DCX Product Plans. Challanger news...

[Brock Samson]

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060808/FREE/60807008/1041/MOTORSPORTSNEWS


  Dodge Challenger

LaSorda surprised absolutely nobody when he flew to Daytona Beach, Fla., for the Pepsi 400 stock car race last month to announce that the popular Dodge Challenger concept will become a production model in 2008. The Challenger was last made in 1974.

The new Challenger will be built on the LY platform, which is basically a re-engineered version of the LX platform used for the 300, Charger and Magnum. The Challenger will have a wheelbase 4 inches shorter than that of the Charger sedan.

The car will be priced higher than its main rival, the Ford Mustang. It will be equipped with the 5.7-liter Hemi V-8. An SRT-8 model will pack the 6.1-liter Hemi V-8. A V-6 model is not expected.



charger to be redesigned too...

[Lowprofile]

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060808/FREE/60807008/1041/MOTORSPORTSNEWS


  Dodge Challenger

LaSorda surprised absolutely nobody when he flew to Daytona Beach, Fla., for the Pepsi 400 stock car race last month to announce that the popular Dodge Challenger concept will become a production model in 2008. The Challenger was last made in 1974.

The new Challenger will be built on the LY platform, which is basically a re-engineered version of the LX platform used for the 300, Charger and Magnum. The Challenger will have a wheelbase 4 inches shorter than that of the Charger sedan.

The car will be priced higher than its main rival, the Ford Mustang. It will be equipped with the 5.7-liter Hemi V-8. An SRT-8 model will pack the 6.1-liter Hemi V-8. A V-6 model is not expected.



charger to be redesigned too...

We could only hope................stay tuned...

[Brock Samson]

here's a concept truck..
the Rampage..



http://www.truckblog.com/story-865-2006_dodge_rampage_concept

and the hornet..
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060807/FREE/60731018/1023/THISWEEKSISSUE




(i had to use this image cause the car it's self is  so damn ugly.. I know,.. "What Car?!"...)

[TylerCharger69]

Now...THAT'S a new model Charger I could live with!!!!

[Troy]

Hmmm, Autoweek needs a research assistant....

The Challenger was last made in 1974.

http://www.allpar.com/model/sapparo.html

Troy

[Brock Samson]

maybe silver?.. 

[SirNik73]

Well To all the Guys for DCX that might be snooping around... I'm Currently saving my  to buy the challenger... I'm 22 (almost 23) and i figure by the time i'm 25 and my car insurance rates are down i'll beable to get a good used car.. or maybe even a new car... concidering the newest car i own is an 84 this is a big deal... I'm the mopar man in my circle of friends... and my friends would sure love to hear that they are not making a V6 model... because if they only make the Hemi cars then i know they will be outta my price range... but by 2008 and the time i'm 25 maybe one of these good used cars will be in my price range...

My uncel is a Mach1 collector... what can i say...

[PocketThunder]

maybe silver?.. 

[TheGhost]

Dammit.  I wanted a V-6 model.

[BigBlackDodge]

No v-6's? More toys for the rich boys I guess.

I'm betting the Camaro will have a  v-6 option to compete with the Mustangs............


BBD

[defiance]

Uck.  Don't get your hopes up on that charger redesign... read further; it says one of the primary goals in the redesign is cross-platform compatibility with the Mercedes stuff.  Maybe they'll slip in some actual good design, but it doesn't sound like that's the plan.

[BigBlackDodge]

No v-6's? More toys for the rich boys I guess.

I'm betting the Camaro will have a  v-6 option to compete with the Mustangs............


BBD

What'ya know....................I guessed correctly.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2006-08-10-gm-camaro_x.htm

The new rear-wheel-drive Camaro will be available with either V-6 or V-8 engine and with the choice of manual or automatic transmission, GM said.


BBD

[Brock Samson]

well i'm hoping they do like they did, before, when they brought out the '68, which was a homerun design... after the slow selling '67.

hope for the best, prepare for the worst...

so 'm also preparing to 
i haven't given up on DCX yet... i just want a real hardtop. as i've said since the get go... back in 2000...

[chrisII]

Hmmm, Autoweek needs a research assistant....

The Challenger was last made in 1974.

http://www.allpar.com/model/sapparo.html

Troy

I cought that one too..guess it wasnt too popular since i cant even find a pic of an 82 challenger (im not sure on what years they were made), however there are a few pics of its sister the suporo.I guess dodge really didnt make them but they did sell them with there name on them. when i was a kid our neighbors had a suporo, it wasnt a bad riding lil car as i remember.

[dodge freak]

Yeah there was some front wheel drive with a turbo 4 banger in 1982 that Chrysler called the "Challenger" they were all over the place when it was new. To be honest it was ok, I remember seeing one going over 100 mph on the freeway from around 60mph, not to bad and they got very good millage IDK what but it was much more than 10 what most cars got then. The car was very light and small and must have been made very cheap cause they are all gone now. 2.2 turbo or something like that.

The real challengers were made until 1974 thats what should have been said.

[dodge freak]

Yes just look on e-bay for any , nope all I seen was 2 brochure's when they were new. Yeah 2.2 it had and a nice paint job. Man I can't believe they are all gone, back in the day you could see one almost everyday, people drove them hard and they were made cheap, they all rusted out and blew the motors. If you look on e-bay all the time 1 or 2 must be still around, why anybody would want one now ?? There is so many better front wheel drive cars now.

[Vainglory, Esq.]

No v-6's? More toys for the rich boys I guess.

I'm betting the Camaro will have a  v-6 option to compete with the Mustangs............


BBD

Some of you people are ridiculous.  You berate Mustangs and Camaros and V-6 Chargers for having no balls, saying you'd only ever consider a hemi or a v-8.  Now, all of a sudden, it's class warfare because you can't have your beloved v-6?  Gimme a break - is it possible for the modern Chrysler Corporation to do anything right in your eyes.

[BigBlackDodge]

No v-6's? More toys for the rich boys I guess.

I'm betting the Camaro will have a  v-6 option to compete with the Mustangs............


BBD

Some of you people are ridiculous.  You berate Mustangs and Camaros and V-6 Chargers for having no balls, saying you'd only ever consider a hemi or a v-8.  Now, all of a sudden, it's class warfare because you can't have your beloved v-6?  Gimme a break - is it possible for the modern Chrysler Corporation to do anything right in your eyes.

Excuse me...............................but I have NEVER said that!!!!!!!!..............where in the hell have I EVER done so?? Show me!


This is my opinion of course....................sorry I did not check-in with with the thought-nazi's first.

I'm really sorry that I would like a nice stylish car that would get decent gas mileage............call me crazy. I also have several 'modern' DCX Chryslers as you put it...............................so I guess they can do something right.

Please forward me your email so I can run things by you before I post anything ever again....................if you won't.........keep your comments to yourself.


BBD

[hemihead]

Why shouldn't be class warfare?Since when does the priveledge of owning a fast car belong to someone who has money? All I want is a bare bones, 2 door Mopar. No fancy options. No A/C ,Stereo,Power Windows, Cruise,Seat Heaters,ABS,or GPS( I can read a map ).Everyone wants a fast Mopar but they buy all the options they can.I want a car built on the Road Runner principle.Until then,I'll never buy a new car.

[dodge freak]

I don't even want air bags, cat. converters, plastic bumpers. Power brakes maybe, power steering maybe again but why make the cars come with them. ? Cause thats what the insurance company's want and big business gets what they want and we end up paying for it.

The first thing I did when I got my car was to rip the ignition, carb and exhaust manifolds out and put in MSD, Holley and Headman parts in it. When I ever get another car most likely a whole lot more crap is coming out of it.

[hemigeno]

Maybe this will work with what some of you guys want (copied from a post to the St. Louis Area Mopars Yahoo group):

I thought maybe some of you might be interested in this illustration I
just received from Jack Thomas. This photo, along with letters proposing
that DaimlerChrysler build and sell a new Challenger lightweight Hemi Super
Stock package car in the same way that they did the 1964, 1965 and 1968 Hemi
Super stock cars in the past. I sent a letter and proposal to Jon Clark and
Daivd Hakim of Mopar Performance/Direct Connection and Jack forwarded my
letter and a futher note and this photo to Dr. Zetsche. Jack had this
illustration made to show what it could be.
Chrysler has the unique opportunity to take advanatge of this new car
and bring back the excitement we knew in the 1960s. The NHRA rules
essentially invite the OE manufacturers to build a package car with a
minimum of 50 units and we are hoping they do just that and more. Hints from
Mopar Performance indicate that this may really happen.




Jim Schild

Whaddya think?

[Ponch ®]

Why shouldn't be class warfare?Since when does the priveledge of owning a fast car belong to someone who has money? 

since the first car was invented, komrade.

[Lightning]

guys! there IS gonna be a V-6 Challenger! with a 5-speed even!

[PocketThunder]

guys! there IS gonna be a V-6 Challenger! with a 5-speed even!

Oh thank God...  but i want a V-8 in my Chally.

[Ponch ®]

guys! there IS gonna be a V-6 Challenger! with a 5-speed even!

Oh thank God...  but i want a V-8 in my Chally.

You superfluous capitalist pig.

[BigBlackDodge]

guys! there IS gonna be a V-6 Challenger! with a 5-speed even!

Where does this info come from?


BBD

[BigBlackDodge]

Hmmm, Autoweek needs a research assistant....

The Challenger was last made in 1974.

http://www.allpar.com/model/sapparo.html

Troy

Dodge also needs help.............

http://www.dodge.com/dodge_life/news/car_news/challenger_concept.html


BBD

[TheGhost]

guys! there IS gonna be a V-6 Challenger! with a 5-speed even!

I hope so.  In a ragtop version would be even sweeter.

[Lightning]

guys! there IS gonna be a V-6 Challenger! with a 5-speed even!

Where does this info come from?


BBD

A Very, very, very reliable source

[dodge freak]

Guess he's sleeping with the big shot's daughter, ha ha. No hey make that his wife, yeah thats it.

[Troy]

I almost have to agree with Vainglory here. When the Charger came out - even though I can't stand the looks - the underlying argument was something to the effect of "but it's so fast". So, if I get to hear about how fast it is all day then the V6 model is really a non-issue. Now, if the Challenger looks good I don't care what engine they stick in it. I think the Prowler did fairly well even with that modified blender motor they stuck in it. Mustangs sell with a V6 because of the style (and the fact that most "normal" people want basic transportation - not a race car). The Camaro will do well with a V6 I'm sure. If DCX can save a little money and build a class winning car by only having one engine option then I think it's great. If they screw it up though they don't have a lot of options. It makes sense to release the "Big Dog" first to grab all the marketing attention they can. If a V6 model follows a year later to appeal to the people who like the car but don't need the power then it's much better than the alternative of releasing a car with all the looks but no power only to get slammed in the media and lose momentum.

And no, I doubt anyone will be 100% happy with it but it's still better than just dreaming about a car that someone might produce some day.

Troy

[BigBlackDodge]

I almost have to agree with Vainglory here. When the Charger came out - even though I can't stand the looks - the underlying argument was something to the effect of "but it's so fast". So, if I get to hear about how fast it is all day then the V6 model is really a non-issue. Now, if the Challenger looks good I don't care what engine they stick in it. I think the Prowler did fairly well even with that modified blender motor they stuck in it. Mustangs sell with a V6 because of the style (and the fact that most "normal" people want basic transportation - not a race car). The Camaro will do well with a V6 I'm sure. If DCX can save a little money and build a class winning car by only having one engine option then I think it's great. If they screw it up though they don't have a lot of options. It makes sense to release the "Big Dog" first to grab all the marketing attention they can. If a V6 model follows a year later to appeal to the people who like the car but don't need the power then it's much better than the alternative of releasing a car with all the looks but no power only to get slammed in the media and lose momentum.

And no, I doubt anyone will be 100% happy with it but it's still better than just dreaming about a car that someone might produce some day.

Troy

No doubt that the first Chally's off the line will be loaded to the hilt with all the options boxes checked..............DCX makes more profit obviously from them. Lets not factor in the Dealer 'extra' mark ups that they will add to these cars when they arrive..............I can see them asking 35k or so for them. Way out my budget for a family car. Gone are the days when you can order specific things and not have a something else tied to the package, "You want a 6 speed tranny? Well the 'performance light group' has to come with that adding another $3,560.35 cents."

My '70 has a 318 and I'm perfectly happy with it, I'm secure enough in my ego to take the flak from the big block guys! DCX wants you to believe that all the e-body Challengers were barn storming hemi breathing monsters..............that of course is not true. Plenty of them came with /6's and 318's.....grocery getters for those who wanted the style but didn't care for 13 second time slips.

If they build a v-6 6 speed I'll have one.............and I'll park it proudly next to my lowly 318 Charger.


BBD

[greenpigs]

A v6 car would be the only way I could afford one, as I am not getting rid of my truck & will not pay 35K+ to own one.

[Brock Samson]

i thought i'd add this link to  www.allpar.com cause it has o do with the newly revealed Charger SuperBee with the 6.1, as they note in the tread,.. It's no where near affordable like the originals were..




http://www.allpar.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=81584

[Ponch ®]

This all may or may not be old news...

I went by the Dodge dealership yesterday (since I'm looking into buying an '06 Charger in the near future). I was talking to the salesman and I got around to asking about the Challenger. It's gonna be out next year as an '08 model and it WILL have a v6. The V6 should be priced slightly higher than the v6 Chargers. Now we all know that most of the time salesmen are talking out of their ass or are misinformed...but I tend to believe this guy because instead of trying to talk me into buying the Charger right then and there, he actually said that if I really want the Challenger I should just hold off on buying a car until they come out.

BTW - you haters will just love this. Apparently DCX has another hit on their hands, especially the v6 cars. This dealership only had R/Ts and Daytonas because the six bangers are 'selling out' everywhere. This was kinda discouraging, since this means there won't be any "all 06's must go" sales at the end of the year.... . I might have to go 'pre-owned'.

[Shakey]

This all may or may not be old news...

I went by the Dodge dealership yesterday (since I'm looking into buying an '06 Charger in the near future). I was talking to the salesman and I got around to asking about the Challenger. It's gonna be out next year as an '08 model and it WILL have a v6. The V6 should be priced slightly higher than the v6 Chargers. Now we all know that most of the time salesmen are talking out of their ass or are misinformed...but I tend to believe this guy because instead of trying to talk me into buying the Charger right then and there, he actually said that if I really want the Challenger I should just hold off on buying a car until they come out.

BTW - you haters will just love this. Apparently DCX has another hit on their hands, especially the v6 cars. This dealership only had R/Ts and Daytonas because the six bangers are 'selling out' everywhere. This was kinda discouraging, since this means there won't be any "all 06's must go" sales at the end of the year.... . I might have to go 'pre-owned'.

He probably was just saying this to get rid of you 'cause he figured you were just a tire kickin' dreamer!   

[CaptMarvel]

You superfluous capitalist pig.

I would wear that like a badge of honor, I'm so capitalist, I make oil barons look like socialists....

[Ponch ®]

This all may or may not be old news...

I went by the Dodge dealership yesterday (since I'm looking into buying an '06 Charger in the near future). I was talking to the salesman and I got around to asking about the Challenger. It's gonna be out next year as an '08 model and it WILL have a v6. The V6 should be priced slightly higher than the v6 Chargers. Now we all know that most of the time salesmen are talking out of their ass or are misinformed...but I tend to believe this guy because instead of trying to talk me into buying the Charger right then and there, he actually said that if I really want the Challenger I should just hold off on buying a car until they come out.

BTW - you haters will just love this. Apparently DCX has another hit on their hands, especially the v6 cars. This dealership only had R/Ts and Daytonas because the six bangers are 'selling out' everywhere. This was kinda discouraging, since this means there won't be any "all 06's must go" sales at the end of the year.... . I might have to go 'pre-owned'.

He probably was just saying this to get rid of you 'cause he figured you were just a tire kickin' dreamer!   

lol...that's not entirely untrue. Though I was just 'doing my homework', if they'd had a car I really wanted and they'd given me the right deal, I would have bought it.

[dodge freak]

Well there always 2007 's to buy, yes the price might be higher at first but then the rebates will come on just like all the other years.

I would wait for the Challenger, thats going to be the car people will want. Sounds like it be spring  or summer 2007 , Good Luck

[Ponch ®]

Well there always 2007 's to buy, yes the price might be higher at first but then the rebates will come on just like all the other years.

I would wait for the Challenger, thats going to be the car people will want. Sounds like it be spring  or summer 2007 , Good Luck

that salesman really got me thinking. I really don't need a new car right now - i guess i'm just fed up and tired of my current car. So I'm kinda torn on the issue - I can wait a year, but then who knows if ill even be able to afford a Chally, with dealer markups and whatnot.

On the other hand, my car already has 110K+ miles on it...in another year it might die (it is a chevy, after all) or the trade-in/sale value will be ridiculously low. Maybe I should go ahead and buy the Charger, then wait 2-3 years and trade it in for a 'pre-owned' chally. I might even be able to afford one with a Hemi by then.

[dodge freak]

Oh you have a trade in ? Well we waited till our buick had over a 180,000 miles on it not sure how much it stop lighting up after 155,000 and we got $1000 for it ! But it ran good and look great just had to turn the headlights on for the rad fan to come on, ha ha. I wired a relay in to turn it on, one of the fans shorted out and there was no power going to it. Change all 3 relays and the fuses were fine so the heck with drop a bunch of money in it I just rigged it up for $20.

Yeah that Challenger won't be cheap I bet, its your money. I would not buy it but I am not you. The time to buy one is right now before the 2006 are all gone. When we got our new buick the one we wanted was 200 miles away. The dealer went and pick it up for us , just took a few days. Still is a new car and if YOU like it then get it.

[THE COLONEL]

A guy I work with, said that Chrysler announced the color options for the Chally.  I searched the internet, and found nothing.  Has anyone else heard of this?

[Brock Samson]

says here $30K for the chally,...
i
http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/top/ask-dr-z-about-the-fine-print-sweepstakes-rules-leak-dodge-challenger-rt-approximate-retail-value-of-30000-194624.php

[Mike DC]

 
I would like to see V6's and V8's in both the Chargers & Challengers. 

I'd also to see a few minor visual cues that tip-off a V8 model from the rest (like a small hood bulge, some badges, a stripe somewhere, etc).
And the factory should NOT water the cars' image down by putting these things on V6 cars even as extra-cost options. 

I've got nothing against stylish options for the V6 cars, but if a V6 owner wants to build a true "V8 clone" then they should have to go to the dealership parts department and do it themselves.

       

[Lightning]

 
I would like to see V6's and V8's in both the Chargers & Challengers. 

I'd also to see a few minor visual cues that tip-off a V8 model from the rest (like a small hood bulge, some badges, a stripe somewhere, etc).
And the factory should NOT water the cars' image down by putting these things on V6 cars even as extra-cost options. 

I've got nothing against stylish options for the V6 cars, but if a V6 owner wants to build a true "V8 clone" then they should have to go to the dealership parts department and do it themselves.

       

Most people are too lazy to do so these days, and often times they see what a "bargain" it is to make them into a v8 clone than if they got the parts themselves.

[dodge freak]

Its more than being "lazy" the dealer parts are so much $ its not worth doing. I would think it be like the Charger , one exhaust pipe for V6 's and duel's pipes for V8 's, might be a few more but thats the best way for me to tell.