HOMEMADE HINGES AND FILLER FOR LATCH TRAY

[daytonalo]

Can anyone post a pic and the exact spacing, and the number of bolts on a daytona latch tray .
                                                                                          LARRY

[nascarxx29]

I had given you total access to my original 69 daytona to photograph measure record such details etc.The aftermarket parts usually have a impression from the original part used in duplication.Outlining where to drill out 20 holes or where to cutout required areas pictured

[daytonalo]

Thank you , hope things are going well with the sale of your car . I ran into a few of your friends at the haddonfield NJ show today . The AMX I restored received the sponsor choice , which was cherry Hill dodge , and took second in his class

[daytonalo]

One more thing , does the latch tray go over or under the nose lip ?

[johntpr]

Also if it helps..Frank Badalson of Roger Gibson Restoration sells the correct latch tray bolts and J Nuts

[62 Max]

One more thing , does the latch tray go over or under the nose lip ?

Over.

[62 Max]

Also if it helps..Frank Badalson of Roger Gibson Restoration sells the correct latch tray bolts and J Nuts

So do most auto body suppliers if you have a sample.Gibson/Badelson buy them from a supplier,repackage and mark up the price.With a little legwork you can eliminate the middle man.

[nascarxx29]

Bill 62 max welcome to the board.I use to get bolts for useage on my friends daytona and superbird convertible we built up .From a place called Aveco fasteners but you had to buy the amounts they sold in a box box.I had found a think was a place in NJ .That had all the headlight aiming and mounting hardware .For alot less then mopar vendors .I used the thomas registry guide of all manafactures and there specialitys.Some times a vendor was even known to be the vendor chysler used. 

http://www.thomasnet.com/

If you go on ebay and type in AUVECO it yields results .AUVECO is automotive hardware vendor from way back when


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Assorment-of-12-Auveco-Foldover-Nuts-U-Nuts-auto-repair_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ111104QQhashZitem280025202378QQihZ018QQitemZ280025202378QQrdZ1

[daytonalo]

I believe they are 5/16 , 1/2 head . I'm not real concerned with hex markings .

[62 Max]

I believe they are 5/16 , 1/2 head . I'm not real concerned with hex markings .

Actually,they are 1/4x 20,7/16 loose washer.Giive me an address and they're yours.

[daytonalo]

You are a very generous guy , forgive me I missed your first name . I hope that I can do the same in the future for you !
                                                                                                        Thank you , Larry
Larry O'Donnell
103 white horse rd
voorhees N.J 08043

[62 Max]

You are a very generous guy , forgive me I missed your first name . I hope that I can do the same in the future for you !
                                                                                                        Thank you , Larry
Larry O'Donnell
103 white horse rd
voorhees N.J 08043

They will be in the mail tomorrow.And remember,paybacks are hell  !

[gtx6970]

FYI, Nothing Auveco carries is OEM correct 

[hemigeno]

You are a very generous guy ,

That's not the first example of generosity I've seen from Bill (62 Max) either.  Several guys from the A12 board on Moparts have received some pretty rare parts from Bill's incredible NOS stash on the same terms.

Might not a better example of a true Mopar guy IMHO.

[daytonalo]

Bill ,thank you very much !
                   Larry

[nascarxx29]

PCG Dave Patik might carry the ones with the correct head

[daytonalo]

Unfortunately my fiberglass fits better under, and looks better under

[nascarxx29]

I have known that to be the case where it fitted like that with a fiberglass nose

[daytonalo]

My kit is a hunk of shit 

[hotrod98]

Larry, Every time I see another decent looking daytona clone, I'm a little more impressed. They're not that easy to build, especially when the parts are crap. I tried that tubing bender that I bought this weekend and I'm definitely going to find a hydraulic press type square tubing bender. That is if I can't find a shop with a cnc bender. That .120 wall stuff is tough to bend. I want my hinges to be perfect. I won't sell sub par stuff and this is going to take a little longer than I thought.

[daytonalo]

I had to use a 4 ft cheater bar to bend mine ! I'm back on a mission , 8 hrs a day on the daytona !

[daytonalo]

I have to say that I'm blown away of the generosity of bill  [ 62 max ] ! He is member that we can all learn from !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                                                                              Larry

[BigBlockSam]

You are a very generous guy 

welcome, and thats very cool. thats whats it's all about. Rene

[hotrod98]

I had to use a 4 ft cheater bar to bend mine ! I'm back on a mission , 8 hrs a day on the daytona !

Larry,
I had the biggest guy in the shop try to bend that .120 wall 1" square tubing and I just don't see how you were able to do it by hand. Damn that stuff is thick. I'm definitely going to have someone do it with a cnc bender.
hotrod98

[daytonalo]

Trust me , it felt like the bender was going to grenade !

[nascarxx29]

I dont know if this is possible.I had heard it could be done with applied heat with the channel full of sand to prevent kinks.Using a jig to check your progress

[hotrod98]

The problem is, you need the kinks. When bending square tubing, the extra metal is forced to the inside of the tubing. As for heat, You don't want to change the structural strength of the steel. I found a shop here that can bend the 1" square tubing and has the correct style die, but his die has a 5.25" radius and I need a 7" radius for the daytona hinges. I have a back-up plan. The header company that builds the nascar headers, Schoenfield is located nearby and is supposed to have the type cnc bending equipment that I need. They are building square tubed components for the nascar trucks. I refuse to give up. I'm tackling these daytona parts one piece at a time.

[BigBlockSam]

 

[daytonalo]

Lets back up twenty steps , these cant be made on a round tube bender !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have a round and a square tube bender ,and on the square bender the dies have a concave ,which pushes in the metal on the inside radius  I made these a while back , using  my dear old friend Dave's hinges . one more thing , these were bent cold !Larry

[daytonalo]

one more

[hotrod98]

Larry,
The square tubing bender that you suggested that I buy does not have the dies with the piece that pushes the metal to the inside. I've seen that type of die and these are not them. I'll post a pic tomorrow of the tubing bender that I bought.
Are you absolutely sure that your hinges are .120 wall like the originals? Your's look more like .60 wall. The thin wall hinges won't hold up in the long run. They won't hold their shape since they're twice as long as the original hinges. That's why the Daytona versions were made of thicker steel than the lightweight originals.

I would love to see a video of you bending the .120 wall stuff on this little bender that I have. I just don't think it's going to happen. If I'm going to sell daytona trunk hinges, they're going to look and work like the real thing or I'm not going to sell them.

Here's a pic of a real daytona hinge.   Notice the .120 wall thickness?

[daytonalo]

Mine are the same thickness of the wing -braces you sold me . There a little thinner than orig , but that doesn't mean that they are not strong . I think they look great , but more importantly they don't flex !

[hotrod98]

Larry, That explains why I'm having more trouble bending these hinges than you were. I kept thinking all along that you might have been using thinner wall tubing. I'll let you know what I find out from the fab shop regarding whether they can bend them or not. I'm going to try to stick with the correct size since there may be a few guys that need them for their original cars at some point in time.
hotrod98

[daytonalo]

Good luck , GRASSHOPPER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!