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Avoid Totally Auto - Clueless / Shoddy Work

Started by Dodge Don, December 19, 2006, 08:04:52 PM

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Dodge Don


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dads_69

Once its in the car, from the looks of it here on line, should be fine. You can't compare it to another side by side when or if being judged at a car show. Unless the judge is a real stickler. And as long as it does the job it meant to do, install it and drive on! 50 years from now, is it really going to matter?
I'm an optimist by the way!
Mark
Hey, you can hate the game but don't hate the player.

Shakey

Quote from: dads_69 on December 19, 2006, 09:23:41 PM
Once its in the car, from the looks of it here on line, should be fine. You can't compare it to another side by side when or if being judged at a car show. Unless the judge is a real stickler. And as long as it does the job it meant to do, install it and drive on! 50 years from now, is it really going to matter?
I'm an optimist by the way!
Mark

You don't know Don very good now do you!   :D

Shakey

Quote from: Dodge Don on December 19, 2006, 08:04:52 PM
Before you send anything to Totally Auto to be "restored" check out this thread.

http://1970chargerregistry.com/70messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=3808&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

I had a feeling I was gonna see a thread like this.   :rotz:

Was that you tying up their telephone line today when I was trying to call?   :smilielol:

Rocky


Dodge Don

Quote from: dads_69 on December 19, 2006, 09:23:41 PM
Once its in the car, from the looks of it here on line, should be fine. You can't compare it to another side by side when or if being judged at a car show. Unless the judge is a real stickler. And as long as it does the job it meant to do, install it and drive on! 50 years from now, is it really going to matter?
I'm an optimist by the way!
Mark

Or I could get a boat anchor and some rope and just toss it out the window when I want to stop.....as long as the anchor is "correct"  :'(

I bet I could do a better job in my garage than those schmucks. We'll see....oh yes we'll see....they'll rue the day.......bastages  :flame:

firefighter3931

A lot of high drama for a brake booster don't ya think ?  :pity: Just chrome that sucker and be done with it !  :devil:

On a serious note : It sucks when you pay for a service and it isn't delivered upon.  :down:



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

72chargerSE

Totally Auto SUCKS

They have an ego a mile wide, the hobby has driven by them light years. THEY ARE A RATTLE CAN RESTO SHOP.

You got SCREWED. sorry.

dads_69

I'm not here to defend them. But I realize you didn't get (according to you) what you wanted done, welcome to the real world. If you want something done right, do it yourself. I have some rope if you have an anchor!
Mark
Hey, you can hate the game but don't hate the player.

Dodge Don

Quote from: firefighter3931 on December 19, 2006, 09:56:35 PM
A lot of high drama for a brake booster don't ya think ?  :pity: Just chrome that sucker and be done with it !  :devil:

On a serious note : It sucks when you pay for a service and it isn't delivered upon.  :down:



Ron

I'm a drama queen  :yesnod:

Ron, what blows my stack is that a) they didn't restore it correctly the first time and I had to convince Dave Ferro I was right, and b) when they had a second kick at the can they produced crap results.


6pkrunner

Ask Dave Ferreo about selling the number matching engine/tranny from a fellow's Superbird that was being restored at their shop.
Totally Auto rode the high life for about 2 years. They have long since rode their name into the ground. Sad to hear that Don still thought they had a reputation.

firefighter3931

Quote from: Dodge Don on December 19, 2006, 10:25:35 PM

I'm a drama queen  :yesnod:

Ron, what blows my stack is that a) they didn't restore it correctly the first time and I had to convince Dave Ferro I was right, and b) when they had a second kick at the can they produced crap results.




Don, you ain't no drama queen....just a perfectionist !  ;) There's nuthin wrong with that  :icon_smile_big:

Isn't the customer supposed to be allways right ?  ???

I find it baffleing that a company with this type of reputation could screw up so badly.....amazing ! Surely they know the difference between paint and plating ?  :icon_smile_dead:



Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

72chargerSE

Check out those assholes at Carlisle....

They think they are soooooo good. SCREW them.

hemi-hampton

If they are redoing for free then Plating is exspensive & spray bomb is much cheaper. Does not surprise me. My Question is if some are black is it Gloss black, Semi Gloss or Flat. Sounds like question for Roger Gibson? LEON.

Dodge Don

Quote from: hemi-hampton on December 20, 2006, 01:16:55 AM
If they are redoing for free then Plating is exspensive & spray bomb is much cheaper. Does not surprise me. My Question is if some are black is it Gloss black, Semi Gloss or Flat. Sounds like question for Roger Gibson? LEON.

Leon, trust me....they do nothing for free. Even after they screwed it up the first time. The Midland Ross unit should be plated not black.

41husk

I would tell them, make it right or I am going to get on the net every automotive site I can find and do what I can to insure no one else pays for shabby work, and if they don't make it right I would do that and even go as far to put an ad in Collectors Guide describing what was done. 
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1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

Shakey

Quote from: 41husk on December 20, 2006, 08:34:08 AM
I would tell them, make it right or I am going to get on the net every automotive site I can find and do what I can to insure no one else pays for shabby work, and if they don't make it right I would do that and even go as far to put an ad in Collectors Guide describing what was done. 

Too late for that as the title of the thread says it all!

hemi-hampton


bull


Dodge Don


LL1 1967 Coronet

To further the point...have you ever purchased one of their "correct" spray paints - or should I say spray 'bombs"...? 'Caus that's exactly what you get - a friggin' bomb.  Its a spray can that clogs, spurts, dribbles, clumps, and does just about ANYTHING BUT SPRAY! That textured argent in a can SUCKS DONKEY. So does their "air cleaner orange", which by the way, I'm not even totally convinced is 100% correct tint. If you ask me, Totally auto has been surpassed by other shops who are light years ahead in quality. ...and the jackass Dave Ferro has been a lead judge at major car shows?   Get a clue dude.... building cars for the hotrod power tour is one thing - certainly not for OEM judging. 

MOPARHOUND!

Quote from: LL1 1967 Coronet on December 21, 2006, 08:10:15 AM
To further the point...have you ever purchased one of their "correct" spray paints - or should I say spray 'bombs"...? 'Caus that's exactly what you get - a friggin' bomb.  Its a spray can that clogs, spurts, dribbles, clumps, and does just about ANYTHING BUT SPRAY!

Been there, done that.

Think I still have one full can that clogged on the first spray, and never worked thereafter.

Ordered enough though, that I got full covearge on the wheels before the last can clogged, so was able to finish the job.

Would like to have touched up the spare tire rim a little better. 
1971 Charger R/T, 440 H.P., Auto, A/C Daily Driven (till gas went nuts).  NOW IN CARS FOR SALE SECTION: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,48709.0.html
1969 Charger 318/Auto (latest addtion): http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,31948.0.html
*Speed costs money son, how fast do you want to go, and for how long?"
*"Build the biggest engine you can afford the first time."
*"We normally wouldn't use a 383 for this build, parts and labor for a 440 cost the same."

JimShine

You can improve the spray bombs performance by soaking the cans in hot tap water until the contents reach the hot water temp. Then shake well. I always do that when I need a spray bomb for a little job as it will start to get funky as it sits on the shelf.

72chargerSE

Quote from: LL1 1967 Coronet on December 21, 2006, 08:10:15 AM
To further the point...have you ever purchased one of their "correct" spray paints - or should I say spray 'bombs"...? 'Caus that's exactly what you get - a friggin' bomb.  Its a spray can that clogs, spurts, dribbles, clumps, and does just about ANYTHING BUT SPRAY! That textured argent in a can SUCKS DONKEY. So does their "air cleaner orange", which by the way, I'm not even totally convinced is 100% correct tint. If you ask me, Totally auto has been surpassed by other shops who are light years ahead in quality. ...and the jackass Dave Ferro has been a lead judge at major car shows?   Get a clue dude.... building cars for the hotrod power tour is one thing - certainly not for OEM judging. 

I know LL1 1967 Coronet like a brother  ;)

I still have air cleaner orange dribble all over my driveway from back in 2002 when LL1 1967 Coronet had the can blow up in his face :sick:

MOPARHOUND!

Quote from: JimShine on December 21, 2006, 02:11:50 PM
You can improve the spray bombs performance by soaking the cans in hot tap water until the contents reach the hot water temp. Then shake well. I always do that when I need a spray bomb for a little job as it will start to get funky as it sits on the shelf.

I'll give it a try.  Have some MP spray paint that did the same thing.
1971 Charger R/T, 440 H.P., Auto, A/C Daily Driven (till gas went nuts).  NOW IN CARS FOR SALE SECTION: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,48709.0.html
1969 Charger 318/Auto (latest addtion): http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,31948.0.html
*Speed costs money son, how fast do you want to go, and for how long?"
*"Build the biggest engine you can afford the first time."
*"We normally wouldn't use a 383 for this build, parts and labor for a 440 cost the same."

472 R/T SE

Quote from: JimShine on December 21, 2006, 02:11:50 PM
You can improve the spray bombs performance by soaking the cans in hot tap water until the contents reach the hot water temp. Then shake well. I always do that when I need a spray bomb for a little job as it will start to get funky as it sits on the shelf.

:iagree: That's my little trick before blowing a spray bomb, it's worked every time.

69_500

Sorry to hear that you had a bad experience with those guys. I'll keep my opinions to myself on this topic though.

Having done some business with Dave and Totally Auto in the past. No bad deals on my behalf. Just to show the other side of the coin.

resq302

I did business with them as I was in the need of the textured black paint for the tail panel of my 69 Charger.  I literally got into an arguement with the secretary on the phone as she was claiming the tail panel on my 69 was supposed to be smooth, not textured.  Told her I had a TSB from Dodge on it STATING it was textured.  Needless to say, that was my first and only purchase from them.
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

hotrod98

I tried to order steering column parts from them earlier this year that they had listed in their ad and they acted like they didn't know what I was talking about. Couldn't figure that one out.


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

Shakey

Quote from: 69_500 on December 23, 2006, 08:07:20 PM
Sorry to hear that you had a bad experience with those guys. I'll keep my opinions to myself on this topic though.

Having done some business with Dave and Totally Auto in the past. No bad deals on my behalf. Just to show the other side of the coin.

I thought you were going to keep your opinions to yourself?   :shruggy:

Why would you want to keep your opinions to yourself on a message board anyways?  There would not be much activity if we all did that.   :D

Tell us some stories.   :yesnod:

Mfr426

I too had some interesting dealings with them when purchasing the nuts that hold the heater core to the firewall. They are anodized. I bought the AC kit for my AC car and the kit had too few nuts (or the wrong size mixed in with the right size). I cant remember the issue now but I called and the lady argued with me that they were correct. I said nicely "my car has the original AC heater core installed and I still have the original nuts I know that this kit is not correct for an AC car". She said that they were right and I was wrong. Long story short they did send me what I needed but did not admit that their kit was incorrect.

Based on that experience I decided to NOT solicit them anymore. Had they said "Oh, we dont do many AC cars so we'll make note of this for future kits" I would have been impressed.

That was NOT the case.

Shakey

Quote from: Mfr426 on December 26, 2006, 03:27:55 PM
She said that they were right and I was wrong. Long story short they did send me what I needed but did not admit that their kit was incorrect.

By them sending you the correct nuts, that itself was an admission of guilt.   :yesnod:

69_500

On this subject I will keep my opinions to myself. It seems that some have had bad experiences with them in the past though, I can say that mine were good.

B5 Charger

I ordered two cans of their jack grey for $7.00ea.  They sent me two cans of Krylon brand gloss gray.  Never bought anything from them again.

AKcharger

I'm not sure but I think they do AMWAY® too  :stirthepot:

Dodge Don

Those of you that may recall my fiasco with Totally Auto and my brake booster here is an update. Now remember, I sent it to Totally Auto twice....to be rebuilt and plated, had to send it back the second time to be plated since they painted it. The plating came back looking like dull yellow paint. Terrible job.

I sent it off to Booster Dewey explaining the situation. Just got it back. The plating looks fantastic and correct (finally)....Dewey sent me a letter with it letting me know that he tore it apart and tested it....It was okay but not great so he replaced some parts that TA never bothered to and Dewey says it's perfect now. Even sent me the old worn parts he replaced. All for a 1/3 of the price Totally Auto charged.

Moral: If you need a booster restored, go to Booster Dewey

Totally Auto SUCKS!! :flame:

472 R/T SE

Sure beats holding a sandwich bag out the window to slow you down.  ;)

BD has built quite the top notch reputation and luckily he too is local.

moparguy01

One of the customer cars at work the customer brought in some textured argent paint from totally auto. I was less than impressed. I had to go steal a spray tip from another spray can because their clogged up after about 1/3 second, and after that I had to shake up the can every 5-7 seconds to get it to continue spraying. It turned out OK on the part (69 RR taillight bezels, argent paint) but it was WAAAAAY more work than it should have been.

Charger_Fan

Quote from: 472 R/T SE on June 24, 2007, 05:51:07 PM
Sure beats holding a sandwich bag out the window to slow you down.  ;)
:haha:

Thanks for the update, DD. :2thumbs:

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bull

Don, have you asked for your money back? Not that you'd ever get it from them but it might be worth a try.

Chargermoneypit

I just found this thread and thought I would throw my 2 cents in too. The gal that answers the phone is total know it all bich and when I got the over priced, alledgendly correct paint, it sucked. Anyone want to continue to add to this?

Blakcharger440

Quote from: Dodge Don on December 20, 2006, 06:53:01 AM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on December 20, 2006, 01:16:55 AM
If they are redoing for free then Plating is exspensive & spray bomb is much cheaper. Does not surprise me. My Question is if some are black is it Gloss black, Semi Gloss or Flat. Sounds like question for Roger Gibson? LEON.

Leon, trust me....they do nothing for free. Even after they screwed it up the first time. The Midland Ross unit should be plated not black.

It should be cadmium plated correct?

b5blue

Thanks for posting these comments, I WAS thinking of ordering some stuff and will look else where now....... :scratchchin:

RallyeMike

Well I guess it wasnt just me with the paint cans. I tried the air-cleaner orange and the grille silver and neither one would spray for more than a second or two. I tried every trick in the book to make them work. I keep one can on the shelf to remind me not to buy any more of them.

I'm glad to hear about the Krylon gray sold as the correct jack paint. That's what I used!  :boogie:
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AKcharger

Yes!!! a post resurrected from the dead...my favorite!

Belgium R/T -68

Quote from: RallyeMike on April 18, 2011, 07:07:31 PM
Well I guess it wasnt just me with the paint cans. I tried the air-cleaner orange and the grille silver and neither one would spray for more than a second or two. I tried every trick in the book to make them work. I keep one can on the shelf to remind me not to buy any more of them.

I'm glad to hear about the Krylon gray sold as the correct jack paint. That's what I used!  :boogie:

Nice to read, I have 10 new cans that only sprays for a second. Never had this with any cans before or after, such a waste after having them shipped over from the US. :brickwall:

Per
Charger -68 R/T 500 cui Stroker

b5blue

Bleed the pressure off and remove the paint?   :scratchchin:  Sorry to hear this Per!   :-\

Dodge Don

Quote from: Blakcharger440 on April 17, 2011, 03:07:12 PM
Quote from: Dodge Don on December 20, 2006, 06:53:01 AM
Quote from: hemi-hampton on December 20, 2006, 01:16:55 AM
If they are redoing for free then Plating is exspensive & spray bomb is much cheaper. Does not surprise me. My Question is if some are black is it Gloss black, Semi Gloss or Flat. Sounds like question for Roger Gibson? LEON.

Leon, trust me....they do nothing for free. Even after they screwed it up the first time. The Midland Ross unit should be plated not black.

It should be cadmium plated correct?


Yes.


Can't believe this post crawled out of the grave. It was, in my opionion, Mopar Collectors Guide that kept Totally Autos profile inflatyed. Oh well.....

hemi-hampton

Some times you gotta hold aerosole spray cans in warm water to get them to spray right. LEON.