PILLAR MOULDINGS DAYTONA

[daytonalo]

that may be true . If anyone has ever really studied how the glass sits in gaskit and the how the gaskit itself has locking rubber incorporated in its design, its pretty clear that there is no way to access the screws. Again I think that the tabs on the gaskit side were not screwed in , just sandwiched between gaskit and body

[nascarxx29]

?  I remember seeing the front windshield logo.The back not sure I was interested in seeing the cars build date and glass code.I have this copy of a conversion list used by creative industries in numbered process order .What conversion to be done to the 69 charger to become a daytona.I have to find it but dont recall it outlining windshield removal.Out of steps taken of conversion.I have one for the superbird somewhere with much more working details

[nascarxx29]

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[daytonalo]

Well that cleared up the confusion on my end

[Ghoste]

Please don't take me for trying to be a jackass, but the first sheet isn't really a process checkoff but a safety check buyoff.  For example, the list doesn't show "add nose cone" or "install wing".  The second one seems to be a process sheet but it starts at item #25.

[daytonalo]

No way , after a overwhelming show of hands ,I was voted the only jack -ass here . There is no room for two , sorry !!!!!!!!!!!

[nascarxx29]

Thats not the say its the all end all to all work required .Only document I have .The one I have for the superbird is more explicit.Didnt find anything else pertainng to subject in these documents

http://aerowarriors.com/cda.html

[nascarxx29]

Found the other page of the creative worklist.Take note to number item #6 on this last page I turned up

[Ghoste]

Cool!  Thanks a bunch and that certainly seems to help with my question since it lists the back glass individually.
So, back to how they installed A pillar mouldings?

[hemigeno]

I don't have a lot of time at the moment, but I'll quickly chime in.

The mouldings were screwed to the A pillar on both the gasket side and the driprail side.  They stuck the moulding tabs in between the lock strip and the main gasket, and ran screws through the gasket into the A pillar.  I have the screw holes on my A Pillar that evidence this very fact.

Daytonas were SUPPOSED to have the nasty-looking sealant that was seen on Dave's car.  Well, they weren't supposed to make it nasty looking, but that was how they sealed the windshield gasket up after messing with it for the A Pillar trim.

More tomorrow, including pictures of my car's A pillar with no gasket or windshield installed...

Geno

P.S.  Creative got the cars with the windshield and rear glass installed.  CI made no attempt to carefully remove the back glass, they just broke it out and most times there are glass fragments from this breakage still in the car in the package tray area.  There have been several instances of this noted on unrestored cars (mine included).  They didn't have to remove the windshield, so those were Hamtramck-installed.

[daytonalo]

Thank you ,   I follow you but have a question. Were the tabs inserted in the middle of the lock strip or between the lock rubber and gasket. Are you sure that screws were right up against the glass or were there just holes drilled in the gaskit to have access to the screws with a screw driver ? I have a measurement of 22 1/8 x 2 1/2 not including the 90 degree bends , is this correct and what are the measurement's on the bent edges ?  Larry

[daytonalo]

I made some phone calls and the conclusion I came up with is , the reason superbird pillar stainless has two holes on the front side was for the ease of installation campared to daytona stainless because of the mounting screws on gaskit side .

[nascarxx29]

The superbird engineers took lessons from the daytona engineers short comings.They improved on the nose to body fender seals..And as you say screwed on the pillars from the front.Most likely to ease production.As more numbers cars had to be built.As compared to the daytonaThrew on a $37 vinyl roof on superbirds to eliminate smoothing out the rear window plug. .And all superbirds had PS and Disc brakes.And added the runner logo to the wing uprights.Where the daytona had nothing on the uprights.Different colors and engine choices for the superbird

[nascarxx29]

We couldnt bring ourselves to hack up the superbird parts cars a-pillars for the superbird convertible.I had thought maybe the top of windshield stainless trim from a conv .Might be close from being already concave to modify.These are available in fiberglass to get chromed.If we decided to add the only missing detail.What the after market need to be supplying is backwindow trim for the wingcars.You can get the backwindow .But the original backwindow trim pieces are pricey.Sold a set for a superbird couple years ago guy offered $1500.00 and they went .What would they be worth nowadays

[daytonalo]

I will have them done shortly , they will not have the tabs on the gaskit side , They will be kind of sprung into place and then screws on the back side of pillar will hold them in place . I will keep you updated . Larry

[nascarxx29]

? Is this for real or scam .Seller has no actual pictures of parts for sale

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MoPar-1970-Plymouth-Superbird-A-pillar-windshield-trim_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ140708QQhashZitem150057801064QQihZ005QQitemZ150057801064QQrdZ1

[69_500]

I can tell you this much, I haven't seen too many unrestored cars that don't have the gobbed up goo next to the A pillar mouldings. Other than the car that Ghoste posted a picture of I can't think of any. Most of them you can clearly see fingerprints in the goo too.

[nascarxx29]

Mine had fingerprints in the sealer

[Ghoste]

That picture was from 110610 so there may have been extra care given to it knowing it was a press fleet car?

[69_500]

I'll check out the next car in line in a few weekends, and see if it is sloppy or neat as well.

[Chris G.]

I can tell you this much, I haven't seen too many unrestored cars that don't have the gobbed up goo next to the A pillar mouldings. Other than the car that Ghoste posted a picture of I can't think of any. Most of them you can clearly see fingerprints in the goo too.

Danny, you bring up a good point. I am pretty sure Vance did the Daytona in Jersey for Chris Sauer (or Sawyer), and there is goobs of sloppy stuff all the way up the pillars. He did it intentionally, which was very refreshing. I think the car has sold, and I'll bet Dave drops in to let us know what happened to it. 

[nascarxx29]

Yes Vance did Chris Sauers daytona

[69_500]

Looks like a very nice example of a wing car. Definately a nice car.

[daytonalo]

I live in NJ where front tags are mandatory , that said I never run front tags on anything classic , never mind a daytona . Man does that look like poopy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!