superbird nose

[70charger_boy]

Can somebody tell me if a 70 superbird nose would fit a 70 charger

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

Yep fit exactly like the daytona nose just as a 70 charger bumper would fit on a superbird front end-MATT( and yes i have seen both done)

[70charger_boy]

thanks matt  There is one on ebay right now that needs some work now the question is should I bid on it?  It's at 3 grand

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[THE CHARGER PUNK]

needs little work and seems like a deal for something that mint will only go up in price if u feel the need to sell it in the future-MATT (the charger ''supercharger'' concept has a superbird nose on it, u can see the nose line in the center , lines up with the 70 charger hood center line)
, as if it were originally made for the charger instead of the superbird)
see pics below

[70charger_boy]

What a sweet ride!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Well, i'm the high bidder.

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

of course you would need these to mount it(you can get these from any place that repops wing car parts,)
These superbird parts and daytona valence below are from www.dayclona.com very pricy,it seems the best and easiest on the wallet is here in BC http://www.islandserve.com/~dc99/,theres also stinger fiberglass and winged warrior body parts( also u could mount headlights behind the grille and make the headlight doors non-functional)
Z-brackets

grille screen

grille frame

And this daytona valence

[70charger_boy]

You know what I'm thinking?  If I win that superbird nose I'm gonna use it to make a fiberglass repop and make it affordable to us die hard mopar guys, or is that a bad idea?

[70charger_boy]

Thanks for the islandserve link.  I love the batmobile repro.  For $35,000 I think its a steal

[hotrod98]

You know what I'm thinking? If I win that superbird nose I'm gonna use it to make a fiberglass repop and make it affordable to us die hard mopar guys, or is that a bad idea?

Copying that nose won't be as easy as it looks. You can buy a cheap repop already for around $695 ( http://www.showcars-bodyparts.com/superbird.html ) and you don't have to waste your time building the molds. If you factor in the high cost of materials including a good resin there's not much room for profit. I'm kind of thinking that you haven't priced the materials yet. 
What is needed however, is an inexpensive correct steel back glass plug for a superbird and the correct appearing back glass moldings. If you decide to build either of these for cheap, let me know. I would be interested. For right now, I'm leaving my back glass stock until someone steps up and starts making those moldings. I don't want that fiberglass piece or that cheap lexan back window. Just not nice enough for me.
Now if you decide to build a daytona and need an altered trunk lid or wing braces, contact me. I can help you out there.




http://www.showcars-bodyparts.com/superbird.html

[62 Max]

of course you would need these to mount it(you can get these from any place that repops wing car parts,)
These superbird parts and daytona valence below are from www.dayclona.com very pricy,it seems the best and easiest on the wallet is here in BC http://www.islandserve.com/~dc99/,theres also stinger fiberglass and winged warrior body parts( also u could mount headlights behind the grille and make the headlight doors non-functional)
Z-brackets

grille screen

grille frame

And this daytona valence

You are going to have to do some massaging on the Daytona valance.Bottom contour is different.You also need the bottom galvanized filler panel.

[70charger_boy]

Thanks Hot Rod.  I have access, so to speak, to fiberglass,release molds and resins so that could cut down on costs.  I know it wont be easy to do by no means.  I  just want to find a way to make this hobby affordable for the regular guy.  It took my years of saving and crying when I saw a charger.  It was my dream to own a charger, preferably a 69, but now I have a 70.  If I can make some money on something I like to do and can make a charger obtainable to the younger broke guys then that will be my mission.  I'll see what I can do about a window plug.  I much rather like the look of the stock window, myself

[Daytona R/T SE]

What a sweet ride!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Well, i'm the high bidder.

That nosecone on ebay looks like it hit the wall at Daytona doing 180...the metal is all stretched out of shape and it's full of slide hammer holes...I wouldn't give much for it unless it was painted corporate blue and signed by King Richard himself...

[Daytona R/T SE]

Yep fit exactly like the daytona nose just as a 70 charger bumper would fit on a superbird front end-MATT( and yes i have seen both done)

Got a pic?

[hotrod98]

Thanks Hot Rod. I have access, so to speak, to fiberglass,release molds and resins so that could cut down on costs. I know it wont be easy to do by no means. I just want to find a way to make this hobby affordable for the regular guy. It took my years of saving and crying when I saw a charger. It was my dream to own a charger, preferably a 69, but now I have a 70. If I can make some money on something I like to do and can make a charger obtainable to the younger broke guys then that will be my mission. I'll see what I can do about a window plug. I much rather like the look of the stock window, myself

Hey, I'm all for saving people money. That's why I started manufacturing the wing braces for the daytonas. I sell them for at least half of what everyone else gets for them. I convert the trunk lids for half as much as most of the other guys as well and use steel parts instead of fiberglass. I just had another steel 40 x 80 building built and hope to be expanding into more areas of the wing car parts real soon. We've been trying to find someone to bend up the trunk hinges for the last few months without much success. As a last resort, I'll build my own hydraulic bender with the correct 3 1/2" radius for the .125 wall steel tubing. Mine will look identical the originals. I welcome all newcomers to this business in hopes of all of us getting better deals.
Check out my website www.maniacmusclecars.com. It's basic but it will have to do for now. I need to get a few more pics of some of our cars on there. We're just little fish in a big pond.

Yep fit exactly like the daytona nose just as a 70 charger bumper would fit on a superbird front end-MATT( and yes i have seen both done)

Got a pic?

I wouldn't mind seeing that pic myself.

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

the 70 coronet with superbird fenders and hood but 70 charger bumper and grille was on some swiss or german site (cant remember),and the 70 charger daytona clone with bird nose is seen below in pic.(as you can see it is modded nose with sanded down center line and custom home made valence, as you can see also the 70 charger hood doesnt line up so you can use a modified 70 coronet hood (exactly what superbirds used), there was a 70 daytona clone with a bird hood it , it was a gold and red with miller stickers on it , it was a nascar replica(cant remember site, but place was also selling a 69 F8 daytona se survivor with bullit hubcaps and white wing and black interior, called muscle city in florida? or soemthing liek that hard 2 remember but guy had a video of him introducing the car for every car that came in with its history and rarity, i found the link as the 2 daytonas one F8 green se and one daytona nascar replica were on www.cars-on-line.com, anyways heres the pic and link to the 70 charger with shaved bird nose and home made valence-MATT


LINK 2 THE PAGE OF THIS CAR WITH MORE PICS
http://www.eastohiocoolcars.com/Road%20Trip/RoadTrip2003/005/1970Daytona.htm

[hemigeno]

It is hard to say from one single picture if that is a Superbird nosecone or not.  Couldn't it be a Daytona nosecone with the forward radiator inlet filled in?  Wouldn't that be the reason they had to add the turn signals the way they did?  A 'Bird nosecone would have provisions for the turn signals already without having to resort to what is on that car. 

You can't take that website's description as gospel either.

I also don't think a '70 Charger loop bumper would fit very well at all on a Superbird (or '70 Coronet with a chopped hood).  Did you consider the possibility that the Swiss/German site got it wrong and referenced Superbird instead of Daytona?  Could be that someone grafted a '70 Charger front clip on a '70 Coronet.  While that would still take some serious fabrication (to get the fenders to fit right against the door/cowl), I suppose it could be done.  Gee, if we could only see it...

[BigBlockSam]

 

[nascarxx29]

Ive seen the supercharger of Steve J.Im not aware if its a superbird nose used on it Raffi M found it first in a estate sale.He brought it east to PA.He sent it over to Dave Totally Auto in PA.That didnt choose to repaint or restore it Then sometime later Steve J had the car.This guy Dave T in the wing car club saw it back in its day at a Van Nuys Ca dealership.This same car which is a 68 was before the Engel Topless charger .And later restyled as the supercharger.And recieved 70 interior.The article saying it used a daytona type nose leaded in

[nascarxx29]

That other daytona pictured with the motorcyle type parking lights.Is in Va I know that car and owner

[Ghoste]

That other daytona pictured with the motorcyle type parking lights.Is in Va I know that car and owner

  Dave, I don't think there is a single wing car and owner you don't know of.

[nascarxx29]

 Thanks Ghoste Just a hobby I enjoy and been in along time.That turned obession

[70charger_boy]

How much work would it be to make a topless charger?

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

first find a car that u would have the guts 2 chop the top off then mosttly fab skills come into play-MATT

[70charger_boy]

maybe I could buy a hlpag car and chop the top off of it?

[nascarxx29]

Just got an e mail from Steve J. Here is what he said:

"daytona nose. when i stripped it i saw the front opening was once there and covered over. steve"

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

i guess they added that one center line from a bird nose then-MATT

[Magnumcharger]

That other daytona pictured with the motorcyle type parking lights.Is in Va I know that car and owner

  Dave, I don't think there is a single wing car and owner you don't know of.

If that's the case...please elaborate on THIS car, if you will....

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

thats a 69 hemi daytona that has a 69 charger front end and the guy was gonna convert it to a general lee,then the guy found out it was hemi daytona and the guy or his car were never seen again-MATT

[Magnumcharger]

yeah...I know...I took those pics....
But want to know more...MORE.....MORE!!!

[nascarxx29]

This comes from the daytona shipment page.Magnumcharger.By the way hows your deora coming along.Here is the daytona info on XX29J9B414638.610 build date Job number#926312 dealer#22-C3414 Savaria ET Fils Limitee St Jerome Quebec ship date 8-24-69 Car # 122 on the list

[UFO]

magnumcharger..that Hemi Daytona is still around(and so is the owner).Met him a couple years ago,he has been collecting parts for the cars restoration.

[nascarxx29]

Didnt a guy Bob or Rob own that car in Canada.Magnumcharger?

[Magnumcharger]

Yeah, Robert Zmavc I think...
Go to town with that one!

[Magnumcharger]

This comes from the daytona shipment page.Magnumcharger.By the way hows your deora coming along.Here is the daytona info on XX29J9B414638.610 build date Job number#926312 dealer#22-C3414 Savaria ET Fils Limitee St Jerome Quebec ship date 8-24-69 Car # 122 on the list

The Deora is out in a snowbank for the winter. But I'm fabricating the all-new sides for it in my basement as we speak.

[fastmark]

I would be very suspicious of the red charger in the pics. Anyone notice that the vin tag is held on with plain rivets instead of the rosette rivets?

[FJMG]

Hi First time post.  While on the topic of fastback 69 RT, does anybody remember a hemi orange or a dark red/white top in the Ontario-Quebec area.