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PILLAR MOULDINGS DAYTONA

Started by daytonalo, November 11, 2006, 03:47:36 PM

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Chris G.

Quote from: daytonalo on November 15, 2006, 07:59:36 PM
I live in NJ where front tags are mandatory , that said I never run front tags on anything classic , never mind a daytona . Man does that look like poopy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You don't need to run a front plate on anything with a "QQ" plate in Jersey.

daytonalo

Legally yes , its required, that said I never do , its ugly .Anyone with any taste will agree that a daytona or s-bird looks like crap with a front plate

Chris G.

Quote from: daytonalo on November 15, 2006, 09:25:04 PM
Legally yes , its required,

Legally NO, it is NOT required. Go look it up if you want.

And yes, I do agree a plate on the front of a wing car looks bad.

Historic vehicles
General inspections are not required for historic or collector vehicles. To be classified as a "historic vehicle" it must be:
At least 25 years old
Used only for exhibition purposes or manufactured before 1945
Specially registered with a QQ plate displayed on the rear of the vehicle


daytonalo

wow, so why have they given me two tags at dmv for the last 15 years, I have a local cop who hangs out at my shop and in NJ,NJ,NJ,NJ it must have two tags , which I never do anyway

Chris G.

Quote from: daytonalo on November 15, 2006, 10:12:03 PM
wow, so why have they given me two tags at dmv for the last 15 years,

They give you 2 plates so you have the option of putting it on the front (like the owner of that Daytona did).

QuoteI have a local cop who hangs out at my shop and in NJ,NJ,NJ,NJ it must have two tags , which I never do anyway

Your cop is wrong.

daytonalo

With that , I will put the other tag on another vehicle

Chris G.

Quote from: daytonalo on November 15, 2006, 11:02:28 PM
With that , I will put the other tag on another vehicle

Funny thing is, nobody would even care. Just don't get in a wreck or pulled over.

nascarxx29

They dont seem enforce the 2 plate rule never been pulled over for it in NJ.But its on the superbird where you have to drill holes in the top of the nose I never liked to do and how that looks. If your were using the #3412652 daytona superbird bracket available in repo form. Same bracket Pictured on Chris Sauers daytona.I had to use a copy of that bracket to mount a front plate on my friends MD daytona.But used nylon mounting hardware to nose.Better to snap bolts .Then damage nose on low clearances.I got a picture of a superbird wearing the plate where it was required.it was on my friends superbird he bought in NJ 1973
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Chris G.

Quote from: nascarxx29 on November 16, 2006, 10:21:19 AM
They dont seem enforce the 2 plate rule

Ughhh, :shruggy: It's almost as if Dave and Daytonalo are the same person...hmmm...  :scratchchin:

I'm done here. Let's try and get this thread back on track.

nascarxx29

This is how the factory intended it to be done on the superbird what do you think.Even if is off subject Chris.As for the daytonlo since you askd the ?  and made the remark nope its not my alter ego.It a guy who was building a clone daytona in my area .With a 70 charger I told him about in the paper .And I was generous enough to allow full access to my original car.To study wingcar related detail on and access to my archive materails and located and provided parts from my stock .As he never owned one.And drove in my friends from MD real one
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Chris G.

Quote from: nascarxx29 on November 16, 2006, 10:42:48 AM
This is how the factory intended it to be done on the superbird what do you think.

Yes Dave, obviously back in the day you needed 2 plates. Heck, even today you need two plates if you register it as a regular car. Now this is where you need to pay close attention... If you have "QQ" plates, you do not need to put a plate on the front of the car. Do you understand what I am typing? Please say yes.

nascarxx29

I agree but it seems I see a picture you posted with chris sauers daytona wearing a front plate that is a qq plate.That is on a daytona.Which as you say it not required.Which in and this is my opinion.That on a daytona  it doesnt look all that bad.Again this is my opinion the superbird one is not pretty wearing a front plate
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Chris G.

Quote from: nascarxx29 on November 16, 2006, 10:56:32 AM
I agree but it seems I see a picture you posted with chris sauers daytona wearing a front plate that is a qq plate.That is on a daytona.Which as you say it not required.

If it makes you feel better, would you like me to post a picture of my car without the front plate? How about John's Daytona without the front plate? I have more if you want? The Daytona picture I posted has a plate, yes. That doesn't mean he was required to have it, it just means he felt like putting it on the car. I posted on page 2, a direct copy of what the DMV says is required by law.

Why are you so stubborn about EVERYTHING posted on this board? The question was, "Do you need a front plate on a QQ car?", and I answered it. It's over, why push the issue?  ???

nascarxx29

Hey its just my opinion .Of the 2 wingcars styling cues .which one I like and dislike nothing more nothing less.In response to daytonlo statement that I would never put a front plate on a classic as it look and I quote poopy



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I live in NJ where front tags are mandatory , {{{{{{{{{{{that said I never run front tags on anything classic , never mind a daytona}}} . Man does that look like poopy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!








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1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

PocketThunder

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We do not need a front plate in Minnesota, does that help?   :icon_smile_big:
"Liberalism is a disease that attacks one's ability to understand logic. Extreme manifestations include the willingness to continue down a path of self destruction, based solely on a delusional belief in a failed ideology."

nascarxx29

Thanks pocket thunder.Texas were I lived was a 1 plate state.And this doesnt apply to the subject .But I found it interesting that the plates stay with the car owner to owner.I was looking up on google NJ qq plate info to see what I could find out.As I can recall from friends with cars that had not used 2 qq plates getting warnings .And this might have been years back when they made QQs available.That Im not aware if they changed this law.Havent ordered any QQ plate since the 80-s when my wingcars were driven
1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

   
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General inspections are not required for historic or collector vehicles. To be classified as a "historic vehicle" it must be:
At least 25 years old
Used only for exhibition purposes or manufactured before 1945
Specially registered with a QQ plate displayed on the rear of the vehicle-----------{As Chris G said}
                                                                                                               {Daytonlos statement Legally yes , its required, that said I never do , its ugly  .{Where as we see hes wrong and Chris G was right}
Daytonlos statementWith that , I will put the other tag on another vehicle

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1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

Chris G.

You lost me Dave, but it was to be expected. 

BigBlockSam

hey
in nj , where i live. you only have to use 1 plate on qq cars . they use to put a letter in with your new plates saying. if you only use one plate , store it away and hand it in when you hand in the other plate . i just changed two of my cars to qq plates and they don't include that letter with the plates anymore . Rene
I won't be wronged, I wont be Insulted and I wont be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to others, and I require the same from them.

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Old Moparz

I used to live in New Jersey & still have a crapload of NJ plates, all in sets of two. I don't use them on my cars anymore since I live in New York now.   :D
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daytonalo

I learn something every day , Now If I figure out how to walk upright !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nascarxx29

This should clarify things. Annie has been telling me all along that only the rear plate needs to be displayed after 1999.
She found this in another forum.
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Loc: NJ   Re: re: nj front tags [Re: the3rsss]
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NJ law says historic cars must have a historic QQ tag displayed from the REAR of the car ( this info is right from there website) but they sent me a pair and everytime I go to a show the classics have tags frt & rear in nj. Anybody have any insight into this.


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I only learned about this a few months ago and have found that many classic car owners don't know the actual law regarding these tags.
In 1999, NJ changed the law regarding front license plates on antique cars. The law now makes use of the front plate as optional .

Here's the applicable law (see last sentance of statute):
TITLE 39 MOTOR VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC REGULATION
39:3-27.4. Historic motor vehicles; registration, license plates, display
2.Any owner of an historic motor vehicle who is a resident of this State may register such motor vehicle under the provisions of this act. Application for registering an historic vehicle shall be on forms prescribed by the director. Upon proper application and payment of the prescribed fee, the director shall issue a special nonconventional registration and special license plate for each historic motor vehicle registered in this State. Such registration and license plate shall be valid during the period of time that the vehicle is owned by the registrant. The fee for such registration and license plate shall be $25.00. The license plate shall bear the word "historic" and shall be of such design and colors as the director may determine. Notwithstanding the provisions of R.S.39:3-33 or any other law to the contrary, an owner of a vehicle registered as an historic vehicle , or any vehicle manufactured before 1945, shall not be required to display more than one special license plate issued for that vehicle, which plate shall be displayed on the rear of the vehicle.

L.1964,c.195,s.2; amended 1999, c.305.

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

daytonalo

Well thank you , Dave and Chris, I will right down the statue because I know i will get in an argument with a jerkoff cop in the future . Larry

Chris G.

Quote from: nascarxx29 on November 16, 2006, 07:39:15 PM
This should clarify things. Annie has been telling me all along that only the rear plate needs to be displayed after 1999.

Dave, commit yourself tonight. ;) You needed Annie to confirm what I have been saying all along? You South Jersey people are on a different planet I swear. So sad, so sad. :rotz:

daytonalo

sorry , its in the water ! I travel a great deal and where ever I go ,I :bump: :bump: :bump: :bump: :bump: :bump: always hear you must be from jersey ! I guess its a nice way of calling me a jerk-off !!!!!!!!!!!