I did it, what have I done? EFI 440

[dkn1997]

I just bought the 440 MPFI manifold from member defiance off of ebay.  I think I got a good deal considering what it costs to buy a manifold, injectors, and having said manifold altered for EFI.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=180024341413&ih=008&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

Now comes the fun part, Computer, harness, fuel pump, etc......  I am pretty stoked anyway.  I used to run a Holley Projection and I really liked the part throttle response and I did put that in myself, so I dont' think that this system will be beyond me and I can visit the efi boards when I am ready to jump off a bridge...

wish me luck

[rt green]

pretty cool! love to hear how fast and smooth it is when you get it dialed in.

[Shakey]

Document it all on this site with text and photos - from purchase to start up so others can learn from your accomplishments.

Best of luck.

Looking forward to it - 

[dkn1997]

Thanks for the kind words.  It will take a fair amount of time, but will take pics of all......

[hotrod98]

I've seen a couple of the six pack efi setups lately. Would love to do that to my six pack motor. Thought seriously about going efi on my 426 as well. I love driving my wife's efi 360 cuda. Keep us up to date. You might see more interest here than you realize.

[Johnny SixPack]

Document it all on this site with text and photos - from purchase to start up so others can learn from your accomplishments.

Best of luck.

Looking forward to it - 

Definitely lookin' forward to the install and results!

[Johnny SixPack]

I've seen a couple of the six pack efi setups lately. Would love to do that to my six pack motor.

That's my desire too. 

When the 496 stroker in my "70 gets swapped into my "69 I'm hopin' to go that route.

Any info you have on them would be greatly appreciated.

This is the only link I have:

http://www.fbthrottlebodies.com/index.htm

They haven't updated the EFI 6-pack info for awhile though IIRC.

[Silver R/T]

good deal, its gonna be good setup if you go forced induction in future

[tan top]

good luck (dkn1997) with the conversion , it would be awesome if you could keep us updated with pictures & infomation as you progress 

[NYCMille]

Cool Kev - should be really cool when it's done.

[defiance]

wow, that 440 6-pack setup looks pretty neat!  I'm actually going to do a dual-quad setup on my new engine build myself (which is why I sold all this stuff), but unfortunately, that'll probably be 3-4 months down the road (starting with the bottom of the motor and moving my way up as money allows).  I'm excited to see my stuff go to good use 

[Rolling_Thunder]

Hey man...    I feel your pain....       here's my set up currently....      Aeromotive fuel pump and filter should be here end of the week....       stroker is almost together....      nice to see my plan actually comming together. 

[1fine69]

damn that is super nice. it looks pretty cool. keep us posted on how it works. hope you do something different with the air cleaner though i seen a supercharged challenger like that and the motor was awesome  but looked "wimpy" when it came to the air cleaner!

[dkn1997]

I plan on using my stock 68 unsilenced on it. I ran a stock dual snorkel on my old projection and since this is the same throttle body, then it should all be good.  I will paint the rails black and try to hide the wiring as much as possible.

[defiance]

That edelbrock setup is pretty nice...

Have they started selling the manifold alone, though?  I know before I had mine modded, I called them every month for a year and they said no...

I know it's nice to sell a big EFI kit, but come on, they could charge ridiculous prices for just the EFI manifold and still sell it like mad...  I'd have bought it before I gave up and had it machined...

Oh well.

[dkn1997]

something else to chew on:

http://www.holley.com/534-183.asp

[Rolling_Thunder]

That edelbrock setup is pretty nice...

Have they started selling the manifold alone, though?  I know before I had mine modded, I called them every month for a year and they said no...

I know it's nice to sell a big EFI kit, but come on, they could charge ridiculous prices for just the EFI manifold and still sell it like mad...  I'd have bought it before I gave up and had it machined...

Oh well.

to answer your question...      no they have not stated selling the intake...   I know someone at edelbrock so i managed to get one before they are released....           that is not the Edelbrock EFI kit...      it is an MSD throttle body, Victor 440 EFI intake, Edelbrock fuel rails, Accel 36lb/hr injectors, and I just recieved my Aeromotive A1000 fuel pump...     

[defiance]

Aaaaaahh.....  I recognized the intake and rails from the kit and just ASSumed

[dkn1997]

I wonder if I will have any problems with this being a dual plane manifold....with the air distribution.....probably not.
maybe I can mill down the divider plate? 

[gb70]

I have EFI on a Ray Barton 528 Hemi in my '70 Cuda that I bought from Matt Delaney back in '99.  Matt was running a 1,000 cfm throttle body with Accels Gen6 software.  I upgraded to Gen7, and changed the throttle body with a 1,250 cfm.  What a difference.  The software has come a very long ways over recent years.  I can get about 15 mpg on this BIG 528 due to the fuel effiecitancy of the EFI.  I run the software via my onboard lap top to monitor the vitals.  A/F is perect @13.5 to 1 constantly.  The other added benifets of an EFI is if the weather changes, humidity, gian or loss in elevation, it all does not matter, the software measures and adjust every milisecond.  The real trick is the calibration.  I do not claim to be an expert in the field and have no certificates of classes to speak of.  I used a guy that does this for a living.  I can PM or email anyone interested in his services.  He is out of Diamond Springs, Ca.  The company is called Auto Trend Diagnostics.  Dave is the owner.  He establishes proper tuning at all degrees of (WOT) open throtte.  Then downloads the results and fine tunes again to perfection.  Once it is dialed, your dialed in. 

[Rolling_Thunder]

I wonder if I will have any problems with this being a dual plane manifold....with the air distribution.....probably not.
maybe I can mill down the divider plate? 

I doubt you will have problems with the dual plane...       the reason why most EFI intakes are single planes is because you do not loose the bottom end torque like you would with a carb set up...    there is no fuel delivery problems...     the single plane does retain the high RPM HP...     again without the side effects of lost low end torque....       


in short the duel plane might give up a little top end - but on a street car when is it ever at WOT for more than 5 seconds at a time ?

[68ChargerJMP]

Have you looked into the Megasquirt stuff? Ive read of  people running it with great results. You can buy it built or build the ECU yourself for $200-$400 or so depending on which way you want it. You still have to round up your stuff like rails, injectors, etc... ,but you save a couple of grand compared to buying a BS3,Accel, or Electromotive ECU.

[Rolling_Thunder]

Have you looked into the Megasquirt stuff? Ive read of  people running it with great results. You can buy it built or build the ECU yourself for $200-$400 or so depending on which way you want it. You still have to round up your stuff like rails, injectors, etc... ,but you save a couple of grand compared to buying a BS3,Accel, or Electromotive ECU.

that has been my plan all along...    Megasquirt with a router box to make it fully sequential and EDIS

[defiance]

Ooooooooo router board 

[dkn1997]

I started reading lot's of mega squirt stuff and I saw that that router board may be ready to go in late 2006, which would mean soon...I made a partial shopping list.  this does not include the ECU or fuel pump, but most of the little stuff.  I am not into assembling the ECU, and don't want to make my wireing from scratch so....

DIYAUTOTUNE

        Descr/pn#                                     qty        price

1.  GM closed element CLT/IAT Sensor With Pigtail   2   $16.50
      one for Iat, one for Coolant temp.               
2.  Megasquirt-I or II relay cable                    1      $70.00
3.  TPS Pigtail (tps-3_piggy)                       1      $ 7.00
4.  Fuel injector connector (injconn-Bos)            8         $ 4.50
5.  Megasquirt wiring bundle-2'long (sm-wirebund)   1   $12.00





GLEN'S GARAGE

2.  900-2112  Relay Board                     1     $89.00
3.  670-0003  Relay Board Case                   1   $15.00


This is my first stab at it, so feel free to pick it apart and let me know if any of this is unnecessary, or if I missed a bunch of stuff.

Also, found an old laptop on a shelf in my bedroom, it was one from my wife's old job, they were upgrading and told her to keep it. It runs it's a thinkpad that runs windows 95, so it should be pretty good.