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Almost lost Dana (my C500) last night, fixed her, video and pic update; pg.3

Started by hemi68charger, November 27, 2006, 11:12:27 AM

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69_500

Glad to hear it wasn't terribly bad. Makes me note that I need to do some work on my 500 now too though.


69_500

Did you have an aftermarkety alternator on the car? Just curious? I put a new alternator on the 500 this summer, and whenever I drive it the amp meter is pegged out. Just curious if this is the same situation that you had? If so I want to remedy it before the same thing happens. Know what I mean.

Ghoste

Danny, is it a single or dual field alt?

69_500

single.

short and sweet answers tonight. :)

hemi68charger

Quote from: 69_500 on November 28, 2006, 08:03:25 PM
Did you have an aftermarkety alternator on the car? Just curious? I put a new alternator on the 500 this summer, and whenever I drive it the amp meter is pegged out. Just curious if this is the same situation that you had? If so I want to remedy it before the same thing happens. Know what I mean.

Danny..
The alternator I had was a remanufactered version from my local auto parts store, single field.... My alt. gauge pegged negative just before it blew.. So, if it's up for the winter, you may wanna take the advise others are giving me and do something.. I'm calling http://www.redlinegaugeworks.com/ tomorrow to talk to them about there conversions of the alt. gauge to a voltmeter using the same face...... I have a few extra alt. gauges to do this with...........

Troy
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

Ghoste

Sorry for the thread hijack but since it's related and we don't want it to become a "me too" thread, when was the last time you cleaned the terminals in the bulkhead connector?

hemi68charger

Quote from: Ghoste on November 29, 2006, 04:31:55 AM
Sorry for the thread hijack but since it's related and we don't want it to become a "me too" thread, when was the last time you cleaned the terminals in the bulkhead connector?

Thoroughly about 2 years ago... I'm real anal about that spot.. Now that I'm learning more about it all, I'm starting to think my amp gauge met it's maker and there was nothing I could have done to avoid it.......
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

charger Downunder

I always have my negative lead to the battery on hand tight so its easy to pull of plus i carry a spanner for the battery terminal just in case its needed.Glad you and the car are fine it could of ended up heeps worth .
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hemi68charger

Just got off the phone with redline and it's $100 for the conversion.. You use your gauge and the original face.. You have to send off minimally your instrument cluster with the circuit board and gauge...  I'll send off one here probably after the holidays... I guess I'll get to ripping into Dana now... NO CHARGER TO DRIVE !!!!!!    :icon_smile_sad:

Troy
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

nascarxx29

Actually you can still start it up If you have to .And move around a car with no cluster in the car as I done before pictured below.Join the 2 amp gauge wires together with a nut and bolt and tape it up.This completes the circuit and also by passes the amp gauge.


1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

hemi68charger

Quote from: nascarxx29 on November 29, 2006, 01:54:02 PM
Actually you can still start it up If you have to .And move around a car with no cluster in the car as I done before pictured below.Join the 2 amp gauge wires together with a nut and bolt and tape it up.This completes the circuit and also by passes the amp gauge.




Yeap, I know that Dave.......... Unfortunately, the damage to the harnesses is pretty bad. I'm not taking any more chances.. She'll be nice and comfy in the garage until I get her going again..........

Thanks for the suggestion though...........

Troy
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

nascarxx29

Sounds good I think MH makes a nice rally dash repo wiring harness.I used to get mine out of junkyard chargers.Now you can get one from aftermarket somewhere around $489.00 last I heard
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

62 Max

For whats under the hood you can't do any better.Quality and price.

http://evanswiring.tripod.com/index.html

nascarxx29

I had gotten a 70 b body engine harness from Bill & Rose Evan.With the electronic ignition incorporated.Was nice not to have to splice the harness that came with the DC ignition distributor kit
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

hemi68charger

Quote from: nascarxx29 on November 29, 2006, 04:44:56 PM
http://www.wiringharness.com/

Dave,
These guys only sell via YearOne... From what I know they don't sell to John-Q public... They do come with a great reputation though.....

Troy
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

hemi68charger

Quote from: 62 Max on November 29, 2006, 05:21:44 PM
For whats under the hood you can't do any better.Quality and price.

http://evanswiring.tripod.com/index.html

I might check these guys out.. Thanks for the link........ I'm keeping the original dual-point distributor in Dana......

Troy
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

nascarxx29

I know a guy from my area thats in the non mopar wiring aftermarket.If I needed anything electrical. stuff that may work on a mopar.You can also go petronix and loose the points in the prestolite dist.I have a bucket full of these prestolite distributors.All have shaft play causes point variation

http://www.americanautowire.com/
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

PocketThunder

I rewired my entire 68 with the ZZ-20 harness from www.itsasnapwireandcable.com but it took me several months of nights and weekends and it was a pain in the ass.  I'll spend the $$$ next time and buy one already done exactly for Chargers.  But it was a learning experience.  This harness is more set up for rewiring a street rod with a sbc.
"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

nascarxx29

Sound like one of those painless wiring kits .Its universal has modern little plug in fuses.But you got alot of extra length to shorten route and tape up
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

TruckDriver

Quote from: 69charger383 on November 27, 2006, 07:49:55 PM
Your lucky man. I would of been devestated if I lost that thing!
:iagree:

No kidding I love that car.
PETE

My Dad taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock you into the middle of next week!" :P

duo-stripe

T... I am glad things worked out allright....
Good luck with fixin' things!

Grtz Marcel
MoPars overseas...<br />MoPars in the Netherlands

Aero426

Quote from: hemi68charger on November 29, 2006, 12:08:03 PM
Just got off the phone with redline and it's $100 for the conversion.. You use your gauge and the original face.. You have to send off minimally your instrument cluster with the circuit board and gauge...  I'll send off one here probably after the holidays... I guess I'll get to ripping into Dana now... NO CHARGER TO DRIVE !!!!!!    :icon_smile_sad:

Troy

Troy, what exactly does the conversion actually do?   I'm under the assumption it prevents all those amps from directly flowing through the ammeter?

hemi68charger

Quote from: DougSchellinger on December 01, 2006, 10:18:38 AM
Quote from: hemi68charger on November 29, 2006, 12:08:03 PM
Just got off the phone with redline and it's $100 for the conversion.. You use your gauge and the original face.. You have to send off minimally your instrument cluster with the circuit board and gauge...  I'll send off one here probably after the holidays... I guess I'll get to ripping into Dana now... NO CHARGER TO DRIVE !!!!!!    :icon_smile_sad:

Troy

Troy, what exactly does the conversion actually do?   I'm under the assumption it prevents all those amps from directly flowing through the ammeter?

Doug,
I'm not exactly sure, but they do want the instrument cluster frame with the circuit board attached and of course, the amp gauge to be converted.. I'm assuming they will be putting volt-meter "mechanical hardware" in lew of the original amp hardware behind the gauge and then feeding off the 12V input to the voltage limiter..  You take your red and black wires that originally went to the amp gauge and connect them and heat shrink for protection, thus completing the circuit. The original gauge wire I believe can handle the amperage, it's the OEM amp gauge itself that gets old and can't handle it.. Them claim that the gauge maintains it's original look, including needle..........

Troy
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

Dodge Don

Check out Mopar Collectors Guide June 2006. They have a whole article on dash fires and the culprit is always the ammeter getting fried. They cover how Redline Gauge Works does conversions to German VDO voltmeters that look stock but are more accurate and eliminate the risk of fires.