Metallica The Video's 1989-2004 dvd just released at Target

[70charginglizard]

Get it quick before it sells out!

Awesome DVD guy's!

Totally AWESOME!

[ChargerSG]

Sad that they dident begin from 87 thou, but i will check that one out...

[BigBlockSam]

metallica left a bad taste with me after all the napster crap . i won't buy anything they release . Rene

[BMOTOXSTAR]

FYI,
  The DVD came out this past Tuesday and Best Buy has it for $14.99. It is not a Traget exclusive.
BMOTOXSTAR#079

[70charginglizard]

FYI,
  The DVD came out this past Tuesday and Best Buy has it for $14.99. It is not a Traget exclusive.
BMOTOXSTAR#079

Huh, Same price as Target. So much for a Best Buy...lol


Love this thing no matter where it came from.

FUEL video totally kicks butt! I love that song.

70 Challenger in it and they do a zoom on the FUEL cap on it. Awesome!!!

[BMOTOXSTAR]

Metallica are the masters of Metal! They are one of my favorites as well. I have to get myself the DVD. I have all their Records, that's right, Vinyl records and box sets !
Mopars & Metallica !
BMOTOXSTAR#079

[Manfred318]

Sad that they didn't begin from 87 thou, but i will check that one out...

Their first music video was "One" in 1989.
I don't know that I'll buy the DVD since I have most of their videos downloaded and have all of their albums on vinyl and also have them on CD so I can listen to them and see their videos anytime I want, not to mention all the other Metallica crap I have. I'll probably just borrow it from a friend or something.

Metallica are the masters of Metal! They are one of my favorites as well.  I have all their Records, that's right, Vinyl records and box sets !
Mopars & Metallica !
BMOTOXSTAR#079

[Rocky]

metallica left a bad taste with me after all the napster crap . i won't buy anything they release . Rene

They were cool once, but now they're just a bunch of whiny old bitches.  How can you be a hardcore metal band, and then cry when people actually want to share your music with others.

[MorePwr]

metallica left a bad taste with me after all the napster crap . i won't buy anything they release . Rene

They were cool once, but now they're just a bunch of whiny old bitches.  How can you be a hardcore metal band, and then cry when people actually want to share your music with others.

Because it's theft....Crapster made a business out of supporting copyright infringement

[tomonty]

I was a HUGE Metallica fan (I have seen them 7 times live)  and I still love their older stuff, but St. Anger was one of the worst metal albums I have ever heard (KONK, KONK, KONK..got I hate that snare drum) and the 'Some Kind of Monster' movie made me want to hurl my guts out. Seeing Metallica being followed around by some worthless psychologist and having them constantly crying and hugging each other was enough to make me get on my knees and pray to god to make it all stop. 

I pray for the return of the Metallica I saw in '93 when they had no openers and they kicked a$$ for 3 1/2 hours and they actually let Kirk Hammett play a solo. But I fear that band is long gone.  Just my 

Mike

[BigBlockSam]

They were cool once, but now they're just a bunch of whiny old bitches.  How can you be a hardcore metal band, and then cry when people actually want to share your music with others.
 

[Manfred318]

Metallica To Begin Recording Their New Album Next Month:
Metallica have more than two dozen song ideas ready for the follow-up to 2003's "St. Anger", which they expect begin recording next month for a late summer/fall release via Warner Bros. The CD is being produced by Rick Rubin, who has previously worked with Audioslave, Slayer, Slipknot, System Of A Down, And Red Hot Chili Peppers.

Lets hope it doesnt suck as bad as St. Anger did.

[tomonty]

Lets hope it doesnt suck as bad as St. Anger did.

Well, if Rick Rubin is producing it, there is an outside chance it might be good. It is about time they ditched Bob Rock.

[Rocky]

Because it's theft....Crapster made a business out of supporting copyright infringement

[Rocky]

 

[uskatebetter]

Its mostly Lars Ulrich that's the dick in the band I guess he's just a greedy guy.
and as far as kirk hammet not playing solos in St.Anger it wasnt his choice, the guy wanted to play 'em
but bob rock and lars were like "nah its not what most bands are doing these days".
I think its a good thing on this new album bob rock isnt producing it, I didnt hate the st.anger album like most people do, it was just something different, it kinda reminded me of old black sabbath,
the way the songs would change up right in the middle and then go back to the main riff.
A band cant stay the same forever and if they did it would start to get kinda boring dont you think?
so, yeah, st.anger was okay, but im ready for them to tune their guitars back up to standard or at least half a step down because the st.anger was tuned soooo low it was something like drop c
and then half a step down,i dunno, im not a guitar player i cant remember it exactly.
anyways, i just hope this next album is kickass back like the ones with Cliff Burton
(god rest his soul) although ...And Justice For All was a gnarly album and he wasnt on that one.

[Chryco Psycho]

I loved Metallica in the old days "& justice" has to one of the best Cds of all time but I no longer care
Napster is theft , no arguement But how much $$ do you realy need , it is not like they are starving !!  Suing your fans leaves a bad taste in my mouth [Eagles did it too]
so from the black album I have bought nothing & pirated nothing from them , I have never heard St Anger & never will, I am patient & will wait for the next band that will push the limits like "& justice" did   
So Long Metallica 

[chrisII]

I loved metallica when they were a true metal band, and even tollerated the black album altho it was the sign of an end and only about half of it was decent. LOAD lived up to its name! a load of crap, the only CD ive ever bought and thrown away. S and M was a breef recovery and the only cool thing they have done in 15 years.

   on the napster and file shairing arguement, how many of you have ever seen the video "Cliff em all" there is a part in there where they actually tell the people at there show to tape it from a friend if they cant afford to buy it!! I never would have become a fan if not for my recorded copys of the early music as a teeen. isnt it a shame that music has to take a back seat to greed??

[Charger-Bodie]

metallica left a bad taste with me after all the napster crap . i won't buy anything they release . Rene

how would you like it if all of a sudden you only got paid for part of youre days work and you were forced to donate some to others

[BigBlockSam]

$20 a cd is to much

[MorePwr]

they actually tell the people at there show to tape it from a friend if they cant afford to buy it!

Ya. And I guess that people with computers, internet connections and mp3 players, world wide. are the poor folk they were talking about.   Wow! talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth.

[chrisII]

they actually tell the people at there show to tape it from a friend if they cant afford to buy it!

Ya. And I guess that people with computers, internet connections and mp3 players, world wide. are the poor folk they were talking about.   Wow! talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth.

well we are getting a bit off topic now, but there point then was that if you listen to it and copy it from your friend eventually you would buy it, and i think they were right. I wore out cpyed tapes of everything from killem all to "justice"  now i own EVERY metallica CD through the black album, and not just the main stream stuff i have a few very limited production cds includeing one that was recorded in 1982 with the bass player they had before Cliff. they realised then that if they had enough fans they would sell alot of records..now they think everybody is a fan and so they dont nead that viewpoint anymore..i will never own another metallica Cd recorded after 1990.

Im not saying its ok to just download something and never buy it, but i do believe in downloading somebodys music so i can hear what the songs on he CD sound like that i dont hear on the radio. if its good i buy it , if it sucks i delete it

[Chryco Psycho]

When the bands are starting out they do anything to get the music heard free of not & this is when they most NEED the $$ , a few short years later they sue the same people good Irony

[MorePwr]

When the bands are starting out they do anything to get the music heard free of not & this is when they most NEED the $$ , a few short years later they sue the same people good Irony

If someone started stealing my livelyhood. old friend or not I'd sue them too. or worse

Giving away free samples is common in business. We've all had the free samples at the grocery store. just because the lady there gave me a free taste of something , doesn't give me the right to go steal that something. does it?

Wouldn't it seem strange to get mad at the store for suing the thief?

Napster and the people that persisted for over a year in copying the music, after the music industry asked them to stop. are the bad guys. not Metallica.

[Dodge440Coronut]

When the bands are starting out they do anything to get the music heard free of not & this is when they most NEED the $$ , a few short years later they sue the same people good Irony

If someone started stealing my livelyhood. old friend or not I'd sue them too. or worse

Giving away free samples is common in business. We've all had the free samples at the grocery store. just because the lady there gave me a free taste of something , doesn't give me the right to go steal that something. does it?

Wouldn't it seem strange to get mad at the store for suing the thief?

Napster and the people that persisted for over a year in copying the music, after the music industry asked them to sto. are the bad guys, not Metalica.

Exactly.

As someone who fancies themself as a bit of a musican I am glad someone as big Metallca took a stand agianst file sharing. There is a huge trickle down effect here and I think Lars & Metallica saw that, let's face it..... are you gonna buy a whole CD for $14.95 from an artist that you only kinda like one or two if their songs, or are you gonna go home and download if for free? I think the latter more often than not.

It may not be taking food out of the mouths of bands like Metallica or The Beatles, but there are many smaller musicans out there who are having their livelyhood taken away from them due to this sort of thing.

I also find it very funny how people give Metallica all this crap for "selling out" because they've made a few commercially viable records. I'm sorry.... I must've missed something, but I thought the idea was to make music that people like and hopefully make good money doing it. Do what you love and get rich? Hell, that's the american dream, and you're gonna stand there and tell me you'ld turn the money away on principle? I don't think so......

As for the past couple Metallica albums, I'll agree that I wasn't really into some of them (St. Anger for one) at first, but after having them sit on the shelf and going back to them, there is some great stuff there..... Load is likely my favorite album and has been for the past few years. No, it's not Kill 'Em All, but it isn't meant to be either......you have to open your mind up to these albums and the band. Newsflash, it isn't 1986, Fleming Rasmussen isn't their producer and if you put out Ride The Lightning every time, it gets a little boring. People change, bands change.... it's called growth, deal with it like the rest of us.

Personally, I'd love to be in Metallica's shoes right now, being sucessful enough to put out the material you want and not having to worry about having to appeal to a certian market enough to sell X number of albums.

My $.02

I don't have "The Videos' DVD yet, is it any good? What's on there besides videos? I dig extra features.....

[MorePwr]

Hey check out the spam I just got in my email..what timing.  More free stuff we can help ourselves to at the store!

[defiance]

Alternica - I mean, "Metallica" as they claim to be (though IMO that band died a long time ago), isn't worth my time or money, regardless of their stance on file sharing.  However, their stance against file sharing shows a horrific gulf between their understanding of reality and reality itself.  Further, it was the first of many steps showing this complete lack of comprehension of consumers throughout the music "INDUSTRY".  Radio and recording companies have both gone entirely corporate to the point of creating bands that fit cookie-cutter market segments (or, case in point, molding a good band to fill such a segment) - which, of course, is a great way to make money- and real ART, real MUSIC, rarely sees the light of day.  Napster and the other file sharing apps that followed were NOT a sign of rampant lack of ethics among consumers, they were a RESPONSE to the lack of music being played on the radio, coupled with the INSANE skyrocketing of CD prices.  So, you pay $20 for a CD that you've probably heard one song from.  Surprise, the rest is crap.  Meanwhile, a select few recording artists (not necessarily by any means the good ones) are getting paid, others (definitely not necessarily the bad ones) are going bankrupt, and the only people making REAL money are the Recording industry execs - which, of course, then turn that money around to market Britney Spears and other such drivel.

I, and I'd bet a HUGE segment of other people, did NOT stop - or even slow- my purchasing of CDs when I started file sharing.  I bought just as many as before, I just did it knowing what I was getting for a change.

However, since I was forced to stop file sharing, I've slowed down DRAMATICALLY.  I know good music is still out there, but I don't hear it on the radio; all they play is pop crap.  And I'm not willing to pay that much for what I am fairly certain will be crap, given the current trend (though I have found a couple good bands from friends).

The record companies want to blame dwindling sales on file sharing, but they need to look at the crap they're shoveling out on consumers if they want a good answer.

In short, people need some method of knowing that what they're buying isn't crap.  As long as the companies cannot provide this, their sales will continue to drop like a rock.

[MorePwr]

Listen before you buy. what a concept.


http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=1040807&title=...And+Justice+For+All&artist=Metallica

[defiance]

LOL - a 30 second sample of a song is often not at all representative of the whole song.  I'm certainly not buying a friggin' $20 album based on a few 30-second samples.  The record companies won't get a CENT of my money until they learn to evolve with technology.  Oh, and drop the ridiculous prices, too.  Learn to distribute digitally the RIGHT way.  iTunes is a step in the right direction, but it still has a long way to go...  and I'll bet the recording industry put Apple through 9 kinds of hades to even get started.
Besides, I'd guess 20 cents of every dollar I spend on a CD goes to fund the record companies' never-ending push of crap music.  How can I support that and sleep at night??

[MorePwr]

30 seconds of an average, what 4 minute song. seems pretty reasonable to me when compared to similar copyable entertainment media. movie trailers give you a couple of minutes out of 90. videogames, one level out of ten or fifteen. books maybe a 10 page summary out of 400.

All of those examples are going to cost more than a music CD. And you'll also have to weed through the crap with all of them.

Heck I could do this all day! My new truck, I think I put 50 miles on it, on the test drive. And that's a long test drive. I expect to drive it fo 80,000 miles or more. I didn't to get to test it to its full potential like pulling a trailer or driving it in 4 wheel drive in the snow. etc. I only got to Sample it.

And about file sharing. nothing has really changed. before file sharing days. you could copy music and share it with your friends, and you still can. no one is going to hunt you down for making a couple copy's.
I suppose you can still file share too, but I choose not to, for the same reasons I don't steal other things.

[defiance]

Yes, it has changed - there are dramatically fewer independent radio stations out there, and the radio stations that exist tend to play whatever's being marketed by the record companies, which in turn are marketing their cash cows.  Great way to do business.  Bad for actual music being heard.  At one point about 10-15 years ago, I could listen to several radio stations in my area with multiple different genres represented.  Now, I've primarily got two: pop/r&b and country.  There are exceptions like the 'oldies' station, but for any new music, it's all the two cash cows.  So yes, it has changed - a LOT. 

People who say taking music from online and refusing to buy it are absolutely correct, and I won't argue with that.

But people who say file sharing music is always bad based on that fact haven't bothered to consider all aspects of the situation. 

I've got probably 50-100 songs from some of my favorite artists that DO NOT EXIST in any purchaseable form.  That would never happen without file sharing.  That's not stealing, since there is no-one harmed by my using it, and I'd be happy to pay for it if it were for sale.

I've got music that I would have been happy to purchase, but for one reason or another, record companies have seen fit to cease production on the cd's or singles.  Never without file sharing.  By software definition, which the recording companies repeatedly refer to, this is abandonware, and thus public domain.

I've got hundreds of songs that I own the CD's, but they're too scratched to read (some of them are 10-15 or more years old).  According to the record companies, when I buy a U.S. law, when I buy a CD, I have the right to use that information, so this is completely legal and ethical ownership that no record company would ever allow if they had their say.

I've got countless songs that I downloaded first, listened to, decided I liked, so I bought the CD's.  Emperical evidence has REPEATEDLY shown that this is actually more common than people downloading stuff and stealing.

No, file sharing is not stealing things.  File sharing is a means by which some people can steal things.

So is a rifle.  Heck, so is the trunk of my charger.  Well, maybe not right now, since it's immobile...  but that's not the point

[MorePwr]

(Quote) "I've got countless songs that I downloaded first, listened to, decided I liked, so I bought the CD's"

Why? don't you have a burner?

(Quote) "No, file sharing is not stealing things.  File sharing is a means by which some people can steal things."

Yes, I'm familiar with the argument the file sharing service providers are using. and the technicalities they hide behind. ah..Bullshit! spray any cologne on it you want it's still just Bullshit.

[defiance]

No, I have a nice burner; I can toast a whole CD in just a couple of minutes.  I've already answered your underlying question, though; read the previous post.  File sharing can be used to steal, just as many other wonderful things (including our cars) can be used to steal.  That does not mean they can ONLY be used to steal, and that CERTAINLY does not mean it is, by nature, a bad thing.  As noted, I used file sharing to determine whether the songs on the album were worth buying prior to spending the insane cost of the CD's.  If I'm going to overpay, then I'm going to know what I'm overpaying for first.

[defiance]

Yes, I'm familiar with the argument the file sharing service providers are using. and the technicalities they hide behind. ah..Bullshit! spray any cologne on it you want it's still just Bullshit.

Bravo, great argument, you've certainly disproven my point there!

[MorePwr]

No, I have a nice burner; I can toast a whole CD in just a couple of minutes.  I've already answered your underlying question, though; read the previous post. 

Maybe you're taking my posts a little too personally..

My point is:  when a guy can get his music on line for free and burns a copy of it to do with as he chooses. then why would he go and purchase it? I'm not really interested in what makes you or the rest of the minority such honest folks. just what makes you think my 16 year old nephew and the millions of kids like him, are so darned honest. these kids aren't asking for cd's at Christmas they're asking for faster burners and internet connections.

I'm not saying that youngster are the only ones that prefer to get things for free. just an example.

It is unfortunate that the few have to be punished because of the many, but that's just the way it is. payed for insurance lately?

[defiance]

Hm...  The statistics I've seen indicate that people who continue to buy CD's even though they file share are not the minority... But now I can't find them...  Which, of course, makes them worthless as a reference

Well, in any case, maybe things are looking up...  The record companies recently indicated a willingness to deal with youtube on this sort of issue, internet radio (i.e. pandora) is starting to pick up, services like iTunes are beginning to distribute songs a little better, etc...  So maybe the music industry is finally responding...

I still say that they waited, what, 8 years? before finally evolving to the changes, and the "minority" I belong to suffered the consequences of their bullheaded approach.  In business, if you don't evolve to technological changes, you're doomed to failure, so I still say the record companies deserve a lot more loss than they've suffered.  Further, because they considered my segment insignificant enough to completely alienate me, I consider them offensive enough that I will never support a member of the RIAA again if I can help it...  At least, not until they make a great deal of effort to fix the problems they've helped fester.  And I bought CD's all the way up to a year or so ago (last CD I bought was "With Teeth" (NIN), which, of course, I downloaded first); it's only the END of file sharing that has made me stop.

There's MUCH more discussion I could give on this, but I actually just came in to state my disappointment with the band on matters having nothing to do with file sharing (like sucking since load - one of the CD's that I bought- it helped convince me that I needed to know what I was getting before I paid- for example ), but I tripped on a pet peeve

[MorePwr]

check out this link. 5 pages, but interesting

http://computer.howstuffworks.com/file-sharing.htm

[AJ1966]

I wish they would release a REMIX/REMASTER OF JUSTICE FOR ALL.


Not that they will, because they make so much money as it is, but Justice has the worst mixing ever.  The album would have so much new life if they remixed the bass and such.....

[uskatebetter]

yeah Justice did have pretty bad mixing they probably should remix it and boost the bass...hell I'd buy it.
I think all their albums with Cliff deserve to have the bass brought out more, because that man was one HELL of a bassplayer

[4cruzin]

WOW all this because someone suggested a video . . . 

[BMOTOXSTAR]

I wish they would release a REMIX/REMASTER OF JUSTICE FOR ALL.


Not that they will, because they make so much money as it is, but Justice has the worst mixing ever.  The album would have so much new life if they remixed the bass and such.....

Yeah but the drums sound sweet on JUSTICE. The double bass sounds sick. You have to turn the bass down even on a system that can handle bass. The double bass on "One" is what defined mainstream metal drumming back then. Yeah you also had Lombardo and Slayer at the same time, but the drum sound on JUSTICE is just killer.
BMOTOXSTAR#079

[Manfred318]

I wish they would release a REMIX/REMASTER OF JUSTICE FOR ALL.


Not that they will, because they make so much money as it is, but Justice has the worst mixing ever.  The album would have so much new life if they remixed the bass and such.....

Yeah but the drums sound sweet on JUSTICE. The double bass sounds sick. You have to turn the bass down even on a system that can handle bass. The double bass on "One" is what defined mainstream metal drumming back then. Yeah you also had Lombardo and Slayer at the same time, but the drum sound on JUSTICE is just killer.
BMOTOXSTAR#079

[Dodge440Coronut]

I wish they would release a REMIX/REMASTER OF JUSTICE FOR ALL.


Not that they will, because they make so much money as it is, but Justice has the worst mixing ever.  The album would have so much new life if they remixed the bass and such.....

Yeah but the drums sound sweet on JUSTICE. The double bass sounds sick. You have to turn the bass down even on a system that can handle bass. The double bass on "One" is what defined mainstream metal drumming back then. Yeah you also had Lombardo and Slayer at the same time, but the drum sound on JUSTICE is just killer.
BMOTOXSTAR#079

Two words.... Dyers Eve