seized 440

[mopar_head]

ok so my friend is going to this technical program we got at school...hes taking auto motive... they didnt let me in... and i still dont know y... but let me get to the point... ok so he was looking through all the engines that they had in the back... and he found a 440 he ask his teacher to see wat was wrong with it and to see if he could get it...so the teacher told that he can have it for like 50-100 bucks... but the engine is seized... i wanted to know if its saveable..i think the block is perfectly fine and i think a engine rebuild should do the trick since its just the crank i can jsut get the crank... but being beginners i looking for your advice ... he was also saying that since its seized we have to bore it out..... i was like wat for??? but he couldnt explain either... so is a seized 440 savable??? do i have to bore it out to make it run??? and are 440 cranks plentiful??

[73-charger-383]

depends if it's seized at the crank, or stuck in the cylinder.  If it's stuck, you'll most likely need to rebore.  If it's seized and the walls are fine, you need to get the crank ground.

[mopar_head]

i think its just seized at the crank but ill find out

[mopar_head]

ok so yea i just found out that they got two of them there....we need to find out which one he is gunna give us...

[Silver R/T]

grab them both

[Charger_Fan]

If it's been exposed to the elements, it can also seize just from sitting. If enough crap gets built up in the cylinders, that can stick the piston in the cylinder bore quite well. Depending on how far oversized the bore is, it should be rebuildable still.

[TylerCharger69]

I'd bore it, align bore it and put in a new set of pistons and crank kit.   Sure!!!  it's very salvageable!!!

[Chryco Psycho]

most can be saved as long as the rust is niot excessive in the cylinders

[mopar_head]

grab them both

i so would to but hes not that nice !! HAHAA!! but ok i still need to check out the condition... im going there tomarow after school so ill update my crappy info on them but thx for the tips ill look for excessive rust and rust in the cyliders  but i think its covered from the elements. they got them in a storage room in the back

[mopar_head]

I'd bore it, align bore it and put in a new set of pistons and crank kit. Sure!!! it's very salvageable!!!

ok cool i was planning on doing that   

[TylerCharger69]

Even if there is excessive rust on the cylinder walls....it can be bored out to house a sleeve  in each cylinder....I know that some people  I've met.....even though their blocks would clean up at .030...they have had the cylinders re-sleeved just so they could maintain factory specs to a "T"....some people are really anal about that.   .060   is about as much of an overbore that can be done safely.    I've heard stories of overheating issues being overbored that much...and I've heard stories that they ran fine, so I guess that aspect of it is a crap shoot.

[Chryco Psycho]

I have measured thinwalll mid 70s blocks that had over .300 thick cylinder walls & I have seen a 60s block that was under .120 with no over bore
.125 on the load side of the bore is considered minimum so with .300 thick walls the block could be bored .350 over in theory & still have minimum .125 thickness 

[mopar_head]

so yea i found out that the 440 isnt even siezed... it just has a blown piston!! AND HES SELLING IT FOR ONLY $100!!!! man i am so jumping on that deal!!! ill tell u guys wen i get it!! dont know wen though.... lol i just quit my job so i need another one.. and i know its not going anywhere for any time soon so yea i got time to get money 

[TylerCharger69]

I'll give 200!!!   Do I hear 300??

[mopar_head]

he does have two if any of u guys live in the area and want one i could talk him into it

[TylerCharger69]

location??

[mopar_head]

mesa , arizona