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WWII Tank from the bottom of a lake.............wow!

Started by BigBlackDodge, November 30, 2006, 09:06:59 PM

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Kinda makes me wonder what might be residing at the bottom of some of the hundreds of  flooded rock and sand quarries around here. How many Daytonas are still unaccounted for? ;)
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Thats just cool! :thumbs: And I agree on the flooded quarries. Might be time to invest in some diving gear :devil:
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That is cool! I'd like to seen a pic of the dozer that did the pulling as it looks like one deep assed mud hole it was in.
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Old for me, but cool nonetheless. I love the design of the old T34 series mediums. One of the best designs to come out of WWII. They also formed the basis for the successful T54/55 series tanks, (and the T43, but it was an interim design which never saw production like the T34 or T54/55 series tanks). They were also hard for the German tanks to take out for a long time. At the time of Operation Barbarossa; German tanks had very inadequet guns; the Panzer IV being a close support tank with a short barreled 75mm gun, the Panzer III have a medium length, low velocity 37mm gun later upgunned to a low velocity 50mm and finally a higher velocity 50mm gun. Only the 8.8cm FlaK18 could drop one at any range until the Panzer IV was upgunned to a high-velocity 75mm, and the Panzer V "Panther" and the Panzer VI "Tiger" came on the scene.
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cool, very good quality tank as said before. Russians are known to have best weapons
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Radical!
They've also been pulling a LOT of old war birds out of Russian lakes as well.Lakes made great runways and emergancy  landing fields in the winter...but the ice would melt and always claim a few. Saw articles on P-39, BF-109 and a Hurricane all pulled from Russian lakes and being rebuild (P-39 still had the pilot in it...yuck)

red72chrgr

Quote from: Da' ChargerGuy on November 30, 2006, 09:37:30 PM
That is cool! I'd like to seen a pic of the dozer that did the pulling as it looks like one deep assed mud hole it was in.
Here's a pic of a '95 model of the dozer that did the job.
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blackcharger

during WWll, we had some side wheel carriers that were used to train Navy pilots. About ten years ago, two Grumman F4F Wildcats were pulled from one of the lakes that had crashed during the war. Due to the lakes being fresh water, the fighters looked like that were just dirty. Both have been restored to flying condition.
History Channel had a show last year about a Sherman tank that was lost off Normandy. When they pulled it out, it was covered with sea groth, and had heavy corrosion.

Charger_Fan

I can understand why salt water would rust metal faster than fresh water...but to have it practically not rust at all in fresh water? :o That's just crazy. I bet if we dug up a Charger that had been sitting on a lake bottom for 20 years, it would be plenty rusty.  :icon_smile_big:

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Here is the video   of the big dozer pulling the old tank out of the bog.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kKLbKHNquE



Todd

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I watched a show where they pulled the last known "surviving" Canadian built bomber from the bottom of the lake where the crew rested since the second world war. They then rebuilt the bomber and invited all the last surviving pilots to come see it.

As for the rust issue, if you have fresh water and add in VERY cold temperatures then you won't get as much if any rust.
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TruckDriver

Quote from: Todd Wilson on December 01, 2006, 03:08:37 PM
Here is the video   of the big dozer pulling the old tank out of the bog.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kKLbKHNquE

Todd


The dozer wasn't even working. That some what supprizes me. I figured it would of been much bigger more like a D9 Cat. I doesn't quit look that big. Guess it didn't matter as long as it had dry ground to dig into when pulling.
PETE

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AKcharger

Cool Video, thanks. I thought it was queer that the tracks and boggie wheels on the tank still rolled...I would have thought they'd rust (metal to metal) or at least be clogged with mud/junk...suprising!

tan top

 thats  amazing  after all that time , even the tracks are still working
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I have seen quite a few recovery photos of WWII AFV's, STUG'S, Panthers, etc., but I do not recall ever seeing one in the pristine condition this one appears to be in.  Really quite amazing.  Thanks for the post.
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TheAutoArchaeologist

Not only was it in the cold fresh water, but under the mud.  And that preserves stuff for thousands of years if undisturbed.

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mustanghater

Anyone got any more links to tories like this?
I rember reading about a bomber that was pulled out of a lake somewhere in the US. There was also a show on CBS about a group that restored a bomber on an iceberg where they dug it out of the snow and when they were done they were going to fly it. Thye finished restoring it but when they went to take off a lamp fell over and burned up the whole plane.
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Quote from: mustanghater on December 01, 2006, 07:35:28 PM
Anyone got any more links to tories like this?
There was also a show on CBS about a group that restored a bomber on an iceberg where they dug it out of the snow and when they were done they were going to fly it. Thye finished restoring it but when they went to take off a lamp fell over and burned up the whole plane.

I saw that one too. It was sad after all the work they did to see it burn up and sink.
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BigBlackDodge

Quote from: mustanghater on December 01, 2006, 07:35:28 PM
Anyone got any more links to tories like this?
I rember reading about a bomber that was pulled out of a lake somewhere in the US. There was also a show on CBS about a group that restored a bomber on an iceberg where they dug it out of the snow and when they were done they were going to fly it. Thye finished restoring it but when they went to take off a lamp fell over and burned up the whole plane.

Maybe these............B-29 Lake Mead
http://sanctuaries.noaa.gov/maritime/expeditions/b29.html

B-25 in Lake Murray
http://uwex.us/lakemurrayb25.html


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BigBlackDodge

Quote from: Da' ChargerGuy on December 01, 2006, 08:49:52 PM
Quote from: mustanghater on December 01, 2006, 07:35:28 PM
Anyone got any more links to tories like this?
There was also a show on CBS about a group that restored a bomber on an iceberg where they dug it out of the snow and when they were done they were going to fly it. Thye finished restoring it but when they went to take off a lamp fell over and burned up the whole plane.

I saw that one too. It was sad after all the work they did to see it burn up and sink.

Glacier Girl?      or is there another plane?
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This will kill some time ;D

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