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cam help needed

Started by Rolling_Thunder, September 16, 2006, 04:03:17 PM

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Rolling_Thunder

Alright...    hows this for a cam question....       I'm currently running the resto cam from MP...    268*/284* with a 115* ---      now...    I like the smoother idle qualities of this cam but when I'm in need of a more modern approach for the 440...    I want a smoother idle than the 284*/284* purplshaft I had in it delivered...         any suggestion ?
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

694spdRT

I have an Engle K56/K58 in my 440. It is 224/230 duration at 0.050 on a 110CL and the idle is not bad at all. The powerband is right where it needs to be in a street driven car. It depends on your stall speed and gears but a K56 is reported to work well in most street 440 applications. The idle will be smoother than the 284/484 and you gain extra lift.
1968 Charger 383 auto
1969 Charger R/T 440 4 speed
1970 Charger 500 440 auto
1972 Challenger 318
1976 W200 Club Cab 4x4 400 auto 
1978 Ramcharger 360 auto
2001 Durango SLT 4.7L (daily driver)
2005 Ram 2500 4x4 Big Horn Cummins Diesel 6 speed
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Hemi

Rolling_Thunder

cool...      I am running a 5-speed ----

I'm just looking for a smoother running cam...    the CL is the large determining factor if i remember right...      I will be adding a procharger down the road so I am planning ahead....      im told to use a 110-114CL...    whats the benefit of the 114cl over a 112 or 110 ?
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

694spdRT

A wider centerline makes for a broader powerband but it may not have as high of a peak. A wider centerline also helps when using a more restrictive exhaust. The higher centerline will idle better.

That is partly why the old MP 484 and 509 cams had such noticeable idles...they were ground on a 108CL.  The newer street friendly ones are on either a 112 or 114CL but I have never heard one run.

Depending on your build you may want more. I am considering a K58/K60 for the 440 going in my Challenger.

Some others may have better advice for a blower cam setup.

1968 Charger 383 auto
1969 Charger R/T 440 4 speed
1970 Charger 500 440 auto
1972 Challenger 318
1976 W200 Club Cab 4x4 400 auto 
1978 Ramcharger 360 auto
2001 Durango SLT 4.7L (daily driver)
2005 Ram 2500 4x4 Big Horn Cummins Diesel 6 speed
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Hemi

deputycrawford

694speedrt is correct. You may want to seek further advise from someone. I would start with the cam manufacturers. They will tell you what cam is made for what. Pick a brand and call them on the phone. you will get what you need. Just have ALL your engine specs. I do mean everything. The dimentions of the valve springs. Head flow, gear, trans, weight....etc. it goes on and on. pick a cam company and call them.
If it ain't wide open; it ain't running.        Rule number one in motocross racing: Pin it; row the gear box; and wait until you hit something.     At work my motto is: If you need me, call someone else.

Rolling_Thunder

I'll probably just run over to Isky one day this week...   
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip