72 DODGE CHARGER RALLEY COUPE

[twilt]

well i'd like to hear about your "rare" 318 car, and why your so into the '72's specificly... 

Ha-Ha . I`ll save all that info for another time. I dont want to hijack the post.

[Mr Sixpacks wife]

On another note,what is a "Trac Pac"? Is it a specifiic rear end and if so what Chargers was it available on?

Trac Pac is an option, to 1972 Chargers it was re-named to "Rallye Package", like the model "R/T" was re-named to Rallye, included as an example; front and rear sway bars. If you didn't order the Rallye Package (formerly known as Trac Pac) you got only one sway bar.

Regarding why I want info about my Charger and how many is left is because I'm curious, there were 165 440 HP, 4 spd and Dana 60 Charger Rallyes built. With the option N96 and Rallye Package some say it was a handful made. No one has the correct number either but mostly I get the number of 5 produced from different people.
My Charger is documented to its very first owner, I know exactly what it has been up to during the years and who has done what on the car. Even when a burglar visited the car and left it with the rims and tires in his hands, some locks destroyed and a window broken back in the 70s, I know everything about the car almost on the date. I know my car inside out and I like to find information about those 72 Rallyes, if there are more optioned like mine. It's fun to compare.  

[AZ-Nick]

The track pack option is different package, the Rallye package is a continuation of the R/T package.

This is what a Track Pak option consists of:

Track Pak - Code A33
Available only with 440 and 426 Hemi w/4-speed Trans. N/A with air conditioning.
Package consists of: 3.54 Ratio w/H.D. 9 3/4" Dana Axle, Sure Grip Differential, 7 Blade Torque Drive Fan,
26" High Performance Radiator w/fan shroud, Power Disc Brakes, Duel Breaker Distributer (440 6 pack & Hemi only)

There was also a Super Track Pak option

Super Track Pak - Code A34
Available only with 440 and 426 Hemi only,  N/A with air conditioning, N/A with 3 speed manual trans.
Package consists of: 4.10 Ratio w/H.D. 9 3/4" Dana Axle, Sure Grip Differential, 7 Blade Torque Drive Fan,
26" High Performance Radiator w/fan shroud, Power Disc Brakes, Duel Breaker Distributer (440 6 pack & Hemi only)

[Mr Sixpacks wife]

The track pack option is different package, the Rallye package is a continuation of the R/T package.

This is what a Track Pak option consists of:

Track Pak - Code A33
Available only with 440 and 426 Hemi w/4-speed Trans. N/A with air conditioning.
Package consists of: 3.54 Ratio w/H.D. 9 3/4" Dana Axle, Sure Grip Differential, 7 Blade Torque Drive Fan,
26" High Performance Radiator w/fan shroud, Power Disc Brakes, Duel Breaker Distributer (440 6 pack & Hemi only)

There was also a Super Track Pak option

Super Track Pak - Code A34
Available only with 440 and 426 Hemi only,  N/A with air conditioning, N/A with 3 speed manual trans.
Package consists of: 4.10 Ratio w/H.D. 9 3/4" Dana Axle, Sure Grip Differential, 7 Blade Torque Drive Fan,
26" High Performance Radiator w/fan shroud, Power Disc Brakes, Duel Breaker Distributer (440 6 pack & Hemi only)

Thank you for clearing that out, I must remember wrong. Sorry for writing wrong information, don't want to give you wrong information. 
R/T Package = Rallye Package and NOT Trac Pac. To me those packages look the same though, on my Rallye Package my Charger has:

3.54 Ratio on a Dana 60 axle
Sure Grip Differential
7 Blade Torque Drive Fan
26" High Performance Radiator and that size of radiator was only available on 4 spds, autos got 22" radiator
Front- and rear sway bars
14" Rallye Wheels (not quite sure, some actually has 15" Rallye Wheels, could it be optional between 14" and 15" inside the package?)

I've probably forgot a few things, those two packages (Trac Pac and Rallye Package) look the same to me, except for the power disc brakes of course (now I'm not sure about the dual breaker distributor, must check that out).

[Mr Sixpacks wife]

My husband, who has a better memory than I have, told me that 1972 Charger Rallyes came with electronic distributor. 

[twilt]

My husband, who has a better memory than I have, told me that 1972 Charger Rallyes came with electronic distributor. 

That is incorrect information. In 72, electonic ignition was optional. It became standard equipment in 73.

[1972Rallye]

The A33 Track Pak option was only available on 440 4 speed cars in 1972.  There were 124 A33 equipped cars and 124 440 4 speed cars...   While it shows up as on "option" in the Acessory Groups, it was really standard on all 440 4 speed cars.  See the pic...  The 440 6 Pack was not available with a 4 speed or the A33 package - it got the 8.75 diff.

In 1972, electronic ignition was standard on all 340, 400 4bbl, 440 4bbl and 6bbl engines. It became standard on all engines in 1973...

[AZ-Nick]

my information was to show what was included on the A 33 and A34 packages, both were on 71 models. I brought that up because Mr Sixpacks wife said that the Rallye package was a continuation of the Track Pak option after the 71 model year......

[Mr Sixpacks wife]

my information was to show what was included on the A 33 and A34 packages, both were on 71 models. I brought that up because Mr Sixpacks wife said that the Rallye package was a continuation of the Track Pak option after the 71 model year......

Sorry for being wrong all the time and thanks for correcting me, I really appreciate that. Looks like I don't remember everything anymore as I once did and mix different packages together. It's a long time ago I documented my car and kept things in good memory but after a while things get more blurry. I'll keep my mouth shut and will not write anything until I'm really, really sure. 

[TruckDriver]

In 1972, electronic ignition was standard on all 340, 400 4bbl, 440 4bbl and 6bbl engines. It became standard on all engines in 1973...

It was optional on other engines though as my 400 2bbl has it from the factory. It is on the fender tag.

[Chris]

The A33 Track Pak option was only available on 440 4 speed cars in 1972.  There were 124 A33 equipped cars and 124 440 4 speed cars...   While it shows up as on "option" in the Acessory Groups, it was really standard on all 440 4 speed cars.  See the pic...  The 440 6 Pack was not available with a 4 speed or the A33 package - it got the 8.75 diff.

In 1972, electronic ignition was standard on all 340, 400 4bbl, 440 4bbl and 6bbl engines. It became standard on all engines in 1973...

Have another question for you or for anyone in this string,  In 1972 the WH23 Charger hard top had only 41 cars produced with the 340 Magnum, 4spd and 3.55 sure grip option. Does anyone know of the 41 how many were Ralleys, not Ralley Coupes or any other model?

Chris

[AZ-Nick]

my information was to show what was included on the A 33 and A34 packages, both were on 71 models. I brought that up because Mr Sixpacks wife said that the Rallye package was a continuation of the Track Pak option after the 71 model year......

Sorry for being wrong all the time and thanks for correcting me, I really appreciate that. Looks like I don't remember everything anymore as I once did and mix different packages together. It's a long time ago I documented my car and kept things in good memory but after a while things get more blurry. I'll keep my mouth shut and will not write anything until I'm really, really sure. 

I never said you were wrong and stop writing....... I only posted to help clear this up...... I am on Moparts (AZ-Nick) all the time so I don't post much here, I just read the threads each day and when I find a thread that I could help, I answer...... I do own a 71 GTX 4sp and a 71 Charger R/T N96 with 60,000mi.

[Nacho-RT74]

Have another question for you or for anyone in this string,  In 1972 the WH23 Charger hard top had only 41 cars produced with the 340 Magnum, 4spd and 3.55 sure grip option. Does anyone know of the 41 how many were Ralleys, not Ralley Coupes or any other model?

Chris

you already responsed this:
WH23 is hardtop
the 340 was only available on rallyes ( at least on 73, I don't think 72 was different )

so the answer is, all 41 assemblied where hardtops rallyes

[twilt]

Have another question for you or for anyone in this string,  In 1972 the WH23 Charger hard top had only 41 cars produced with the 340 Magnum, 4spd and 3.55 sure grip option. Does anyone know of the 41 how many were Ralleys, not Ralley Coupes or any other model?

Chris

I have a question in regard to this question.  What is the source of information as far as there being 41 WH23 340 4spd 3.55 cars? I have one of Galens white books around here somewhere and I don`t recall that it broke down the numbers as far as rear end gear ratios. Did you automatically get the A36 pkg when ordering a 4 speed? 

Its kind of funny. When i first got into 3rd Gen Chargers in the 80`s, I always read that the only available numbers were in regard to Engines, trans and WH/WL/WP  I took a 7 year hiatus from the hobby......... and now it seems like people quote numbers for every little option imaginable. 

[694spdRT]

I have not see option breakdown's go any farther than engine and trans either.  Dad's '73 Rallye 340 4 speed had 3.23's so 3.55's were not automatic in 1973 at least.

[Nacho-RT74]

I have noticed that kind of breakdowns untill 71, but don't know since 72. It looks to much less on 73/74

[Mr Sixpacks wife]

I never said you were wrong and stop writing....... I only posted to help clear this up...... I am on Moparts (AZ-Nick) all the time so I don't post much here, I just read the threads each day and when I find a thread that I could help, I answer...... I do own a 71 GTX 4sp and a 71 Charger R/T N96 with 60,000mi.

Thanks 71GTX-71R/T, but I need to give to correct information. I feel stupid when I type things on a forum and have wrong information to give because of lack memory. So, next time I'll be more sure. 

[1972Rallye]

Have another question for you or for anyone in this string,  In 1972 the WH23 Charger hard top had only 41 cars produced with the 340 Magnum, 4spd and 3.55 sure grip option. Does anyone know of the 41 how many were Ralleys, not Ralley Coupes or any other model?

Chris

I have a question in regard to this question.  What is the source of information as far as there being 41 WH23 340 4spd 3.55 cars? I have one of Galens white books around here somewhere and I don`t recall that it broke down the numbers as far as rear end gear ratios. Did you automatically get the A36 pkg when ordering a 4 speed? 

Its kind of funny. When i first got into 3rd Gen Chargers in the 80`s, I always read that the only available numbers were in regard to Engines, trans and WH/WL/WP  I took a 7 year hiatus from the hobby......... and now it seems like people quote numbers for every little option imaginable. 

He got the info from me - I have 1972 production data sheets to reference (not from Galen, but has same numbers Galen has).  Engine, trans., and rear ratio are as far the the breakdown goes.  All other options are based on a percentage of total US production for a particular style (WL/WH/WP). Maybe Galen "filters" what he publishes to hold back a little info...? Who knows...

[1958300]

1972RALLYE, it sounds like you have some really good information. My 72 rallye coupe (WL21) 440 automatic N96 car has the 3.55 suregrip rear end and bucket seats. Do the production sheets show any WL21 cars built with bucket seats? Supposedly, bucket seats were not available on the coupe, but mine has them and they are coded on the fender tag. Also, can you tell me the production numbers for the WL21 440 auto 3.55 cars?
thanks, phillip

[1972Rallye]

1972RALLYE, it sounds like you have some really good information. My 72 rallye coupe (WL21) 440 automatic N96 car has the 3.55 suregrip rear end and bucket seats. Do the production sheets show any WL21 cars built with bucket seats? Supposedly, bucket seats were not available on the coupe, but mine has them and they are coded on the fender tag. Also, can you tell me the production numbers for the WL21 440 auto 3.55 cars?
thanks, phillip

Hi Phillip,
All the popular literature I have says buckets were not available on Coupes, but the production numbers I have show 5.6% (361) of total US production got vinyl buckets (E6--); only 0.3% (19) got cloth & vinyl buckets (E5X9).  No further breakdown is available.

There wer only 11 440 autos with the 3.55 rear ratio...

You have a PM

Bob

[Chris]

Have another question for you or for anyone in this string,  In 1972 the WH23 Charger hard top had only 41 cars produced with the 340 Magnum, 4spd and 3.55 sure grip option. Does anyone know of the 41 how many were Ralleys, not Ralley Coupes or any other model?

Chris

I have a question in regard to this question.  What is the source of information as far as there being 41 WH23 340 4spd 3.55 cars? I have one of Galens white books around here somewhere and I don`t recall that it broke down the numbers as far as rear end gear ratios. Did you automatically get the A36 pkg when ordering a 4 speed? 

Its kind of funny. When i first got into 3rd Gen Chargers in the 80`s, I always read that the only available numbers were in regard to Engines, trans and WH/WL/WP  I took a 7 year hiatus from the hobby......... and now it seems like people quote numbers for every little option imaginable. 

He got the info from me - I have 1972 production data sheets to reference (not from Galen, but has same numbers Galen has).  Engine, trans., and rear ratio are as far the the breakdown goes.  All other options are based on a percentage of total US production for a particular style (WL/WH/WP). Maybe Galen "filters" what he publishes to hold back a little info...? Who knows...

Thanks Bob

[Brock Samson]

 Just a thought here, is there any corolation between the plymouths of the same year with options like the 340 four speeds and even benches because usually what you could get on dodges you could also get on plymouths, except, i dont think any model of RR GTX or Sat/Sebrings had fixed rear windows. ie: no coupes.

[High Impact]

I just last week bought a (wh23) 1972 Rallye Charger that was a 340 car but now has a 1970 440.   Its an original 4-speed car with a loaded fender tag!   True Blue Met. Black gut,Bucket,console,short pistol grip,tach,Air Cond.,AM Radio with Cassete player,Dual Chrome Mirrors,Hide-a-ways,Buldge Hood (treatment)Power Disk brakes,3 speed wipers, plus a few others.

Car came out of Paw Paw Michigan about 11 years ago,  have no idea where the original motor went.  Its a running driving car with some rust (Hey its a Michigan Car)  but definatly FUN!!   

Just signed up to this group.  Looks like a good one!!    Just wanted to add my car to the list.

[Chris]

I just last week bought a (wh23) 1972 Rallye Charger that was a 340 car but now has a 1970 440.   Its an original 4-speed car with a loaded fender tag!   True Blue Met. Black gut,Bucket,console,short pistol grip,tach,Air Cond.,AM Radio with Cassete player,Dual Chrome Mirrors,Hide-a-ways,Buldge Hood (treatment)Power Disk brakes,3 speed wipers, plus a few others.

Car came out of Paw Paw Michigan about 11 years ago,  have no idea where the original motor went.  Its a running driving car with some rust (Hey its a Michigan Car)  but definatly FUN!!   

Just signed up to this group.  Looks like a good one!!    Just wanted to add my car to the list.

It is nice seeing another Ralley 340, 4 spd car. I am hoping that mine is done sometime in 2007. Not many of these left, what rear end does the car have?

[High Impact]

8.75 3.23 gear with the rear sway bar.