Any deer hunters here?

OldGuy · November 04, 2006, 12:58:01 PM

General deer hunting season (mule deer) ended about a week ago here in Utah. I went out with the oldest son on the first day. Last time I went hunting was about 42 years ago - back in 1964. We went out to Eastern Utah where extended family members owned a ranch. I took my son to the location where my grandfather and dad took me for my first hunt. They always got a deer. Back in 1964, they had set up a rock blind on the side of a hill across from a deer path. The blind was long gone, but we did find a good location. However, we ran into a couple of my cousins and their families at the same location. We agreed upon who would take the first shot. Scoped a big 5-point buck coming off the mountain but it went down at an angle away from us towards where my cousins were. My cousin nailed it with one shot. We were bummed. Saw a lot of does, but my son had a buck only permit. We are looking forward to going back out next year. It was my son's first time deer hunting and it was a lot of fun reminiscing with my son about the first time I went. The first time I went, I knocked over a big 4-point buck. I gave the antlers to my dad to mount in his bedroom. When my son was little and we would visit my mom and dad, he would head from the bedroom to look at the antlers. I guess that's how he developed "Buck Fever".

Picture of 4-point buck I shot back in 1964.

last426 · November 04, 2006, 01:29:49 PM

I'll never forget the hunting trip my dad and I went on in his new Ferrari. Ahh, it was 1962 and my wildman father just got a new 12 cylinder gt (I think it was the gt). That car was not made for the road and, in the fall in Reno, he had to put an electric blanket on it every night so it would start in the morning. But wow, when it started... Gun metal gray, sort of bluish interior, big ole harnesses to keep one inside the aluminum tube if one wanted.

So up comes deer season and the rumors of a deer by the Tracy power plant outside of Sparks. Off we go (the fastest I had ever gone at the time), with the scoped .270 in the back; I, around 10, was well armed with my blue cub scout knife (still have that bugger), off and running towards Mustang ranch then Tracy. Got there and the hunt was on.

Found the fabled buck and bam, bam, bam, he missed a few but finally hit it. The darn deer was wounded (I never really figured how we would have got it home anyway) and now we were in the stalking mode. The deer forded the Truckee River with us hot on its tail. Bam, bam, bam, some more shots rang out, with the old man shooting at it across the river. Shooting but missing -- he never was a good shot with a rifle and even worse when he had some Christian Brothers in him.

Hmm, what to do. Hell, jump in the river of course and get that deer. As the sun was setting we were wading, with my dad finally putting me on his shoulders. Unfortunately, towards the edge of the river it got deep and the best he could do was throw me towards the far bank. Splash, now we both were totally wet.

But the hunt continued. Bam, bam, still missing and now out of bullets. Give me your knife, he said, opening the scout knife and holding it between clenched teeth. Through the bushes and brambles we went, with the deer always just out of reach. By now it was dark and the hunt was over; the deer had won. Going back to the car was easy, even the river was easy now that we were both soaked. Removed our clothes, yep every stitch of them -- gotta protect the inside of that car. Raced back to Reno, pulled up in the driveway, and flopped out of the Ferrari naked as jaybirds. Ahh, that story is still floating around the family and was fun to recount -- hail to the horse, it got us there and back in style.

Oh, here is a link to the car. Unfortunately it suffered a big wreck in 63 or so. Kim http://www.barchetta.cc/english/All.Ferraris/Detail/3539GT.250GT.htm

Blown70 · November 04, 2006, 01:35:31 PM

Man I used to live in RENO and loved it there. All the places you just mentioned.

That sure was a nice car pops had.

Tom

daytonalo · November 04, 2006, 02:03:38 PM

I love the stories about when the hunter gets shot , when animals fight back , either by fate or the animal gets a jump on you rednecks !!!!!!! If your that desperate for food I will send you food stamps !!!! Obviously you think it is OK to kill animals , so therefore I want to come over and kill all of your animals !!!!!!!!

Charger_Fan · November 04, 2006, 02:21:21 PM

How about when they just eat the hunter's lunch?

I'm not into hunting, but I do see the importance of it. If nobody helps control the deer herds, they will overpopulate their feeding areas & starve to death by the hundreds...not a good way to go. They will also be more plentiful on the roadways, where folks like to drive their Chargers on nice fall sunday outings.

The only thing that pisses me off is when some guy kills a deer & doesn't use the meat, only does it for the trophy head on the wall.

OldGuy · November 04, 2006, 03:21:14 PM

Daytonalo - Yup, we know, "deer have feelings,too!!" Famous PETA line

Save your food stamps and go treat yourself to a veggie burger on us

I see that you and the rest of the east coast pastry chefs don't understand that deer hunting out west is a means of wild life management. I guess the difference with us "rednecks" is that we would rather eat a little healthy venison than a constant diet of hormone-laden feedlot beef you dish up for your families.

Guns N Rotors · November 04, 2006, 05:05:30 PM

Last year, on the second day of shotgun season, it was pouring down rain.
I was the only one in the group to venture out that morning. Everyone
said I was nuts to be out in that weather. "Deer don't move in this kinda rain"
they all said.

After reaching my deer blind, I settled in and set my Mossberg 835 down.
I dug out my thermos from my backpack and carefully poured a cup of
coffee. I brought the cup to my lips watching the rain dancing in my coffee
and I thought "Man, I love how much this s*!t sucks!"

Just as I took my first sip...THERE, 30 yards in front of me! Two doe...looking at me.
I eased down my cup and pulled the Mossberg to my shoulder... out of the corner
of my eye I see movement on the left. HORNS!!! Moving left to right going to the
opening in the high grass. Wait..wait...BAM! Down he goes. My heart is pounding
in my chest. A nice six point.

As I stand-up, out jumps a big bodied 8 point! He's looking at the 6 point like
"What the hell happened to you, buddy?" I snapped a twig and the 8 pointer
looked at me and flew like the wind up the hill.

My radio crackled to life, my best friend Larry said, "Well...what are you shooting at?"

My reply, "Deer down, deer down."

bull · November 04, 2006, 05:23:48 PM

I like to hunt but 9 times out of 10 I end up just camping with a gun.

firefighter3931 · November 04, 2006, 10:19:23 PM

ROTF.....that's gonna leave a mark !

Ron

Vainglory, Esq. · November 05, 2006, 04:17:00 AM

I am now...

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,19238.0.html

sixpack70 · November 05, 2006, 07:30:49 AM

I used to hunt every year back in Oregon. Most of my family did. Its hard to hunt in El paso when the only deer I ever see are the black ones on the yellow signs.

nh_mopar_fan · November 05, 2006, 10:57:21 AM

ck1 · November 06, 2006, 05:14:16 PM

Nice deer, biggest deer I ever got was a two point and thats saying allot for blacktail here in washington, my brother got a 3 point last year, eye guards are not quite a inch or it would have been a four point, "Picture", there is a holy farm close by that I've seen two spikes a 2,3,4 and a monster 5 point black tail sparring over two large doe in heat with there noses in the air two nights ago...........

ck1 · November 06, 2006, 05:28:00 PM

I respect your opinion that you don't hunt, thanks for sharing................

grouseman · November 06, 2006, 07:23:59 PM

I am an avid hunter, but if anybody would like to pay me to NOT go moose hunting this year, I'll gladly consider offers.

And you can also pay me to NOT go after caribou, elk, or bear this year.

Isn't it funny that the cutest animals are always the most delicious?

ck1 · November 06, 2006, 10:05:44 PM

Its also funny how some people can't stand the thought of people hunting and harvesting a free wild animals but yet they will go to a grocery store and buy meat and eat it that has been raised, inslaved and some times fattened with chemicals and placed in pens that are unlivable by human standereds and then be butchered on a assembly line......... but a animal that is free "and a most get away from us horrible cruel hunters, but not the ones in the pens" is harvested for its meat and and yes for some its a trophy, god forbid.................which animal has lead a better life and severed a better purpose? you really need to look at the greater picture and get out of your self centered world.......

rare69 · November 06, 2006, 10:28:49 PM

hey ck1 where in washington are you from. i live in port angeles on the olympic peninsula, and hunt deer and elk every day i can since the age of ten and wouldnt trade it for the world.

rare69 · November 06, 2006, 10:57:50 PM

here are my blacktails from Washington State

ck1 · November 07, 2006, 01:27:14 AM

North Bend, modern for deer here by my parent tree farm, muzzle load for elk thid year at Bethal ridge down in the Yakama area.....picture of our tree farm

Shakey · November 07, 2006, 09:46:25 AM

I work with a guy that hunts quite a bit. I can't recall if he sent me the attached photo or if I got it somewhere else. Kinda cool the way they got them all skinned and hangin'.

General 713 · November 07, 2006, 03:00:37 PM

Gun Deer starts here in WI on the 18th. I can't wait. Nailed a 11 pointer in 2004 with 16 1/2 inch spread. I'll post a pic if possible. Too many deer here. I don't remember the total killed last year, but it was the most ever here. The deer population however is at it's record high this year, 1.7 million+. Doe tags are $2 in my DMU because it is in herd control as well as most of the Units

SnoPro440 · November 07, 2006, 06:49:33 PM

I hunt in northern MN, right by Upper and Lower Red Lake. Just got back today. Here are a few pics of most of the deer we got and 1 of a sign that I thought was pretty funny.

Steve P. · November 07, 2006, 07:56:04 PM

Hey OLDGUY, don't hog it all up for yourself.. Upstate New York is full of hunters keeping down the herds. It is a necessary evil. I might add that when the hunters are given license to hunt in the state parks the meat is taken to homeless shelters. And now that I think of it, most of the REDNECKS that are hunting BAMBI in the parks are SWAT snipers and x-military snipers. The rest are just your average every day REDNECK.

I got a dear one year. It took out the front end of my brand new truck. Did I mention it was in one of those areas where the snipers lay in wait?? Same area about one year before that, one of my customers had one come through her windshield and land on her lap. It luckily knocked out the deer on impact. After she got the car stopped and pryed her way out from under it, the damn thing came to and kicked the shit out of her interior. There was nothing left of it. The REDNECK sheriff had to kill the poor deer inside her car. My heart bleeds.... Shelly had to have something like 35 or more stitches around her right eye and down her cheek. Later on more plastic surgery..

On the flip side I guess some people are vegetarians and would NEVER eat meat!!

sjmarsing · November 07, 2006, 08:18:02 PM

So you want to come over and kill all of his animals? Who said he even had any? If he likes animals as much as I do, he's probably already killed them all off! I love animals...they're delicious! Cats, racoons, snakes, squirrels....mmm mmm mmm. I assume your pastimes are much nobler such as boycotting McDonald's and grocery stores for supporting the slaughter.

azraelck · November 07, 2006, 08:36:07 PM

I'm not personally the hunting type, but I'd much rather see a Deer or whatever shot and killed humanely than to die of starvation and disease when the herd overpopulates, and there's not enough food or water for them.

I've been hunting a couple of times for deer. First time, we had a dog follow us around, barking whenever a deer came within range. Obviously enough we didn't shoot anything that trip.

The second time, we didn't see a deer, but we did see a rabbit. My grandfather raised his .30-06 up, and that rabbit literally exploded. He was out about 300 yards from us too, and my grandfather was 60, and using iron sights then. Now, I don't like scopes, and only use iron sights myself.

Steve P. · November 07, 2006, 08:39:40 PM

I used to hunt till I married one of them. Never used a gun though!!

4402tuff4u · November 07, 2006, 09:17:19 PM

I gather from your reply that you are a vegetarian and don't consume any form of animal products. Going to the store to buy a piece of meat is just a sanitized way of killing an animal, but letting someone else do the dirty deed, and in masses I should add.

I hunt here in the Northeast (NY) every year and in two weeks will be in the woods looking to kill and gut out a whitetail that my whole family will consume and enjoy. The only difference is that I'm going into the deer's turf seeking for him and not feeding him from a newborn up to an adult...a life in confinement just to be killed for meat. The whitetails odds of survival from being killed by a hunter are greater than my chances of scoring/bagging a deer. As soon as I snap a twig and the deer hears it several hundred feet away or the deer smells the human scent several hundred yards away, he's gone! I have watch black bears, Lynx cats and coyote's walk by cause it would be a waste just to kill them for a mount, since I don't plan on consuming the meat of those species.

..........so not every hunter is "desperate" for food or in need of food stamps, and I don't love stories when hunters get shot, cause someday it might be someone you know or a love one. Cheers!

moparguy01 · November 07, 2006, 09:42:55 PM

we arent killing the family pet you cheese eating surrender monkey. we're "harvesting" to help control the populations. if the population isnt controlled, then they eat all the food the farmers grow. then they die of starvation. so the deer die in large numbers, or they are "harvested"

I'm sure we'll all love the stories of you getting shot, or when you get run over by a herd of stampeding hormone injected cattle.

I seriously find it hard to beleive that you are really that stupid. but then again.......

sjmarsing · November 08, 2006, 04:28:41 PM

Nice mule deer my co-worker just harvested from northern Utah.

ck1 · November 08, 2006, 05:45:36 PM

I would say though you guys really need to know the proper way to hang a deer or any animal you plain to skin and butcher, and its not from the head its from the hind legs head down. The reason is there is allot of stuff in the head and glads you don't want dripping downward into and on to the meat

and they bleed out better by the hind legs plus it just doesn't look right hanging from there heads

Steve P. · November 08, 2006, 08:29:15 PM

I don't know anything about hunting or skinning or, or, or, but that is the first time I have ever seen deer hanging head high..

68_R/T_Eric · November 09, 2006, 12:48:25 PM

I dare you to come over here and start killing our animals! Hey you might just end up like the stories you love. IT could be your dream come true!!

-Eric

grouseman · November 09, 2006, 02:25:56 PM

Well, you gotta look at it from the ANTI-hunter's side. They're usually squeamish about things like blood, and putting in hard work for something that you can otherwise just go out and buy. They've no real love or appreciation of nature, of being outdoors, understanding game biology or any of the issues facing wildlife. They see a single deer and think they're 'communing with nature', whereas the hunter has that communal feeling in his stomach, and deer protein has contributed to his muscles and organs. That deer (and any wild game) is now a part of the hunter, the deer's spirit it within him. He now owes part of his life to that game animal, and love and respect can only flow from such a relationship.

The ANTI-hunter can't fathom any of this, so they rationalize it by saying hunters are mean, evil, murderers who hate the game animals they hunt. They inflate the killing side so that is all they focus on, and project that killing onto all other animals and people. They think we all want to hunt humans, ultimately. Their ignorance of hunting leads to fear, and thus their ultimate hatred. They're just like the bigots and racists of old - full of misunderstanding, ignorance and prejudice. Just because they don't know anything about the subject doesn't mean they can't have an opinion!

Any good sportsman hunter behaves ethically, treats his downed game with respect, and provides for habitat preservation and good game management so that hunters may enjoy this heritage celebration of life for generations to come. Life is death, and death is life - hunters understand that concept. ANTI-hunters are so full of rage and hate that they cannot see their own hypocrisy when they go buy meat from the store. We have more in common with gardeners who will can and preserve their own vegetables, or farmers who raise and butcher their own beef, or people who cut their own firewood. We intrinsically bind ourselves to nature by our act of participating in it, not standing outside of it and being a spectator. An ANTI-hunter will never enjoy or understand nature in the same way as a hunter. Their narrow minded ideology allows them no room to think for themselves. It is surprising, but they will always, ALWAYS honour and respect the aborignal hunting traditions, but if a white man does the exact same thing then he is branded as a barbaric savage. And isn't that how the aboriginals (whom they now respect) were initially described by Europeans? My two young girls can understand and appreciate this concept; why can't a supposedly mature ANTI-hunter understand that others want more out of life? If you can't understand it, fine, just don't inflict us with your weakness of character.

Orange_Crush · November 09, 2006, 02:46:20 PM

Whoa whoa whoa there grouseman. Don't be lumping all non-hunters in with daytonalulu.

I don't have a problem with hunting or fishing or any of the other pastimes. If you want to hunt it is your right and you're free to do it. I have no beef with it. I understand hard work, love of nature and all the other stuff you mention. When you say things like what you said above, you come off sounding just like the guy you're criticizing.

I choose not to hunt because I do not enjoy it. I eat meat and I know where it comes from...hell, I enjoy venison. I just don't weant to kill the animals I eat.

grouseman · November 09, 2006, 03:27:04 PM

Thanks for pointing that our, OC, I was using non-hunters when I meant to say anti-hunters. I did not intend that. I will edit it to remove the misunderstanding.

There, I think I got them all.

sjmarsing · November 09, 2006, 04:17:16 PM

Very true and well written Grouseman. One thing I remember from my hunter safety course was that statistics show most of the population as "non-hunters" but most of the population is also FOR hunting. (even though they don't hunt they don't want to take away others freedom to do so) It is only a small portion of non-hunters that are anti-hunters. Dept of wildlife resources does a fairly good job issuing the proper number of tags to keep the deer in check with their habitat so they don't overpopulate resulting in unhealthy, mal-nourished herds and increased vehicle/deer accidents - and at the same time making sure they don't become extinct. Here in Utah if you get a tag it is one - sex specific tag.

sjmarsing · November 13, 2006, 08:57:39 AM

Here you go daytonalo - this should cheer you up:

Deer Attacks, Kills His Owner in N.Y.
By Associated Press
Sun Nov 12, 8:41 PM

ELLENBURG, N.Y. - A deer being kept in a pen attacked and killed his owner Sunday, state police said.

The buck that killed Ronald Donah, 43, was among about a half dozen deer penned up on his property in Ellenburg, about 180 miles north of Albany, said state Trooper Joseph House.

Details of Donah's injuries and what may have prompted the attack were not available Sunday.

Maureen Wren, a spokeswoman for the state Department of Environmental Conservation, said Donah had a license to keep the white tail deer on his property but did not know why he was doing so.

She said deer attacks, at least in the wild, are extremely rare.

Donah was taken to CVPH Medical Center in Plattsburgh, where he died. An autopsy was scheduled for Monday.

253862656971 · November 14, 2006, 12:34:00 AM

I popped this guy yesterday out on my uncles ranch. He is a 7x5. The brow tines are really goofy and they're what gave so many points. He's not very big but he's ok. I'm gonna do a horn mount on him.

News:

Any deer hunters here?