Like it or hate it. Here they come. Hydrogen BMW

[70charginglizard]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060912/bs_nm/autos_bmw_hydrogen_dc_1

[dodge freak]

They won't sell it because of the high price only will lease it. Thats BS , BMW knows thats a bomb when it gets old so they want to make sure after its a few years old they can get rid of them before somebody gets hurt. I thought I seen just a year or two ago that Hydrogen cars won't happen till 2020 . Sounds like BMW is jumping the gun on this.

[Brock Samson]

BMW was the first company to start reseach into it five or so years ago, GM is now nearly ready with theirs...



actually all the companies only lease the experamental test cars, going back to the Chrysler Ghia turbine project in the early '60s...
the GM electrics were leased too,..
if ya' really want a eye opener,.. look at what Audi had done with their endurance racing project...
reports from trackside say the car is completly silent... all you hear is a whoosh of air as it goes by,.. Ya' think Nike will sign up?..

[70charginglizard]

I think it's a smart move.
Like it or not this is the most logical step forward that make the most sence.
Why hold back.

[dodge freak]

I have no problems with it just so long as its safe and runs fine at 100+ degrees and below zero degrees.

I am sure the government is all for it, as soon as they can get rid of the gasoline they will. Thats the way is solve so many problems , like health-its bad for people and the earth, safety-gas burns too easy, no more gasoline in a beer bottle thrown though a window to start a fire and the best one-get all these old cars off the roads.

[Silver R/T]

why is government is all for it? Doesnt make sense, sooner we get rid of gas engines, less money OPEC will put in its pocket

[ChgrSteve67]

I'll wait for the version that you fill up with water, runs on the Hydrogen and pumps the fresh Oxygen into the cabin of the car.

Steve (knowing they will never make a car thats affordable & works for more than 10 years without harming the planet)

Maybe I'll keep my bicycle.

[Brock Samson]

if you want another eye opener look at the specs and records of the Stanley Steamers.. 




http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bluebird-electric.net/bluebird_images/stanley_steamer_drawing.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bluebird-electric.net/steam_car_record.htm&h=201&w=292&sz=8&hl=en&start=3&tbnid=8BvRccIE-F4YMM:&tbnh=79&tbnw=115&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dstanley%2Bsteamer%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG

[ChgrSteve67]

I think buy the time you built up enought steam preasure to reach 200 MPH the boiler would explode.

You can't fool me, I saw back to the future III.

Hell I don't know. It seems that what ever fuel we use we come back to the same problem.

Car Bomb.

[89MOPAR]

 I saw the Audi  [TDI R10]   V12 twin turbo race from about 50 feet away.

It is not silent, but it is the quitest race car I've heard. And Blisteringly Fast !

[Brock Samson]

that a word?.

[89MOPAR]

 Sure is ! 

[derailed]

I think it's a smart move.
Like it or not this is the most logical step forward that make the most sence.
Why hold back.

110 percent

[bull]

So hydrogen will be $3/gal. soon, right?

Car companies can fart around all they want with alternative fuels but unti they all get on the same page and pick a standardized fuel for all new cars, be it electricity, alcohol, ethanol, hydrogen, fuel cells, propane, LNG, CNG, hybrid, steam, yard fudge, Mr. Fusion, whatever, they are going to flop. If you ask me BMW has done nothing more than make a rolling billboard that says, "Look at us, look at us! We're going to save the world!"

[Jon Smith]

What does the machine hat compresses the hydrogen run on?

[kab69440]

Most of the commercially produced hydrogen comes from natural gas. I don't know about anyone else, but my home heating bills have more than doubled over the last couple of years. What happens when all the cars are using it up too?

[pettyfan43]

I have no problems with it just so long as its safe and runs fine at 100+ degrees and below zero degrees.

I am sure the government is all for it, as soon as they can get rid of the gasoline they will. Thats the way is solve so many problems , like health-its bad for people and the earth, safety-gas burns too easy, no more gasoline in a beer bottle thrown though a window to start a fire and the best one-get all these old cars off the roads.

The Government does not want to get rid of gasoline! The EPA might but they are another group of nuts! And BOTH of them make WAY too much money form Gasoline! The Government in Taxes, and the EPA because they get to fine everybody that even sneezes the wrong way. If gasoline is gone, it will hurt BOTH of these organizations.

The EPA is a group of nutcases that have gotten WAY too powerful for the good of the people that they were originally supposed to "protect". 

[dodge freak]

Well thats true I agree with all of what you just said . But there still be other uses for oil and this is way out in the future-50 years or so  but it will be gone one day. Even if not in our life times it will happen, I just seen today that the worst case the world will run out of oil in 70 years and the best it 140 years.

But yeah there is some guys in Washington-I won't say their names-that will do all they can for the oil company's to sell the most gasoline as poss. Thats why the fuel standards have been unchanged for so long. Think trucks are going to have to get better milage soon, but cars they left alone.

[dkn1997]

What does the machine hat compresses the hydrogen run on?

I am glad someone else is wondering this too?  how much fossil fuel do you burn to make the hydrogen?  Same with electric cars, where the F do these environmental wenies think electricity comes from?

Bring back the nuclear plants, use that electricity to power your cars, make your hydrogen, whatever. 

I live 10 miles from the Shoreham nuclear power plant that the envrionmentalists killed in the late 70's. of cours they did not have the courtesy to kill it before they built the f'ing thing, so I am still paying for that every month, thank you.  I wish that thing was glowing as we speak.  then my electric bill would not be over 200 bucks a month.

[Troy]

Just FYI:
http://www.h2stations.org/
http://www.fuelcelltoday.com/FuelCellToday/IndustryInformation/IndustryInformationExternal/NewsDisplayArticle/0,1602,8073,00.html
http://www.hydrogenhighway.com/hhstory022.htm
http://www.hydrogenhighway.com/hhnews.htm

Troy

[89MOPAR]

 Hehee LILCO - I remember my dad bitching about that- Shoreham.
They did it here in WA also, built a nuke plant and never ran it. They got killed on the bonds the state floated to build it, and for financial reasons never ran the thing. Still complete and waiting for the first pull of the power rods...

[hemihead]

From what I understand,Bmw is not the only one playing with Hydro Cars.Shelby has been working on it and says it performs much like a Gas powered car.He says that converting present cars over to Hydro is a relatively cheap process.The reason why they are not producing them now is that they have to wait for a chain of refillling stations to be built.Out of all the alternate forms of engines, I would rather have this one.

[73dodge]

I think a hydrogen car would be great but with any alternative fuel source you have the same problems.

1. How to distribute. They gotta build allot of hydrogen fuel stations to supply all these cars.

2. You have to sell enough to bring the price down. Unfortunelty that's how the market works. They are going to be really expensive and only those who can afford it and fuel it will buy it. Once you get enough people to buy and it starts getting affordable then the average family will buy one. Of course the "poor" people in this country won't have to worry about affording one because the democrats will pass a law saying everyone who makes less than 30,000 a year will get a voucher to buy a hydrogen car for free. They will just pass more taxes on the "rich" which is really the middle class to the rest of us to pay for them.

[NHCharger]

I caught part of the Glenn Beck show on CNN last night. They were talking about the BMW hydrogen car. But the real story was Honda is coming out with a hydrogen car in 3 years. It will come with a refueling system about the size of a two draw filing cabinet that sits in your garage. When it's done fueling your car it will then start running the power in your house. Sounds kind of far fetched to me.

[Kern Dog]

Wow... how is that alternative energy stuff working out?

[el dub]

 With a few cut wires here and there it would make a nice terrorist weapon.