1972 Bengal Charger revisted.

[hemi-hampton]

I bought Deweys 1972 Bengal Charger. Heres some updates to some Questions asked. Yes, I did find a Broadcast sheet behind the back seat. NO, It's not original paint job. It is originally EV2 Hemi Orange but has had one repaint. Meaning maybe it is that Teachers old car but strip painted over in repaint? I'll try to post some pictures? LEON.

[hemi-hampton]

Rubbed that old dirty oxidized paint. Has some shine. LEON.

[Ghoste]

Nice, but the dog doesn't look all that impressed.

[Shakey]

I would hope you plan on keeping those tires on the car when the resto is completed!   

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

cool, do u plan on a resto or whats the plan for the car?

[BigBlockSam]

cool car man, googd luck with it

[hemi-hampton]

 

[Todd Wilson]

BUT, would it be worth it on a 318 car? 5 years from now who knows, Maybe a $50,000+ car at Barret-Jackson? Maybe $100,000? Who knows, Not another mint restored one sold to compare it to?? If not worth it or no convincing documentation then maybe a quicky resto but I hate those. LEON

Might still be the 500$ car it is!!?!     



Todd

[Silver R/T]

cool project

[hemi-hampton]

Todd, So your saying a rare car with only 2 known to exist is only worth $500?  LATER.

[tan top]

like i said on the other thread about this charger , intresting for sure . did you find out what dealer it was sold from when new ?

[twilt]

Todd, So your saying a rare car with only 2 known to exist is only worth $500?  :shruggy:Get a Clue. LATER.

I cant speak for Todd, but i think he was just yanking your chain a little for fun.   So are you saying that this car would be of particularly higher value because it is a "Bengal Charger" ?  (IF that can be documented)  Personally, I would find that hard to believe. My point of view is that" it is what it is" from the factory...being a low optioned  318/bench seat/column shift car.  Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but representing it as a rare 1 of 2 car with significant value is kind of ludicrous in my book.

[41husk]

If you like it restore it, drive it enjoy it. possible future investment is what you tell your wife when you want to fork over the cash, not what real car people care about.  Not saying that having a wing car or #s hemi, make any car guy think about value every now and again.

[hemi-hampton]

 

[RD]

Saying a Bengal worth no more is like saying the St. Louis Blues Challenger worth no more, or Mod Top no more, or Gator Grain no more, or funky colored one of strip no more, Or Panther Pink no more, Then why are Panther Pink cars so exspensive. Why is a 70 Hemi Cuda with 652 made worth so much? I like this car & will restore even if it was not a Bengal. Maybe I'll Tubb it with a Blown Hemi? LATER.

i believe everyone is just being realistic.  we do not want to rain on your parade, but until there is irrefutable evidence that your car is a bengal charger, then currently it is just what twilt stated that it was.

this follows along with something i say, as well as many others:

"Just because it is rare does not mean that it is desirable."

Take that with a grain of salt, because the car is only as desirable and worth as much as the owner is willing to put into it.

[twilt]

Saying a Bengal worth no more is like saying the St. Louis Blues Challenger worth no more, or Mod Top no more, or Gator Grain no more, or funky colored one of strip no more, Or Panther Pink no more, Then why are Panther Pink cars so exspensive. Why is a 70 Hemi Cuda with 652 made worth so much? I like this car & will restore even if it was not a Bengal. Maybe I'll Tubb it with a Blown Hemi? LATER.

As far as those comparisons,  those value added options were done by FACTORY and would have significant visual impact on the car. Hence, the added value. I would not pay a nickel extra for a car that a dealership threw on one or two small custom emblems. When it comes to 3rd Gen Chargers,which are my area of interest,  I dont use 318 and rare in the same sentence.

[Chris G.]

i believe everyone is just being realistic.  we do not want to rain on your parade, but until there is irrefutable evidence that your car is a bengal charger, then currently it is just what twilt stated that it was.

I believe from the original post, no paperwork was found by the original owner. If something pop's up now, I would be surprised. Heck, I thought the car was taken apart by Dewey when he bought? Sure enough you pop the back seat and bamm, there's the sheet. It's a cool car, and my gut tells me it's some sort of Bengal Charger from the dealer, but proving it and expecting people to pay big dollars is a whole 'nother deal. I'm not saying it wouldn't be cool to own though.

"Just because it is rare does not mean that it is desirable."

I couldn't agree more. 

[hemi-hampton]

 

[hemi-hampton]

 

[Ghoste]

But what if the only thing Mr. Norm added was an emblem on the side?  At the end, you shouldn't care what the car is worth or if it's pedigree can be proven.  Buy them and drive them because you like them.

[Goldfinger71]

Hemi'................we are family here and it is the family who should be honest and give constructive critisism(did I spell that right?)

You can not NMO compare this car to the car's you had listed.All those car's were at the high point of the "muscle wars"....
And I know that you are a good guy and know you can't compare those car's to a 72 318 Charger(bengal or not).The reason why the 2nd gen bengal Chargers are valuable is becuase 2nd gen Chargers have litteraly always had a strong following not just with Moparheads but with all kinds of gearheads.

3rd gen Chargers have never been accepted as true performance cars.Heck we are just really now starting to get some love!

Restore the car becuase YOU WANT TO!NOT FOR FUTURE PROFIT!...If you like the car build it.
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"Just because it is rare does not mean that it is desirable."
It also doesn't make it valuable.....(to others)Beauty is in the eye's of a 72 Bengal Charger owner!....GOOD LUCK WITH IT!

[Chris G.]

3rd gen Chargers have never been accepted as true performance cars.Heck we are just really now starting to get some love!

GF71, I disagree. The '71 Hemi Charger is selling for big time bucks (more than a 68/69). The 6pack cars are also commanding big money. The right 3rd gen Charger could get some serious coin. They did some really cool things on 71-74 Chargers.

[twilt]

TWIT, Hmmm, 69 Z-28 Camaros never came with that 302 Crossram from Factory, That was Dealer installed. How about those Yenco 427 Camaros, Chevelles, Novas & Nickey 427's & Baldwin Motion 427 & Dana 427 these are all Dealer installed & get big bucks, How about MR. NORM from Grand Spalding with all his 1969 440 Darts & 340 super charged GSS Demons, those are all dealer installed not Chrysler, So your saying these cars are worth nothing because not Factory made/installed. I think most people would disagree with that. LATER.

I will refrain from name calling or creative user ID modification..................More bad examples in my opinion. All are performance related enhancements. The Bengal is just custom dealer installed emblems.....whoopee frickin doo da   

And since i didnt get any answer whatsoever in the earlier post...... as far as the 68 Bengal Chargers.... does a 318 68 Bengal Charger command significantly more $$ in the market place than other non Bengal 318 cars?  If they do, whats the difference % wise? an educated guess ?

[hemi-hampton]

 

[nh_mopar_fan]

 

wake me when it's over.

[Goldfinger71]

Hey Chris'
I should have made my post clearer.The 71 Hemi and Six-Pack Chargers are bringing good money,im well aware of it! :angel:I was actually reffering to the later' 3rd gens.Because 71's are 3rd gen's they are really the only ones bringing real good money.

[THE CHARGER PUNK]

I personally I love that car and I say that if u cant find any info besides those emblems that make it a ''bengal charger'' then i say go full blown resto and add every available option that you could order in 1972 on the charger model and i mean every single one but keep it hemi orange with black top and interior so the options would be like this,Sun roof,hideaway headlights,a/c,power steering,power disc brakes,
(se trim interior trim),dual sport mirrors,tuff wheel,dual exhuast,machine gun tips,tachometer,am/fm radio with recorder,bumperettes,window louvers,factory tinted windows,and lastly the rare 1972 option............the 440-6pack backed by a beefy 727 torqueflite with a dana 60 with 3.55 gears, i say make this car what every other 72 charger wanted to be, the last of the muscle cars, cuz i can say if it were my car thats the way it would go ROCK ON!!!!  -MATT

[twilt]

I personally I love that car and I say that if u cant find any info besides those emblems that make it a ''bengal charger'' then i say go full blown resto and add every available option that you could order in 1972 on the charger model and i mean every single one but keep it hemi orange with black top and interior so the options would be like this,Sun roof,hideaway headlights,a/c,power steering,power disc brakes,
(se trim interior trim),dual sport mirrors,tuff wheel,dual exhuast,machine gun tips,tachometer,am/fm radio with recorder,bumperettes,window louvers,factory tinted windows,and lastly the rare 1972 option............the 440-6pack backed by a beefy 727 torqueflite with a dana 60 with 3.55 gears, i say make this car what every other 72 charger wanted to be, the last of the muscle cars, cuz i can say if it were my car thats the way it would go ROCK ON!!!!  -MATT

Those are some great ideas. Sure is easy to figure out what to do with a car when you are spending someone elses money.

[Goldfinger71]

 

[Chris G.]

I was actually reffering to the later' 3rd gens.Because 71's are 3rd gen's they are really the only ones bringing real good money.

That's true, but to a 72-74 Charger lover, that's probably a good thing. 

[RD]

I was actually reffering to the later' 3rd gens.Because 71's are 3rd gen's they are really the only ones bringing real good money.

That's true, but to a 72-74 Charger lover, that's probably a good thing. 

it sure is!

[Nacho-RT74]

And since i didnt get any answer whatsoever in the earlier post...... as far as the 68 Bengal Chargers.... does a 318 68 Bengal Charger command significantly more $$ in the market place than other non Bengal 318 cars?  If they do, whats the difference % wise? an educated guess ?

just a question... weren't 68 Bengal Chargers ALL with 383 4bbl 727 ? so I don't know why 318 68 bengal floated on is just a question, no discusion

By the way, I think the emblems itself could worth almost the complete car worth for a 68 Bengal Owner on ebay market

beside that, will be nice this stuff is for real... 72 Bengal for history

[hemi-hampton]

The 68 Bengal came with your choice of a 318, 383 & even a 6 Cylinder. Only about 10-12 of them were R/T's. All had black R/T Strip, even the 6 Cylinder Cars. LEON.

[terrible one]

And since i didnt get any answer whatsoever in the earlier post...... as far as the 68 Bengal Chargers.... does a 318 68 Bengal Charger command significantly more $$ in the market place than other non Bengal 318 cars?  If they do, whats the difference % wise? an educated guess ?

By the way, I think the emblems itself could worth almost the complete car worth for a 68 Bengal Owner on ebay market

Nacho, I'm pretty sure that the emblems for the '68 Bengal Chargers are different than the ones on this car.

[hemi-hampton]

Heres the 68 Emblem, Different then the 72 Emblem. LEON.

[8WHEELER]

The 68 Bengal came with your choice of a 318, 383 & even a 6 Cylinder. Only about 10-12 of them were R/T's. All had black R/T Strip, even the 6 Cylinder Cars. LEON.

Interesting, I have only seen and heard over the years that they were loaded AC and everything 383 cars, and the added stripe.
I have never heard there was actual RT's in there, do you have some paper work or web site I could check this out on?

Dan

[Troy]

just a question... weren't 68 Bengal Chargers ALL with 383 4bbl 727 ? so I don't know why 318 68 bengal floated on is just a question, no discusion

Interesting, I have only seen and heard over the years that they were loaded AC and everything 383 cars, and the added stripe.
I have never heard there was actual RT's in there, do you have some paper work or web site I could check this out on?

Dan

Here's the info I posted the last time on the 68 Bengal Chargers:
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,5309.msg62457.html#msg62457

There were supposedly 10-12 R/Ts but no Hemis. There were some slant 6 cars too.

I found this picture in an eBay ad that looks like a magazine article:

Look closely at car #3.

Troy

[8WHEELER]

I have only seen two Bengal Chargers in person both were loaded with options and 383's. I wonder
where all the others are ''in barns'' they would bring big big money in this market.

Dan

[Nacho-RT74]

Heres the 68 Emblem, Different then the 72 Emblem. LEON.

Ok it could be just a key chain emblem ? LOL... joke...

For a 72 bengal charger.. if 68 had black R/T tail stripes, I would add the 71 R/T stripe along the body. Didn't need to have the rallye doors, just the stripes. just an opinion.

[Troy]

More stuff that I found:



I'll start a new page for this topic so we have a better reference when the subject comes up.

Troy

[hemi-hampton]

Here's a 1968 Bengal Charger Newspaper Ad. Enjoy. Leon.