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Halloween...Is it evil?

Started by Orange_Crush, October 30, 2006, 09:38:08 AM

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Brock Samson

traditionally this is the time of year when the spirts are closest to the living, it's a time to repent in the jewish religion well a month ago but the wiccins go for it in a big way... here lets read about it shall we?..




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween

bull

Quote from: Lord Warlock on October 30, 2006, 06:45:51 PM
If you don't participate on halloween, you are open game to have a "trick" played on you or your house.  Toilet paper, shaving cream or even eggs, although now as adult I don't let the kids take eggs out like we did as kids.  My parents would actually buy us a can of shaving cream to take with us.  My kids have'nt asked for any and I doubt the green edge gel would be near as fun as the white foam was when i was a kid.

I hope that doesn't happen to us because we usually have to leave our house to take our girls out on Halloween night and I don't want to be deemed a party-pooper and have the house egged. That egg stuff doesn't come off easy.

skip68

I Hate it when people read too much into things. :flame:  If you ask any kid what holloween means they will tell you they get candy and dress up ect. ect. ect.  ANY child that thinks it's a sin, :image_294343: only does because an adult has put that in their head.!! .............YOU OR YOUR CHILDREN WILL NOT GO TO HELL BECAUSE YOU WENT TRICK OR TREATING!!!............Chuck.....
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Lord Warlock

One of us adults take our youngest daughter out, the other stays home and passes out candy.  I took her out for her first 4 to 5 years, nowadays I usually man the front door, or the eldest daughter can do it if I am not up to it for some reason.  I don't however think highly of folks that don't participate on halloween.  I don't like eggs because they can do damage to houses, such as roofs or paint jobs on cars if not cleaned up, after growing up I learned what its like to get rid of dried on egg, so I don't encourage that action from my own kids. BUT if you leave your lights on and don't answer your door...and don't leave treats...you are open game.  Around here, those that don't want to play halloween just turn off their porch lights and draw curtains to the front of the house so kids don't think someone is home, then they don't waste time trudging thru a quarter acre front yard to get to a house with no one answering the door. 

Halloween hasn't got anything to do with sin or Hell, since pagans don't believe in hell to start with.  It isn't a part of our religion.  You can thank the christians and muslims for that belief structure. 
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sjmarsing

Quote from: CHARGER_FAN on October 30, 2006, 07:16:29 PM
Ok OC, you're neighborhood is officially worse than Utah. :yesnod:
Around here, you can't swing a dead cat in the air without hitting a Mormon, but at least the majority of them don't tell their kids that Halloween is evil. :eyes:

Yeah we don't tell our kids halloween is evil - Our church has a halloween party every year. We have such a good time a lot of people come that aren't even members.

I have always heard: christians started halloween to "ward off evil spirits"
or "it's a pagan holiday"
nice history on brocks post


Brock Samson

ok i'll quote it for ya then..

"Origin: Celtic observation of Samhain
According to what can be reconstructed of the beliefs of the ancient Celts, the bright half of the year ended around November 1 or on a Moon-phase near that date, a day referred to in modern Gaelic as Samhain ("Sow-in" or alternatively "Sa-ven", meaning: End of the Summer). After the adoption of the Roman calendar with its fixed months, the date began to be celebrated independently of the Moon's phases.

As October 31st is the last day of the bright half of the year, the next day also meant the beginning of Winter, which the Celts often associated with human death, and with the slaughter of livestock to provide meat for the coming Winter. The Celts also believed that on October 31, the boundary separating the dead from the living became blurred. There is a rich and unusual myth system at work here; the spirit world, the residence of the "Sídhe," as well as of the dead, was accessible through burial mounds. These mounds opened at two times during the year, Samhain and Beltane, making the beginning and end of Summer highly spiritually resonant.

The Celts' survival during the cold harsh winters depended on the prophecies of their priests and priestesses (Druids), and the accurate prediction of how much food would be needed to sustain the people before the next harvest. They believed that the presence of spirits would aid in the ability to make predictions about the coming year.

The exact customs observed in each Celtic region differ, but they generally involved the lighting of bonfires and the reinforcement of boundaries, across which malicious spirits might be prevented from crossing and threatening the community."

Silver R/T

don't celebrate Halloween, nothing good about it
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sjmarsing

To each his own. Jehova Witnesses don't even celebrate Christmas.

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sjmarsing

Quote from: Brock Samson on October 30, 2006, 09:44:27 PM
ok i'll quote it for ya then..


I wasn't defying you.....I guess I meant "this thread has become quite educational"

Brock Samson

don't use periods either as they are evil

sjmarsing

Quote from: Brock Samson on October 30, 2006, 10:14:18 PM
don't use periods either as they are evil

I'm deeply sorry and ask for thy forgivness for my horrible sin  :angel:

Vainglory, Esq.

Quote from: Silver R/T on October 30, 2006, 09:51:37 PM
don't celebrate Halloween, nothing good about it

I was really hoping for more than that out of you.

Mostly so we could mercilessly make fun of you, which is always a bright spot in my day.

sixpack70

Yes, it is an evil holiday. After we had 333 (yes thats right) people come trick or treating my house last year, and three trips for candy resupply, I thought it was a pretty evil holiday. Even after we shut all the lights off at 8PM and went to the bedroom and watched TV, people were still knocking on our door. They just didnt get the hint I guess. I also say people because i can tell you about half were adults, and many were from mexico bringing friends and family memebers numbering up to around 20! This year my wife is running away from the house while I am still overseas, enough of that crap.
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old man

While I was stuck in Iowa last year I found they were strickly against Halloween. They were very strict Christians and would not celebrate the night at all. On the night before they would have beggers night and let kids go out and get candy. But the kids had to tell you a joke to get candy. We refused to follow their stupid rules. When I was younger I was studying to become a minister so I have a pretty decent understanding of the Christian religion. I told everyone there they were using their own stupid beliefs not the teachings of Jesus to ban a fun holiday. Lest to say we didn't fit in well in their town. Now that I'm back home in Missouri we look forward to a fun night with the kids.
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Mefirst

Over here in Scandinavia we never had commercial "Halloween", that came here about 10 years ago... I don't understand why the hell we import so many dumb holidays and things when we have a calender full of them of our own?? Any way, here the first Sunday in November is named "Al Saints Day". This day is a day when you go and light candles on the graves of loved ones and took time to remember them. In the evening you would have dinner with your family and maby invite friends over.. Here we don't have the "trick or treat" thing, well we do now...

And here are my best "Holiday wishes" to al those hardcore Christians, - F### OFF!


Orange_Crush



I have a Haloween "litmus test" to determine who I give candy to.

If you show up at my house wearing a costume...you get candy.  I don't care if you're five or fifty.  If you wear a costume, you get candy.

I say that because you would not belive how many asshole teenagers show up at my house with no costumes on expecting candy.  I got one last year and I asked him (sarcastically) "What are you supposed to be?"  He says "I'm my twin brother."  And I said "I'm the son of a bitch who isn't giving you any candy, now get outta here."

I don't care if you draw a scar on your face with eyeliner and wear an eyepatch, if you make an effort, you get candy.  I f you don't, you get squat.
I ain't got time for pain, the only pain I got time for is the pain i put on fools how don't know what time it is.

41husk

Quote from: Mefirst on October 31, 2006, 08:25:33 AM
Over here in Scandinavia we never had commercial "Halloween", that came here about 10 years ago... I don't understand why the hell we import so many dumb holidays and things when we have a calender full of them of our own?? Any way, here the first Sunday in November is named "Al Saints Day". This day is a day when you go and light candles on the graves of loved ones and took time to remember them. In the evening you would have dinner with your family and maby invite friends over.. Here we don't have the "trick or treat" thing, well we do now...

And here are my best "Holiday wishes" to al those hardcore Christians, - F### OFF!
Sounds like some one could use some coffee or maybe  some prozac
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skip68

You know, I'm tired of all these dumb rules of all kinds of religons. :no:  This one can't watch T.V.,  that one can't drink caffine,  this one doesn't do B-day's,  that one can't trick or treat,  ect. ect. ect... It never ends and I've heard some strange stuff.  I believe it's all B.S.  :icon_bs:  None of these or any other things like them are going to screw up your afterlife, and anyone telling you different to me is controlling and cult like.  :slap:  Live your life and do good to others and don't mess with FREE WILL... I think there is good in most all religons and if JESUS was a six year old today, He would be going trick or treating tonight  :yesnod:  I better stop now before some other self proclaimed religon makes a rule that even speaking of Trick or Treating is a sin and I find myself in HELL  :smilielol: P.S. I don't care what religon you guy's are here, you are all my brothers  :moon:  Chuck..................
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rudyjrusa

what are you celebrating - please explain???

Charger_Fan

Quote from: skip68 on October 31, 2006, 10:09:42 AM
You know, I'm tired of all these dumb rules of all kinds of religons. :no:  This one can't watch T.V.,  that one can't drink caffine,  this one doesn't do B-day's,  that one can't trick or treat,  ect. ect. ect... It never ends and I've heard some strange stuff.  I believe it's all B.S.  :icon_bs:  None of these or any other things like them are going to screw up your afterlife, and anyone telling you different to me is controlling and cult like.  :slap:  Live your life and do good to others and don't mess with FREE WILL... I think there is good in most all religons and if JESUS was a six year old today, He would be going trick or treating tonight  :yesnod:  I better stop now before some other self proclaimed religon makes a rule that even speaking of Trick or Treating is a sin and I find myself in HELL  :smilielol: P.S. I don't care what religon you guy's are here, you are all my brothers  :moon:  Chuck..................
:iagree: In matters of religion, my most recent favorite saying; "If everybody would just keep their eyes on their own plate & not worry about the other guy, the world would be a much happier place".

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Quote from: skip68 on October 31, 2006, 10:09:42 AM
if JESUS was a six year old today, He would be going trick or treating tonight  :yesnod: 

What do you think he would go dressed up as - the devil, the Pope or a pregnant nun?   :icon_smile_evil:


Shakey

Quote from: rudyjrusa on October 31, 2006, 10:46:34 AM
what are you celebrating - please explain???

The fact that Satan has not taken over the Earth, yet!

Orange_Crush

Quote from: CHARGER_FAN on October 31, 2006, 12:00:20 PM
Quote from: skip68 on October 31, 2006, 10:09:42 AM
You know, I'm tired of all these dumb rules of all kinds of religons. :no:  This one can't watch T.V.,  that one can't drink caffine,  this one doesn't do B-day's,  that one can't trick or treat,  ect. ect. ect... It never ends and I've heard some strange stuff.  I believe it's all B.S.  :icon_bs:  None of these or any other things like them are going to screw up your afterlife, and anyone telling you different to me is controlling and cult like.  :slap:  Live your life and do good to others and don't mess with FREE WILL... I think there is good in most all religons and if JESUS was a six year old today, He would be going trick or treating tonight  :yesnod:  I better stop now before some other self proclaimed religon makes a rule that even speaking of Trick or Treating is a sin and I find myself in HELL  :smilielol: P.S. I don't care what religon you guy's are here, you are all my brothers  :moon:  Chuck..................
:iagree: In matters of religion, my most recent favorite saying; "If everybody would just keep their eyes on their own plate & not worry about the other guy, the world would be a much happier place".

I saw a great bumper sticvker the other day that summed it up perfectly.  It said:

"I love Jesus.  I just can't stand his fan club"
I ain't got time for pain, the only pain I got time for is the pain i put on fools how don't know what time it is.

TheGhost

Quote from: Silver R/T on October 30, 2006, 09:51:37 PM
don't celebrate Halloween, nothing good about it


Oh, please, do tell us why Halloween is evil.







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