnt try to turn ...... by the way there is a notch on the coupler to guide you to the double space on the splines to line it up right
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

472 R/T SE

Troy, yes on the booster being intact.  I should have mentioned I run a smaller booster.  The single valve cover we pulled was the pass. side.  I have a smaller booster and can pull the driver's side cover with it in place so I don't know why I want to put the original booster back in.  ::)

Charger-Bodie

Quote from: 472 R/T SE on December 28, 2006, 08:18:12 PM
Troy, yes on the booster being intact.  I should have mentioned I run a smaller booster.  The single valve cover we pulled was the pass. side.  I have a smaller booster and can pull the driver's side cover with it in place so I don't know why I want to put the original booster back in.  ::)

the factory booster will allow for the valve cover on the drivers side to be r&ied its tight but it IS doable
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

472 R/T SE

Is it that way with all E bodys too?  My buddy insisted we have the driver's side cover on when we went in with the assembly, with him not knowing how much more room there was with the smaller booster.
He's an E body guy so I wonder if there's not the same amount of room?  Maybe the booster mounting area is closer on a E body??

This Hemi stuff is all new for me I'll admit, as well as coming in from the bottom.  :-[   But it is sure slicker than snot.  ;)

Charger-Bodie

as far as the e body stuff im not sure we mostly do b bodys ......putting engines in for the bottom is way better isnt it i personally think we are blessed to be able to do it that way its just so much easier to do a nice clean job
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............