I Finally found a 440

[darkside]

I ran across a heck of a deal ,an all original 1969 440 hp complete engine out of a 69 charger r/t .numbers on the side of the block are
      6  5 68
     2536430-7
id pad E 440
         8-2  hp2

[tan top]

looks an awesome  deal  ,  can you see  a vin stamped on a machined pad on the passenger side of the block just above the oil pan rail  . if so i would be intrested what it reads  

[firefighter3931]

Nice score ! It even has the original HP manifolds on it !   


Ron

[darkside]

looks an awesome  deal  ,  can you see  a vin stamped on a machined pad on the passenger side of the block just above the oil pan rail  . if so i would be intrested what it reads  

XS29L9B106979
What all can you tell me about it?

[Blown70]

Nice complete motor you go your hands on there.   

[Shakey]

looks an awesome  deal  ,  can you see  a vin stamped on a machined pad on the passenger side of the block just above the oil pan rail  . if so i would be intrested what it reads  

XS29L9B106979
What all can you tell me about it?

Comes out of a 1969 Dodge Charger R/T.

Perhaps Chris can tell you if he has that car in his registry.  Looks like an early build.

[firefighter3931]

looks an awesome  deal  ,  can you see  a vin stamped on a machined pad on the passenger side of the block just above the oil pan rail  . if so i would be intrested what it reads  

XS29L9B106979
What all can you tell me about it?

The "XS29L9" confirms that this engine was originally built for a 69 Charger R/T. The "B"  designates the plant....the numbers are the sequential build numbers for that car.

[darkside]

Its going in my 69 charger I  can't decide if i want to build it back stock or go all out.

[dodge freak]

Stock is for the birds unless you have a time machine and can go back in time and get the good old gas those motors had back then. Today you should have a high power ignition system and a newer type of cam. These new Holley HP carbs are much better too.

[defiance]

Hey, small world, I was just responding to your post on LRRS!

[69charger2002]

i knew with it being build in june of 68 it was gonna be an early 69 R/T.. you should wait before you start the build and just make sure it isn't the #'s matching motor someone is looking for. if it is, you may get something even better out of the deal. i know if i found my numbers matching 69 HP 440 i'd HOOK someone up for it
trav

[darkside]

Its an arkansas motor and from what the guy told me the car was  rotted beyond repair.

[tan top]

thanks for the vin #  ( darkside)    a long shot  but i was hoping it might of been my missing engine  . it was a million to 1 shot i know .
   
       6 . 5. 68  block casting  date
     2536430-7 block casting number
    E 440   69 model year  440 ci
    8-2  hp2  assembly date   august  2nd  68    hp = R/T motor     2  =  assembled on the   second  shift

[Steve P.]

Now there's a score!!  Nice find. 

[terrible one]

Oh I'm jealous!

[darkside]

[defiance]

Hey, that looks kinda familiar; I was looking at basically the same thing last weekend!

Only... mine had a bunch of rust channels between the water channels and the cylinders... ( )

[dodge freak]

So it needs a good rebuild , you still got a good deal those 440 are getting hard to find, a 1969 I though all those motors were gone.

[Shakey]

looks an awesome  deal  ,  can you see  a vin stamped on a machined pad on the passenger side of the block just above the oil pan rail  . if so i would be intrested what it reads   

XS29L9B106979
What all can you tell me about it?

Holy crap!!!!   You're not going to believe this.................


I HAVE THAT CAR IN THE REGISTRY!!!!

I HAVE THE OWNERS NAME!!!

I HAVE THE OWNERS ADDRESS!!!

I HAVE HIS EMAIL!!!!


YOU HAVE HIS ORIGINAL ENGINE!!!

Looking forward to seeing how this turns out.      

I'll start

[dodge freak]

Man I glad thats not me that has that motor. Not sure if I like to sell it BUT it does belong it the right car if poss. I would not want to rip the guy off either but thats a hard to find motor. Again I glad I don't have to decide-think I sell it if the guy want it. Guess another would come along some day.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

looks an awesome  deal  ,  can you see  a vin stamped on a machined pad on the passenger side of the block just above the oil pan rail  . if so i would be intrested what it reads   

XS29L9B106979
What all can you tell me about it?

Holy crap!!!!   You're not going to believe this.................


I HAVE THAT CAR IN THE REGISTRY!!!!

I HAVE THE OWNERS NAME!!!

I HAVE THE OWNERS ADDRESS!!!

I HAVE HIS EMAIL!!!!


YOU HAVE HIS ORIGINAL ENGINE!!!

Looking forward to seeing how this turns out.      

I'll start

Mike, thanks for saving that for me!  I accidentally hit delete by accident.

This is a major event for the registry.  This is one of the core purposes of a registry....to reunite owners, parts, paperwork etc.

I will be contacting both parties individually to set up a possible contact......

PS---he is also a member of this site....

Chris

[defiance]

Hey, quick FYI - darkside - If you do decide to sell this back to the numbers matching owner, I *THINK* I've got access to another 440 just a few miles outside of Little Rock.  I'm getting on the phone right now to make sure , and I'll confirm it ASAP.

Good to see neat stuff like this happen and it'd be cool to be part of it

[defiance]

Grr

Nevermind, just got off the phone... the guy sold it - no kidding here - last week.

He did say, though, that he happened to know that Merriman wrecking service in Atkins had a few 440s.  No idea if they're HPs or any of that, but at least it couldn't hurt to check I suppose...

Sorry... thought I was going to be a help

[Shakey]

This is a major event for the registry.  This is one of the core purposes of a registry....to reunite owners, parts, paperwork etc.

I will be contacting both parties individually to set up a possible contact......

PS---he is also a member of this site....

Chris

This is the reason I registered my car with you.  It did take some convincing but I eventually did, even though my 440 is long, long gone.

As I stated, this should be a great story and I would hope to hear the outcome.

This would make a great testimonial for the front page of your site Chris.   

[Chris G.]

This is one of the core purposes of a registry....to reunite owners, parts, paperwork etc.
Chris

I couldn't agree more Chris. It's only inevitable that something like this would occur. I hope the car owner and the current owner of this engine can work something out. 

Why ANYONE would hesitate to register is beyond me. It can only help the person who wants to register.

[hemigeno]

Why ANYONE would hesitate to register is beyond me. It can only help the person who wants to register.

Chris, this is pretty cool!!!!  I think I'd fall over if someone called up and said they had the N/M engine for my car...

[firefighter3931]

This is a major event for the registry.  This is one of the core purposes of a registry....to reunite owners, parts, paperwork etc.

I will be contacting both parties individually to set up a possible contact......

PS---he is also a member of this site....

Chris

This is the reason I registered my car with you.  It did take some convincing but I eventually did, even though my 440 is long, long gone.

As I stated, this should be a great story and I would hope to hear the outcome.

This would make a great testimonial for the front page of your site Chris.   

Shakey (Mike) is your car originally from Ontario ? I'm assuming it doesn't have the #'s engine in it ? The 440 in my 70 r/t is a 69 (E stamp) block....what are the chances ? 

Ron

[Shakey]

Why ANYONE would hesitate to register is beyond me. It can only help the person who wants to register.

I am sure there are many things that are beyond you!  

I'll explain to you and Geno why there was some hesitation on my part.  

I am relatively new to the hobby as I only bought my car a year and half ago.    Prior to buying the car I poked around the web and read a truckload of negative stuff about the hobby such as e-bay scams, rebodies, theft etc.    Then I buy a car, post some pics and people are wanting to know what the VIN # is.    Put yourself in my shoes!

So, I choose to sit tight and learn a bit more about the 1969 Dodge Charger Registry, what it's all about as well as the fella that is running it.  Make sense?    Well, needless to say, Chris is a more than just a moderator here, he is diplomatic, helpful and treats all of the members of this site with the utmost respect.  That said a lot as far as my decison making process.  After asking Chris numerous questions as to what the purpose of the registry is / was, I felt comfortable and registered my car.  Make sense?

Sorry for having to insert this story into the thread, but I just wanted to make sure Chris & Geno understood why ANYONE would hesitate.  That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!  

[miamivice]

HEY WAIT!

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Chris just emailed me to notify me about this thread, thats the engine to my RT/SE charger!!!
Would you be willing to sell it?

[Charger Aficionado]

Amazing.  Thanks Chris for Making that Registry!  I hope this is re-united with the original owner!!!  I know of some '69 Blocks HP if you need one...

[Shakey]

Shakey (Mike) is your car originally from Ontario ? I'm assuming it doesn't have the #'s engine in it ? The 440 in my 70 r/t is a 69 (E stamp) block....what are the chances ? 

Ron

Kincardine   

I have money!   

[firefighter3931]

Shakey (Mike) is your car originally from Ontario ? I'm assuming it doesn't have the #'s engine in it ? The 440 in my 70 r/t is a 69 (E stamp) block....what are the chances ? 

Ron

Kincardine   

I have money!   

I'll check the (block) vin next time i'm down in Bowmanville. 


Ron

[tan top]

looks an awesome  deal  ,  can you see  a vin stamped on a machined pad on the passenger side of the block just above the oil pan rail  . if so i would be intrested what it reads   

XS29L9B106979
What all can you tell me about it?

Holy crap!!!!   You're not going to believe this.................


I HAVE THAT CAR IN THE REGISTRY!!!!

I HAVE THE OWNERS NAME!!!

I HAVE THE OWNERS ADDRESS!!!

I HAVE HIS EMAIL!!!!


YOU HAVE HIS ORIGINAL ENGINE!!!

Looking forward to seeing how this turns out.      

I'll start

                         thats awesome Chris you have the info on this car  ,  like Shakey said " looking foward to seeing how this turns out "    
         

Amazing. Thanks Chris for Making that Registry! I hope this is re-united with the original owner!!! I know of some '69 Blocks HP if you need one...

              hmmm   any charger R/T  blocks  ,     mines out there some place 

[Chris G.]

I'll explain to you and Geno why there was some hesitation on my part.  

I'll keep it short and sweet Shake. You didn't really hesitate, you just did some research before registering. Make sense?    What you did is probably what most do. They come across any registry, look into it a little further and then most likely register.

I think most people that run registries are very easy to get in contact with. I know Myself and Don are, Barry Washington, Chris and many others as well. I think it's pretty easy to see we are all genuine guys who just want to help people in the hobby. And none of us ask for your credit card number when you are seeking info. 

I have paperwork for a guy who won a car off ebay. When I contacted him, he didn't even care. I was hoping to get it to him, but he never kept in contact. I think I would drive half way across the country if somebody had some paperwork on my car. OK, maybe I would just ask him to mail it to me.

[darkside]

The motor doesn't appear to ever have been been rebuild.Do you know how hard it would be to find another 69 440 hp2 thats un molested.I don't think i would sell it.I'm going to build it for my 69 charger.

[hemi68charger]

Wow,, complete from pan to air cleaner to fan.......... Don't throw that fan and adaptor away, those are getting harder to find.................

Great score..........

Troy

[miamivice]

here is a pic of the RT/SE car that engine came from

[Wakko]

Darkside, I hope you reconsider...perhaps you guys can come to some kind of deal?  HP2 blocks ARE out there, perhaps if Miamivice can replace the block at least and let you keep the accessories.  Not as cool as having the whole thing, but hey, better than nothing.  If I had an RT/SE and I knew where the original motor was I'd be awake at night trying to come up with a way to get it.

[defiance]

I'm keeping my eye out and will let you know if I find an hp2 block as well...

[darkside]

here is a pic of the RT/SE car that engine came from

Did you buy that car off ebay? It would take some serious money to get me to sell the engine.I looked for a long time  to find a E 69 440 hp.You can find 71 up 440's all day long but everyone wants to keep the hi-po's.

[defiance]

Just curious; why are you concerned with the year?  I know the hp was different, but if you're doing any kind of build-up, that really won't matter...  Are you planning to keep the motor in stock config?

[darkside]

Just curious; why are you concerned with the year?  I know the hp was different, but if you're doing any kind of build-up, that really won't matter...  Are you planning to keep the motor in stock config?

Because my car is a 69 charger.I haven't made up my mind on the build yet.

[firefighter3931]

It would take some serious money to get me to sell the engine.I looked for a long time  to find a E 69 440 hp.You can find 71 up 440's all day long but everyone wants to keep the hi-po's.

Does this mean you're holding Miami Vices' matching numbers engine for ransom ? I sure hope not ! If he can find another HP engine for you i don't see what the big issue is 

There's no difference between an Hp block and a non Hp block.....they're all the same. In many cases the Non Hp blocks are better candidates for an overbore due to thicker cylinder walls and less core shift.   

A numbers matching car only has one chance to be numbers matching. 



Ron

[darkside]

The motor is not for sale .

[firefighter3931]

The motor is not for sale .

Or trade ?

[dodge freak]

I thought I was hard to get along with.

Come on if you get another 440 whats the difference ? If this guy has proof-like a copy of the title or a registration and you can see for yourself it was in that car it would be only right for the motor to go back in that car. Think if it was the other way around.

I am on here to help others with their hobby-I have been fooling around with cars for 25 years now so its only right that I try to help others. When I was young older guys used to drop by my garage and help me out. This is my way of saying thanks I guess.

Please think about it-that motor won't be any differant than another old 440 but for some reason # matching means alot for some people. You came on here to get help but now you are saying well I don't think I will help others , that is not right.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Oh boy.  This is NOT what I hoped would happen.   In my dream of "perfect registry bliss" this would be a smooth transaction of sorts.  I see it is not the case.

While I agree that a car can be #'s matching once, I also agree with the engine owners prerogative.   He found it, bought it and wants to keep it.  Bottom line.  You cant flame the guy for that.....you can wholeheartedly disagree with him but thats all...

darkside, have you talked to miamivice about the situation at all?   This whole deal should be between you and him and thats all.  Don't let anyone else try to sway either of you.

I am going to lock this topic now for this reason.

Please keep us & myself updated of the outcome either way.

PS---I agree with firefighter3931

PSS----don't tell anyone but my old engine in my R/T was "stamped" E440HP but it really was a 440 out of a '77 Newport     ...my new one is a '73