1969 charger RT hood Question

[69 rt]

I was wondering if the indentation in the hood where the turn signals are located should be a different color than the rest of the hood. Someone was telling me these should be Blacked out.

[Ghoste]

There was a black decal in there actually.  To be honest though, I don't know if it was an option to have it or across the board.

[69 rt]

Thanks for the Quick reply, I will check on the decals.

[Ghoste]

And just to clarify, I am talking about the indented portions at the front of the big indent, where the turn signals are.  The big scallops or indents are another optional stripe thing altogether.

[69 rt]

ok,

Thanks again, I looked at Yearone and they sell a decal for the turn signal indents, Black or Flat Black I think the Flat Black would be the best choice for me.

[JimShine]

I believe the black decals were a 1968 item. The few 1969's I have seen them on have been restored/repainted.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

69 item as well....

[8WHEELER]

And I just found out this year from YO, that there is a flat black and a gloss black decal
for the hood decals. I had never had the option in the past years, what is correct 
You would think I would no, I have allways used gloss in the past, YO is no help.

Dan

[tan top]

 mine were gloss black  from the factory .

[hemigeno]

Performance Car Graphics ( http://www.performancecargraphics.com ) has the "Hood Depression Decals" listed for both '68 and '69 applications.  They are the same, I only pointed that out because they are appropriate for both models.

According to David Patik, the decals themselves were originally a textured, matte black (which means it couldn't be waxed).  That might be why they are also offered by YearOne in gloss black - so you don't have to do something like mask off the stripes when you're doing a wax job.

[tan top]

According to David Patik, the decals themselves were originally  are appropriate for both models.a textured, matte black (which means it couldn't be waxed).  That might be why they are also offered by YearOne in gloss black - so you don't have to do something like mask off the stripes when you're doing a wax job.

 
                  thats strange ,  the  original ones on my charger  were definatly  gloss black   , not textured . 

[Ghoste]

I don't recall ever seeing them in anything else but gloss black.   I have a pic here of an unrestored car and they look gloss black in the photo but who knows what 35 years of wear will do to a decal?

[hemigeno]

Well, that's why I mentioned whose material I found that in.  I may have drawn a conclusion from his catalog material though - he only offers them in textured matte black.  From that, I concluded that his opinion was that they were originally of that type.  If you know much about David, he's a stickler for details.

I shouldn't have said anything about David's opinion on the subject without asking him - although the paint on the NOS turn signals that I have is flat black.

Chalk another one up in the "Who knows??" category...

[tan top]

                (hemigeno)  you say its paint on your NOS hood turn signals  not a decal ?
                                                                           

[69charger500se]

I believe that the gloss black decals were used on all paint colors except black. Black cars used the flat black hood depression and tail stripe decals. Gloss black decals would not be seen well on a gloss black car.

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

im not 100% sure but i think they were only available on hemi cars-MATT

[tan top]

I believe that the gloss black decals were used on all paint colors except black. Black cars used the flat black hood depression and tail stripe decals. Gloss black decals would not be seen well on a gloss black car.

       that makes sense , good point          

[hemigeno]

                (hemigeno)  you say its paint on your NOS hood turn signals  not a decal ?
                                                                           

Yep, the turn signal faces are painted.  I didn't take the time to dig through my NOS parts stash, but I did find a set of original turn signals laying on the shelf that clearly shows the painted surfaces.  You can see the black paint on the edges, so it is definitely not a decal.  The paint looks matte/flat black to me, but I'm no expert.

See what you think...

[tan top]

 thanks for the picture (hemigeno)     intresting  ,   yeah defanitly looks  matte  , my originals had no black left on them ,   
         
         

[Brock Samson]

good info thanks!

[Ghoste]

This is an unrestored car.  I'm inclined to think it's more of a semi-gloss than anything the more I look at it.

[tan top]

 good picture ( Ghoste ) ,      my decals were definatly gloss  from the factory - on the original paint   

[Ghoste]

Gene's pic is definitely flat though.  Can a semi-gloss fade to a flat?  Could a gloss first fade to a semi and then a flat?  The car I took the pic from had 15k miles on it.

[hemigeno]

Dumb question here... are those even decals in the hood depressions?

I know my decals don't fit anywhere CLOSE to that snug around the perimeter edges.  They are reproductions though, so I won't try to draw any conclusions from those.

It also could very well be that the black on the turn signal I posted has faded.  Only the shadow knows how much it has oxidized.  Wish I had the time to go dig those other T/S lenses out...   

[Ghoste]

You know, from that pic it really is hard to tell.  I do know the car has never been restored but it also was meant as a bit of a show puppy right from the second Dodge generated the order for it.  I tend to think they are decals but the car isn't in my garage so I can't prove it.  The lower edge of the depression with the signal lens appear to have some wrinkled lip at the edges but that could just be the light.