72 Charger numbers help PLEASE

[Doright]

Looking for info on how many 72 Charger SE's were built?
How many were built with 400 eng?
How many were built with 440 Magnum?
How many were built with Sunroofs total all carsall engine combo's?
How many 440 magnums were built with the powerd sunroof option?

If no one has a clue is this the type of info Gaylen can provide if I belly up and pay the cash? and waite the time for his response?
My car is a recently purchased 72 Charger SE 440 magnum car w/powerd sunroof,power windows, dual chrome sport mirrors, buckets automatic, 150 speedo, color is an off copper green white top and white interior vynal not leather but ohwell cant have every thing.   
The car is over all pore condition needing a full restoration
Looking for lots of parts
Sun roof motor drive gear
Sun roof cables with lifting mechanism
Sun roof foam surounding sun roof interior
Left fender
Hood flat or bubble
Right passengers window

After that parts list then just a few more hundred questions 

[ACUDANUT]

I have a 72 SE Charger. Hold on to your hat...I removed that metal that covers the side window, I think it looks much better!

[Doright]

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[green72se]

       Doright...if you removed the window plug, how did you get the interior pieces to match up with the "Brougham" package???        

[Doright]

I didnt remove squat yet I am planning a full retore and not altering any thing except for bolt on's so it can be fully restored I would never cut it up I have been looking for this car for 20 years.

[green72se]

   I agree...some members have shown pics with the plug blended/without the vinyl top.  Looks good, but thats alot of body color too.  I've owned mine for almost 20 yrs. It still retains the original top and at certain angles you can see the outline of the plug. 

[Doright]

I think the car looks better with the small window but thats me. Please cut up all the plain janes you want just leave the jenny's to those of us that care.


But please I am really looking for some production numbers any one???

[TruckDriver]

I plan on restoring mine with the vinyl top. They look okay to me with out it. But with the small quarter windows, I think the vinyl top adds a lot. I am definatly doing mine like this Photoshop pic. I think the vinyl top looks good with this color. 

[T16]

      Doright...if you removed the window plug, how did you get the interior pieces to match up with the "Brougham" package???        

The Brougham package.. can someone give me some more info about that

My door panels says Brougham.. so i guess I´ve got it 

[1958300]

According to Galen's white books;
total 1972 charger se   22,430
total se w/ 400 2 barrel  7316
total se w/ 400 4 barrel  3082; 2956 auto, 126 4-speed
total se w/  440  755;  734 auto, 21 4-speed
other sources say approximately 396 se cars with the sunroof, no data on power vs manual sunroof

[ramit]

I agree...some members have shown pics with the plug blended/without the vinyl top. Looks good, but thats alot of body color too. I've owned mine for almost 20 yrs. It still retains the original top and at certain angles you can see the outline of the plug.

Mine still has the original top also and you can see the outline of the plugs.  I would like to remove the plugs soon but I worried about the interior pieces that wouldn't match up after.

[Hemidoug]

I agree...some members have shown pics with the plug blended/without the vinyl top. Looks good, but thats alot of body color too. I've owned mine for almost 20 yrs. It still retains the original top and at certain angles you can see the outline of the plug.

Mine still has the original top also and you can see the outline of the plugs.  I would like to remove the plugs soon but I worried about the interior pieces that wouldn't match up after.

I don't know what the roof line looks like with the plug removed, but if it is the same as a 71, it seems to me that you could use the 71 pieces......

[TruckDriver]

According to Galen's white books;
total 1972 charger se   22,430
total se w/ 400 2 barrel  7316
total se w/ 400 4 barrel  3082; 2956 auto, 126 4-speed
total se w/  440  755;  734 auto, 21 4-speed
other sources say approximately 396 se cars with the sunroof, no data on power vs manual sunroof

Cool! First time I've seen the breakdown numbers. Thanks. Just curious, any /6 models?

[Nacho-RT74]

Doright...if you removed the window plug, how did you get the interior pieces to match up with the "Brougham" package???

The Brougham package.. can someone give me some more info about that

My door panels says Brougham.. so i guess I´ve got it

The Brougham package was the luxury package on the Charger SE from 1972 to 1974. It included:
-Cloth & vinyl seat with fold down center armrest, or vinyl bucket seats with plush carpet, or cloth & vinyl bucket seats with plush carpet.
-Electric clock
-Deluxe steering wheel with partial horn ring
-Simulated wood-grained trim and soft trim
-Padded door trim panels
-Added sound insulation

Brougham upper door panels uses a thin woodgrained insert like 71s However Standarts panels from 72 uses a WIDER insert, what makes don't match inserts between rear and front panels if you mix them up.

SEs rear upper panels ones are cut on top to be able to fit the body plug and sail panel, different than standarts ones, where upper panel meets completelly with glass from end to end.

Recently found Brougham package wasn't available only to  SEs since my car does it have the brougham interior panels from a Hardtop donor

[Doright]

Mine has the Brougham package as well and I need to redo it to look new although it is usable as a driver

I am curios as to were the sunroof info came from if not from Gaylen It means so much to me...

Even so a car of less than 400 built is really rare in any ones book! then to throw in the U code one of less than 800 like to know how many U code with the H code!!?
Do you guy's think Gaylen could provide that info if I paid him to breake the cars codes? 

[andy74]

my 72 se was originally a 400 2 bbl,and was petty blue with a white vinyl top-i like it better now

[Doright]

1958300

I would really like to see your 1972 Charger Rallye coupe 440 N96, GY9 , 1 of 1 according to Galen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
whats the N96 and the GY9


I also would like to know were you found that "other sources" info about the sun roof cars

[Doright]

Bump

[41husk]

According to the book Charger Road Runner & Super Bee, in 72.  6,376 coupes, 41,717 hard tops and 20,266 SEs built of those 2 440 6 packs are none to exist.  The book shows no break down on U codes or rallye packages for 72 or 73.  It says only Rallye and SE were built with 440 (U code) in 73 but does not give a number to how many Rallyes with U code were built in 73.  Does anyone have that breakdown?  Sorry to high jack this thread, but I was wondering.

[1958300]

DORIGHT

My car is currently at the body shop on the rotessirie being sandblasted. Some ugly surprises, but one real jewel. We found a tag that says N96  PREP LINE. I have never heard of a tag for the N96 PREP LINE, but apparently the car was taken off the regular assembly line for the special preparation that was needed to install the air grabber hood.

N96 is the option code for the ramcharger (air grabber) hood. There were 17 1972 Rallye coupes (WL21) made with an air grabber hood.
GY9 is the code for Dark Gold Metallic paint (aslo called Tawny Gold)

I got the information I have from a board member who asked that I not reveal the source. Perhaps he will share with you if he sees this thread.

[Doright]

Amazing no one can provide Sunroof production numbers ?
For an option that is more rare than a Hemi car I would figure more would be interested in them

I was trying to use some of the online decoders to break my car down but not all the codes would work in the decoder

[Nacho-RT74]

Amazing no one can provide Sunroof production numbers ?

For what I have noticed since I'm member of the board, it looks production numbers breakdown are not THAT DETAILED since 72 like on earliers

[Doright]

1958300

other sources say approximately 396 se cars with the sunroof, no data on power vs manual sunroof

Does your freind have Any info on 400 VS 440 cars in that 396?

[Nacho-RT74]

71/72 were all power sunroof, 73/74 were all manual sunroof ( as far I know )

[Doright]

71/72 were all power sunroof, 73/74 were all manual sunroof ( as far I know )         

Not true I have found some powerd 73 and 74 sunroof cars wish I had bought 1 or 2 now for parts

[Nacho-RT74]

ok, as I stated, as far I know...

However my 1974 Mopar part dealers catalog ( basically same 73 catalog with some exceptions specially seatbelts related ) states Electric Sunroof Parts numbers JUST for C bodies on section 23-34-309, and manuals for A and B on section 23-34-309... no Sunroof Part Numbers for E bodies.

Just copying what I'm reading

[Doright]

Ok thats cool, But I have seen the cars with my own eye's is all 

But in your books does it list part numbers for 72 SE Sunroof would be curiuos if the part numbers were same 71-74
The Sunroof parts: cable part numbers with the lifting mechnism on the back of the cable or is the lifting mechnism listed sepratly?
Also does it list the drive gear on the motor that drives the cables sepratly from the motor? should be same P/N for a hand crank mayby not
and can you provide me with those numbers please?
Also does it list the foam suround around the sun roof on the interior under the headliner?

My dealer has no old books for this stuff
Wish I had a set of those books

[Nacho-RT74]

I can scan the PN section and diagram about 74 catalog... 71 ( probably valid to 72 too ) will be a lot easier... give me some minutes...

EDITING: 71 on line catalog I found doesn't have the Roof section on ilustrations or text section about that

[41husk]

Natcho, do you have any production #s on 73 U code Chargers?

[Nacho-RT74]

No production numbers. I'm not on that kind of info.

[twilt]

Natcho, do you have any production #s on 73 U code Chargers?

From the white book.......
73 Charger U code production
WL21U3 (coupes)  26
WH23U3 (hartops) 713
WP23U3 (SE)        1627

[ACUDANUT]

  how does showing 73 productions cars fit into the 72's that were built ??

[twilt]

  how does showing 73 productions cars fit into the 72's that were built ??

Just helping a brother out. 

[41husk]

  how does showing 73 productions cars fit into the 72's that were built ??

Sorry I have several publications that listed #s for 72 chargers, I posted those #s and asked for info on my car for wich I had no numbers, rather than start a new thread I posted my question on this thread.  Sorry if that in some way bothered you,  and twilt, thanks for the info Brother.  I will have to check and see if mine is a hard top or coup.  I bet it's a coup!

[Nacho-RT74]

  I will have to check and see if mine is a hard top or coup.  I bet it's a coup!

If quarter windows are fixed then it is a coup. Roll down quarters are Hardtop

[1958300]

Some of the earlier comments about numbers not being exact are absolutely true. The data provided by Mother Mopar are in percentages of total production, not actual cars produced. For example, 1.77% of the 22,430 Charger SE cars had a manual sunroof. 1.77% of 22,430 is approximately 396, but it could have been anywhere from 392 to about 400.

There is no data given by Mopar that connects engine size to any particular option.