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How fast is a Hemi Charger or Hemi Cuda?

Started by Wakko, August 24, 2005, 11:46:36 PM

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Wakko

What were they capable of in stock trim (including the bias ply tires)?
Ian

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How fast is a Hemi Car? It just might be relitave to how big your "sack" is! :icon_smile_shock:

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Wakko

I'm curious how it would compete with the ZL-1 Camaro, actually.
Ian

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Try this

www.moparmusclemagazine.com/thehistoryof/75739/index7.html

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Brock Samson

well the '67 hemi Cudas/Darts ' were not exactly "stock"..
what's left of my memory says they did 10s as delivered to racers...
   But, that's with slicks and some lightening.
  I don't think the later E-Bods were nearly as quick as delivered to the dealers.  i'm gonna guess again and say low 13s and high 12s were within reach but the tires were/are probably the deciding factor. with a four speed, slicks and a good driver,.. 11s, in prostock tune, 10s..
I'll look it up...  :icon_smile_big:

Badbob

In stock form they are slower than the Coronet I drove to work today.

http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/general/musclecars-50fast.shtml

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Sox currently drives Bob Reed's four-speed '68 Barracuda that is painted in traditional Sox and Martin colors. "We run it mostly in Chrysler nostalgia shows, and it has gone a best of 8.84, 153 mph.


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69bananabeast

1969 Charger  446
1970 Charger  318
1932 Ford Rat Rod   (under construction)

tecmopar

To answer your question, in stock trim they were mid 13 sec. cars.

cudaken

 I remember when the SS mag came out with the track times for the 69 1/2 Road Runner. Ron Sox was the driver. For some reason me think's MR 4 speed was under the hood as well. Just sound's a littel to good for a bone stocker.

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last426

A 71 hemi charger did 13.72 as I remember.  I believe that a six pack was a full second slower but there really was a question with preparation.  Kim

PocketThunder

Quote from: 69bananabeast on August 25, 2005, 01:19:33 AM
what kind of milage does a hemi get?

you can pass everything but a gas station.....
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Stormhammer

you know - a 1971 340-4spd Cuda was the fastest Mopar off the dealership floor ( lightweight ) with the hemi verison being next ( Superbirds/Daytonas dont count )

LahTera

QuoteTo answer your question, in stock trim they were mid 13 sec. cars.

Actually, the 440 RT was an all-stock mid-13-second car.  The Hemi should be faster.

And fyi, the 440 was set at 375 HP -- old-style measurements, of course.

LahTera

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Quote from: PocketThunder on August 25, 2005, 05:11:13 PM
Quote from: 69bananabeast on August 25, 2005, 01:19:33 AM
what kind of milage does a hemi get?

you can pass everything but a gas station.....
I knew an old dude that said that Exactly about his SMALL BLOCK HEMI he had...  He did outrun CHP in it though...  So, now I wonder about a BIG BLOCK HEMI...???  6mpg? heh...

andy74

my friend teddy has a stock all original hemi gtx,he bought new in 67.he told me it averages 7-9 mpg,never had it to he strip.his other gtx,he has run mid 12s,with tuning,slicks and headers

bull

Quote from: 69bananabeast on August 25, 2005, 01:19:33 AM
what kind of milage does a hemi get?

It really doesn't matter, does it? I don't think anyone has every purchased a 426 Hemi car for good gas mileage.  :icon_smile_big:

RT DAVE

Here's some info from my copy of the "CHARGER MUSCLE PORTFOLIO 1966-1974".   It's a compilation of road tests from back in the day.  I haven't found a single 440 powered charger that runs a 13 and most of the hemi cars didn't either.   Here's some brief stats:

67 charger 426 w/727, 3.23 rear   14.16@96.15, 10.1mpg  - Car Life Feb 1967
67 charger 426 w 727, 4.10 rear  14.20@103 , 8mpg    -Hi Performance Cars, March 1967
68 charger 426 w/727  unknown rear gear 14.06@105mph, 11.26mpg - Road Test, March 1968
68 charger 426 w/727 3.23 rear, 13.5@105, 9-12 mpg,   - Car & Driver September 1968
69 charger 500 426 w/727, 3.23 rear 13.80@105mph   - Hot Rod Feb 1969
69 Charger 500 426 w/ 4spd & 4.10 rear 13.48@109    - Hot Rod Feb 1969
70 Charger R/T 440/727 3.55 Dana  14.71@96.67       -Car Life May 1970

68 CHARGER RT<br />06 MAGNUM RT<br />02 INTREPID SXT

6pkrunner

I have many many magazines from the era ( 1966 to 1971) and as delivered from Chrysler they were like wounded buffalo. It would take a trip to Al Kirshenbaum and his gang to supertune them to make them bark.
The 1966, 1967 versions with the 276 degree cam would run mid 14 second quarter mile times. A tuned 1968 to 1969 284 mechanical liftered version  would run 13.05 on the bias plys. The hydraulic 1970 and 1971s were about the same.
The untuned versions....well how about a 1968 Charger R/T that would constantly cut mid 15 second times. Yup - slug city.
I read a few interviews with Tom Hoover ( still mainly regarded as the father of the RB based hemi) and he said it hurt to go to tracks to see the 426s cutting mid to high 14s. He attributed to guys not knowing how to set up the twin 4 barrel carbs. In 1969 he and a few other Chrysler engineers were working an a 6 barrel setup for the hemi. They lifted the carbs from the 440 six pack and had a couple of in-house tooled intakes. One setup was on a 1968 Coronet R/T and I guess all that drove it really preferred it above the standard issue.

The 1968 SS Darts and 'cudas were noticeable quicker, but I am assuming you meant street hemis.

69bananabeast

Quote from: bull on August 26, 2005, 11:32:04 AM
Quote from: 69bananabeast on August 25, 2005, 01:19:33 AM
what kind of milage does a hemi get?

It really doesn't matter, does it? I don't think anyone has every purchased a 426 Hemi car for good gas mileage.  :icon_smile_big:

Just wondering what to expect .   know im gona get around 10mpg with   mild 446 .  Gonna get a 70 cuda next and was wondering about Hemi seems tempting excepth the cost to build one (just dropped about 8-9500k for 446) , sounds like ill probably end up getting a mild 360 for it. Would like to have a hemi car one day , thought it doesnt seem likely now unless a big raise comes in the future. 
1969 Charger  446
1970 Charger  318
1932 Ford Rat Rod   (under construction)

Ghoste

The ZL1 Camaro could hardly be called a stock vehicle.  Comparing it to a Street Hemi Charger is biased for the Chev.
That aluminum block full race monster in a 3000 lb car is better compared to the 68 Hemi Barracudas that others have used as a reference in this thread.

RT DAVE

Quote from: Ghoste on August 26, 2005, 04:00:48 PM
The ZL1 Camaro could hardly be called a stock vehicle.   Comparing it to a Street Hemi Charger is biased for the Chev.
That aluminum block full race monster in a 3000 lb car is better compared to the 68 Hemi Barracudas that others have used as a reference in this thread.

That's the way they came when you bought them, so I don't know how you can say that's not stock.   Stock is stock regardless of fairness in comparison to other vehicles.   
68 CHARGER RT<br />06 MAGNUM RT<br />02 INTREPID SXT