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DAYTONA UPDATE , PILLARS , INSTALLED AND POLISHED

Started by daytonalo, November 16, 2006, 12:38:20 AM

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nascarxx29

My original didnt have them.If ribs are accepted for daytona .I remember seeing a post on hoods
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,8213.0.html


From the original cars Ive seen .Cant say I seen one with ribs.Theorys on replacements and different stamping vendors.Is what I believed
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

daytonalo


nascarxx29

Hemi Geno had this to say on that subject on daytona hoods

I fully intend to use a '70 Charger hood on my car, but the ribs will be removed since I can't say that they were there in the first place.  The few pictures of the car I have with its original hood open don't show the front lip area.
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

Then it was a possibilty that early daytonas didnt have ribs .And later ones did .Daytonas Schedule Production Dates were from 4-27 April 27-6-12 June 12.My car had a 606 June 6 SPD.And had the original smooth underside hood on it
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

BigBlockSam

i have the original hood from the playboy daytona and it has ribs  if that helps anyboby . mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm--ribs would taste good rite now.  i'm hungry.  see yaaaaa
I won't be wronged, I wont be Insulted and I wont be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to others, and I require the same from them.

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nascarxx29

 :icon_smile_big: Thats the F6 green one with no fender scoops and black button door handles.But at one time the daytona ship list was #385.With my car being #381.Thought has close to the last .Another copy of same list surfaces has #501.You just never with chrysler.But it seems to be alot of ribbed hoods in circulation.I havent came across a smooth one.I offered this one totally free to the guy who got my car with the smooth hood.And he left it behind .I hasnt replyed back to me if and when hes taking.My opinion been a smooth hood like ones Ive seen sell for $3000.00.It wouldnt still be in my hands



1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

BigBlockSam

QuoteThats the F6 green one with no fender scoops and black button door handles 

correct.  :yesnod:



i had a smooth hood, with no ribs . i took it off the daytona i found in the junk yard many yrs ago . the same daytona i got the wing braces and other Daytona stuff from . i sold it a while back for $2800 . that money went to my daytona project . i paid $50 for the green daytona hood. it has a little rust . Rene
I won't be wronged, I wont be Insulted and I wont be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to others, and I require the same from them.

  [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/347b5v5.jpg[/img

nascarxx29

Good find definately worth it today .Another guy I knew of in NJ who has a 69 charger who added the 426 .Had a real daytona nose $ 2000 and a daytona wing .I could have got that wing for about a $ 800 $1000.Those day and prices are long gone.Did you record the vin of the fallen daytona
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

BigBlockSam

QuoteDid you record the vin   

no, this was about 1980-81. i knew nothing about recording vins .  :shruggy:
I won't be wronged, I wont be Insulted and I wont be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to others, and I require the same from them.

  [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/347b5v5.jpg[/img

daytonalo

So what did we learn ? they came both ways , wow what a waste of breath again !!!!!!!!!!!!!

69_500

I believe that Gene has since found a Daytona hood for his car. Which is of course a side note.



hemigeno

Quote from: daytonalo on November 18, 2006, 02:25:03 AM
So what did we learn ? they came both ways , wow what a waste of breath again !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ummm, that's a very broad generalization there Larry.  Did you even bother to check with your "sources" to find out what ratio of cars were found to have ribbed hoods?  What verification was done by you, Galen or Mike Goyette to confirm that such cars have NEVER had any bodywork done to them (even damage by the shipper, the dealership, or an automotive repair shop that wanted to conceal the fact that they damaged a car)?  Or compared those cars' position on the shipping list to see if there is any correlation between a very late conversion/ship date and ribbed hoods?  Any Day One "right off the transporter" pictures of Daytonas with ribbed hoods?  Did anyone check those ribbed hoods for a complete paint job in areas that Creative couldn't reach with a paint gun when they initially installed the hoods (and do you even know what procedures they used??)? 

It cannot be argued that the vast majority of Daytona hoods have no ribs.  I can also say that I have not yet personally seen an original Daytona with a ribbed hood.  I cannot and will not say that there were never any Daytonas that had ribbed hoods installed, but I know what I expect to see when a Daytona's hood is raised. 

Let's assume for the sake of discussion (or in your case, argument - since that is what you want to do) that there were a very small number of Daytonas with ribbed hoods for no explicable reason.  If you were really interested in doing a clone to the highest degree of accuracy, would you really want to put a ribbed hood on a car - claiming that it is patterned after such a small minority of cars and flying in the face of the rest of the cars' pattern?  Sounds like you're really not trying to be all that accurate after all...

It's your clone - build it how you want to, but don't tell me what is and is not correct for an original Daytona based on little (if any) evidence to back up your claim.

Get some facts together and then tell us what we have learned.   :eyes:


daytonalo

Two things sunshine , Dave has always made the statement that DAYTONA'S NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER, NEVER came with ribbed hoods . I could care less, my car for Christ sake has a Vega plug , I tear into the orig cars because they  always get the small details wrong when it would take one of JERRY'S kids 2 hours to make it right . Ribbed or no ribs I could care less , although I love correcting the so called experts when a guy like me just gets into the hobby !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hemigeno

Quote from: daytonalo on November 18, 2006, 11:05:41 AM
Two things sunshine , Dave has always made the statement that DAYTONA'S NEVER,NEVER,NEVER,NEVER, NEVER came with ribbed hoods . I could care less, my car for Christ sake has a Vega plug , I tear into the orig cars because the always get the small details wrong when it would take one of JERRY'S kids 2 hours to make it right . Ribbed or no ribs I could care less , although I love correcting the so called experts when a guy like my just gets into the hobby !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, no evidence, just claims.

Keep talking, sunshine... 

daytonalo

I just got my engine and I'm confused !!!!! I have 4 holes on each valve cover .Are they flag holder's or spark plug holes ?  :icon_smile_big:

nascarxx29

He also has a memory lapse .Of who found and told whom where to get the vega window plug
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

daytonalo

Ill send two hookers over !!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU DAVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ghoste

Quote from: daytonalo on November 18, 2006, 11:05:41 AM
I could care less, my car for Christ sake has a Vega plug , I tear into the orig cars because they  always get the small details wrong when it would take one of JERRY'S kids 2 hours to make it right .

Actually, you love tearing into the replica's as well.  The most recent example would be the thread on the #22 69 Daytona spotted.  I'm sure you will remind me that car has what you feel are large details, not small ones, but you do point out that you will build a clone down to every detail.

Quote from: daytonalo on November 17, 2006, 12:50:14 AM
I will build a # 71 clone down to every detail .   Larry

PocketThunder

"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

daytonalo

Anyone can sit on the sidelines and try to pick a daytona apart , but until you or anyone else has built a daytona with a plug , nose that doesnt look like one of JERRY'S KID'S hug it and headlight doors that operate like the originals did just sit ion your couch in snoppy pajamas and watch !!!!!!!! Dane , Larry [hotrod] RENE , MIKE G will vouch that it is a great deal of work to get it right . My car is a clone and I am one anal son of a bitch that will not settle for anything less than perfection !!!!!!!!!!!!.  I would have included Dave but the clone he had did not have a plug , it was more of a hotrod , well sort of ,it had a 318 !      Thank you , rachmed

nascarxx29

My 70 318 AC clone XP29GOG178701.Not only had the rear plug .The back glass was from a 69 500


1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

Car was done in 80-s and we fabbed up our on parts .Wasnt much supply of vendors and parts as now.Ted removed from his original daytona the trunk hinges.For me to copy from


1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

daytonalo

Sorry I stand corrected , I that the car that janak built ?

dads_69

Nascarxx. I see the rubber seal is body color or is that something else other than rubber?
Mark
Hey, you can hate the game but don't hate the player.

daytonalo