final race at the end of fast and the furious 1 (charger v.s. supra)

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

this movie really made some kids appreciate the dodge charger with its power,although, there is no way in high hell that a supra could hold its own to a blown 70 hemi charger(yes i know it wasnt a blown car or even a hemi)-MATT


http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xv1id9bg1TI&mode=user&search=

[bordin34]

LOL it took a minute to run a 1/4 mile.

[Charger_Fan]

(yes i know it wasnt a blown car or even a hemi)

Nor could it do a wheelie without assistance from a Hollywood special effect team.

[Schuler]

I just hate it when the front of my car lifts....while the tires are spinning.

[Mike DC]

   
You know how they made the "MonkeeMobile" to do wheelies in the 1960s?  They just solid-mounted the rear axle of one of the GTOs and then added a whole bunch of heavy ballast in the back end.  Voila! Problem solved.

You know what they did for "Herbie" the Love Bug?  They literally lifted the Beetle's front end off the ground with thin cables for the wheelie shots.  Problem solved.


But what does MODERN Hollywood do? 

They pay skilled fabricators to invent special-effected hydraulic bars underneath the Charger, and then digitially edit it all out later one frame at a time, totalling up probably tens of thousands of dollars spent for that little scene . . . and it still looked completely fake compared to the olde cheap ways.

 

[Silver R/T]

anything to impress "tuner" crowd...

[terrible one]

I just hate it when the front of my car lifts....while the tires are spinning.

Yeah, one of the biggest faults in that scene. Show me any car that can really do that.

[MoparManJim]

at first I was askly beliving that scene when I went back and watch that very scene myself and got thinking.."how in the heck can a charger do a wheelie and spin the tires AT the same time?" somthing there just didn't add up right, the light goes green and the charger starts spining the tires and the front end goes up an the car is still spining for a second with the nose up in the air! LOL

What crack me up was the side shot scenes of the 1/4 mile run where the supra was next to the rear driver side of the charger and the next shot they show the supra trying to catch up to the charger LOL an was alittle back behind the charger.

[Drache]

Then proceed to wreck the charger by having it bounce off and get air off the truck instead of slamming straigh into it.....

[MoparManJim]

Then proceed to wreck the charger by having it bounce off and get air off the truck instead of slamming straigh into it.....

yea now that you mention it, that charger should have slam into that semi truck instead of flipping, how in the heck would a flip like that happen if all 4 tires is pose to be on the ground and the car (when Vin Look) was already right on the semi? I know they had a pipe ramp set up but in real life with no grad rails or anything how would that had happen?

[bull]

They pay skilled fabricators to invent special-effected hydraulic bars underneath the Charger, and then digitially edit it all out later one frame at a time, totalling up probably tens of thousands of dollars spent for that little scene . . . and it still looked completely fake compared to the olde cheap ways.

And I bet it would have cost less to actually build an engine capable of lifting the front end of a Charger off the ground.

[JMF]

That Charger sounds awesome though, what engine did they have in it for the making of the film?

[tan top]

if i remember correctly  it was just a  B  or  an RB   motor with a 4 barrel  & a dummy blower   bolted to the hood . probaberly had the sound dubbed in from something else also, when you see the engine  shot  it has a blown  old  392 type   whale motor in it , witch i thought was unusual ,  instead of useing  a elephant motor  ,  same as the other thread  when was the last time you saw a car carrying the front wheels of the line & smoking the tires , i think not but hey thats Hollywood and ricer movies

[JMF]

It has some cheesy lines as well "900 horses of Detroit muscle, it's a beast"

[SRT-440]

this movie really made some kids appreciate the dodge charger with its power,although, there is no way in high hell that a supra could hold its own to a blown 70 hemi charger(yes i know it wasnt a blown car or even a hemi)-MATT


http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xv1id9bg1TI&mode=user&search=

Actually, there a plenty of highly modded street supras that run 10's and even 9's in the quarter..go to streetfire.com and search "supra" and there is one running low 10's on street tires.

[CNH 320]

And I bet it would have cost less to actually build an engine capable of lifting the front end of a Charger off the ground.

That's what I though also. As a grand finale to the Dukes of Hazzard's seventh season, the General Lee wheel-stander was to be used in the last episode Opening Night At The Boar's Nest and to be used regularly throughout the eighth season. The Second Unit Director insisted that the blower on top of the motor in the back seat not been seen in the final cut, so a lower profile carburator was installed. With the carburator installed, the motor was unable to lift the front wheels off of the ground with two actors in the front seats. Therefore, this entire scene was scrapped.




For more info; http://www.generalleefanclub.com/unique/unique.html (scroll all the way down).

[Mass_Mopar]

The only thing that was realistic in that scene was that the charger threw a rod and the supra had to take a 2nd shot of N2O to keep up with it 
Though a friend of mine works at Westboro Toyota Dodge, they had at least 1 800+hp twin turbo Supra around the shop.

[myk]

this movie really made some kids appreciate the dodge charger with its power,although, there is no way in high hell that a supra could hold its own to a blown 70 hemi charger(yes i know it wasnt a blown car or even a hemi)-MATT


http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xv1id9bg1TI&mode=user&search=

Actually, there a plenty of highly modded street supras that run 10's and even 9's in the quarter..go to streetfire.com and search "supra" and there is one running low 10's on street tires.

The 'Supra in the movie is also an actual tuner-modified car, owned by one of the crew that is capable of very respectable numbers:  

544 Horsepower @ 6,800 rpms
Maximum engine speed: 7,770 rpms
0-60 in 4.3 seconds
0-100 in 9.2 seconds
1 mile in 12.2 seconds at 115 mph
Top speed: 185 mph
Skidpad: 0.98 g's
Slalom time: 65 mph
Curb weight: 3,601 lbs

The 'Supra, modified or otherwise is a great car.  The Supra in the movie is a beast in its own right: http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/supra_fastandfurious.asp

[1968 Charger B5]

yea it was a stupid scene, but shouldnt we be glad there was a mopar in that movie, they could have used a chevy or something else.  yea they were trying to please the tuner crowd, but all three of those movies have had mopars in them, thats kinda cool to me

fast and furious -  70 charger
2 fast 2 furious - 70 hemi challenger
tokyo drift  -  70 gtx  at then end

[Drache]

In Tokyo Drift it was a 1970 Roadrunner "Hammer" 

[CB]

it breaks my heart to see the 70 crashing

[tan top]

yea it was a stupid scene, but shouldnt we be glad there was a mopar in that movie, they could have used a chevy or something else.  yea they were trying to please the tuner crowd, but all three of those movies have had mopars in them, thats kinda cool to me

fast and furious -  70 charger
2 fast 2 furious - 70 hemi challenger
tokyo drift  -  70 gtx  at then end

    true 

[MoparManJim]

it breaks my heart to see the 70 crashing

nea he didn't crash.. he just tript is all LOL .. but the landing was a doozy though! They reused that charger in Herbie Fulley Loaded where Lindsay Lohan set inside it. When they make FNF4 I hope they bring the "Hammer" back with Vin and maybe some mopars and or even afew 3rd gen chargers for you 3rd gen car lovers LOL. It would be nice to see them halfting to jump an intersection with a charger but making the car serive the landing though or any kind of jump with a mopar an have it serive.

In FNF2 they had a Camero also, what year was that as I'm not good with those kind of cars, arn't they mopars also? I'm mostly good with 2nd Gen chargers. Yea it made me alittle sad when they crash the Challenger in FNF2 and then jump the Camero LOL, the challenger got a  . They could have had spared the Challenger.. poor car  .

        Jim

[Drache]

I had heard the same thing before that the F&F car was the on in Herbie Fully Loaded EXCEPT I know that the Volo Museum bought the crashed Charger before Herbie Fully Loaded ever started filming and had it in their Museum with a price tag of $50,000. The one in Herbie Unloaded was greenish with numbers and decals all over it. Unless there were two crashed Chargers in F&F.... 

[terrible one]

Does anyone have a shot of the Charger in the Herbie movie?

[MoparManJim]

the charger in Herbie Fully Loaded is the same one from FNF, they repainted the car to what I heard for in Herbie Fully Loaded. Yes I think it was Volo that had bought it when they was starting the movie because if I remember right someone said when they got done it went back. I think it is also on the DVD that they mention it about they didn't have much time with the car. 

[Drache]

Ok, the hting that had me stumped was the fact that the Charger in Herbie looked a faded green with decals, yet the F&F car when it was in the Herbie movie still had the original black. I just noticed a comment from someone called volobrian stating you can see where the hood was welded shut where the blower hole was.

On a side note, the '68 Cuda in the crash to pass car is supposed to be a Hemi car. Not sure if it was or not.

[Drache]

From what I can figure out the movie company must have purchase the F&F car from volo since it's been sold. I don't think that volo would have allowed the car to be painted and the hole welded shut if they were only loaning the car out. I wonder if the movie company paid the full $50,000 for it? I noticed that Volo now owns the Herby car so maybe they made a deal.

On a side note you can now purchase the '70 Hemi Challenger from 2F2F for $89,000!

[MoparManJim]

Does anyone have a shot of the Charger in the Herbie movie?

I did a google search for it but came up empty handed though. I also ask over on the other board about the screen cap with the charger. 

[Rolling_Thunder]

guys keep in mind you can build a Charger that will pull the wheels for what ?  under $50,000      That Supra had over $115,000 into it...     and it still only ran 12's

[pettyfan43]

this movie really made some kids appreciate the dodge charger with its power,although, there is no way in high hell that a supra could hold its own to a blown 70 hemi charger(yes i know it wasnt a blown car or even a hemi)-MATT


http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xv1id9bg1TI&mode=user&search=

Actually, there a plenty of highly modded street supras that run 10's and even 9's in the quarter..go to streetfire.com and search "supra" and there is one running low 10's on street tires.

The 'Supra in the movie is also an actual tuner-modified car, owned by one of the crew that is capable of very respectable numbers: 

544 Horsepower @ 6,800 rpms
Maximum engine speed: 7,770 rpms
0-60 in 4.3 seconds
0-100 in 9.2 seconds
1 mile in 12.2 seconds at 115 mph
Top speed: 185 mph
Skidpad: 0.98 g's
Slalom time: 65 mph
Curb weight: 3,601 lbs

The 'Supra, modified or otherwise is a great car.  The Supra in the movie is a beast in its own right: http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/supra_fastandfurious.asp

It's still a yoyota and it still sucks! It's an ugly doorstop and will NEVER have the looks and style of ANY Dodge Charger!

Sorry but I HATE tooners and I REALLY hate yoytas! they think they own the freaking world, I got two words for em - SCREW TOYOTA!