The End of the SRT-10?

[Lowprofile]

I was just roaming around the web today, and found this news...........


http://www.planetsrt.com

Could this be one of the first victims of the high gas prices? or low sales? or making room for the new Challenger?

I would love to have one of these trucks. Someday........

[dodge freak]

Now thats the motor for a old charger car if somebody wants a new high tech motor. Should fit also. Still think it would not be easy or cheap but if it was done right, look out.

[bull]

It's a two-door and two-doors don't sell. Without reading your link I suspect the reason for its demise, if that's what's happening, is that there's no competition. Ford dropped the Lightning as soon as they discovered that the SRT10 could kick its butt all over the track so it's kind of a super niche market right now. That said, I don't know why they have to drop it entirely since there's so few of them made and the platform isn't specialized. As far as I know it's just a single cab Ram pickup with a V-10, a body kit and a fancy interior. There's probably some suspension upgrades too though.

[gtx6970]

SRT10 has sales ?

Where , Not around here. I've heard of several dealers willing to sell below cost to just move them off the floor, We've got a NEW 2004 sitting on the used car side of the lot and STILL can't get anyone to bite

[Charger1970]

I was seriously looking at an '04 SRT 10 with 4,000 miles. It was like new. They were asking $35,000. The dealbreaker was the gas mileage (13 MPG highway) and it also burns premium fuel.

I ended up buying my '05 Ram Daytona.

I wouldn't say you see Ram SRT's OFTEN around Atlanta but I have seen quite a few. Sad to see them ending production.

[andy74]

my former employer has a new srt10 with 200 miles,still on mso-he keeps trying to get 38 grand,but when we brought it to the auction it did 27500,frigging thing is fast but a gas hog and super costly-sticker is like 48300!

[topduarte]

It's a two-door and two-doors don't sell. Without reading your link I suspect the reason for its demise, if that's what's happening, is that there's no competition. Ford dropped the Lightning as soon as they discovered that the SRT10 could kick its butt all over the track so it's kind of a super niche market right now. That said, I don't know why they have to drop it entirely since there's so few of them made and the platform isn't specialized. As far as I know it's just a single cab Ram pickup with a V-10, a body kit and a fancy interior. There's probably some suspension upgrades too though.

There is also a 4-door version of the SRT-10.  They did not have one two years ago when I was looking a four a quad cab pickup!!

[Old Moparz]

Speaking from a tight wad point of view, the price is the biggest problem. What is it about the SRT/10 that justifies a sticker price that's roughly double of what you can buy a Hemi Dodge truck for? I understand a higher price for a limited production vehicle, but that's just, well.......forget it, I won't say it.   

[Charger_Fan]

Speaking from a tight wad point of view, the price is the biggest problem. What is it about the SRT/10 that justifies a sticker price that's roughly double of what you can buy a Hemi Dodge truck for? I understand a higher price for a limited production vehicle, but that's just, well.......forget it, I won't say it.   

That's the same with HEMI cars back in the day too, wasn't the price tag on a HEMI about another third on top of the standard car price?
I know the ZL1 Cramaro's & Vette's were a little more than double, just for the engine. But of course, a ZL1 wasn't very streetable either.

I hear what you're saying though, this Viper engine isn't worth that big a difference.

[Lowprofile]

Its a shame DCX didn't just make it an option instead of its own model.  I will have one............someday.

[PocketThunder]

So are these trucks gonna be like the aero cars that sat on dealer lots for years and then 30 years later they will be highly sought after?

[andy74]

So are these trucks gonna be like the aero cars that sat on dealer lots for years and then 30 years later they will be highly sought after?

could very well be,but the wing cars are still cool,and srt10s are still trucks

[Ponch ®]

So are these trucks gonna be like the aero cars that sat on dealer lots for years and then 30 years later they will be highly sought after?

could very well be,but the wing cars are still cool,and srt10s are still trucks

considering that in 30 years we'll all be driving around in Smart cars, PT might be making a valid point.

[bull]

I tend to agree. Everything that's been said about the SRT10 so far sounds like a description of what happened with the '60s and '70s muscle cars, especially the aero cars. Hard to say for sure, and it's a helluva gamble to take with the prices they're asking. My money is on the Prowler for good resale at this point. But who knows.

[Ponch ®]

I tend to agree. Everything that's been said about the SRT10 so far sounds like a description of what happened with the '60s and '70s muscle cars, especially the aero cars. Hard to say for sure, and it's a helluva gamble to take with the prices they're asking. My money is on the Prowler for good resale at this point. But who knows.

some pre-2003 vipers (esp GTS coupes) are holding up their value. They still sell in the $60-70's.

Another line of cars to keep an eye on are early-mid 80's camaros(IROCS and Z28's) and firebirds (Trans ams). With a lot of the 60-70's muscle cars becoming unattainable, these cars are starting to become very appealing to some people.

[694spdRT]

Not to justify the cost but there is more to the SRT10 than just the Viper V10. The tranny is from the Viper, the brakes, suspension, wheels, tires, etc. are different. Plus, that Hurst shifter must be worth 5K alone.  

IMO, the trucks with an overpriced window sticker for what you get is the Rumble Bee and the Daytona. Fortunately, they have the rebates and most dealers have heavily discounted them so they do sell.

[dodge freak]

But GM is going to be making brand new Camaro's in 2-3 years. I don't see what so special about the 80's -90's cars. The 60's very early 70's came with big strong motors and chrome bumpers and trim. The 80's and 90's have cheap chrome and plastic mirrors , grills. Many cars that are brand new today are nicer, so nobody is pay more than the cost of a new car $20,000 -$30,000, if that. Who's to say that 10-20 years from now the brand new car's and truck's will not be even nicer, faster and ride better ? The gas milage requirements are not changing yet for car's , and technology keeps getting better. Just cause some of the old cars went  up does not mean any cars from the 80's ,90's and 2000's will also.

Most often the things that will go up in value are what nobody thinks of, remember back in 1974-75 some cars that are worth $100,000 were selling for $3000-$4000 dollars as the gas was hard to get and people were dumping the gas hogs.

DCX is dropping the SRT-10 cause the gas milage requirements are going up for truck's so it is a maybe, a big maybe. Yes in 10 -20 years it could be worth a whole lot more than it is today but I would not bet the house on it.

[Silver R/T]

seriously who needs a viper powered truck, especially with high prices nowadays. it might be fun truck to kick some ricers on the street (ha ha a truck smoking some ricers) but in reality no construction company would need fancy truck like that

[Shakey]

seriously who needs a viper powered truck, especially with high prices nowadays. it might be fun truck to kick some ricers on the street (ha ha a truck smoking some ricers) but in reality no construction company would need fancy truck like that

Actually Silver, when a construction company bids on a project, they not only bid on price but they gurantee to get the job done in a certain timeline.

This truck would be a perfect vehicle for a construction company as they would be able to haul the lumber and drywall very quickly from the Home Depot to the job site.   

[Ponch ®]

seriously who needs a viper powered truck, especially with high prices nowadays. it might be fun truck to kick some ricers on the street (ha ha a truck smoking some ricers) but in reality no construction company would need fancy truck like that

Actually Silver, when a construction company bids on a project, they not only bid on price but they gurantee to get the job done in a certain timeline.

This truck would be a perfect vehicle for a construction company as they would be able to haul the lumber and drywall very quickly from the Home Depot to the job site.   

[RT DAVE]

Now thats the motor for a old charger car if somebody wants a new high tech motor. Should fit also. Still think it would not be easy or cheap but if it was done right, look out.

It's been done already and I don't believe it fit very well.  I think they had to move the firewall.  Read the story to be sure.   

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0205phr_1968_dodge_charger/

[Ponch ®]

Now thats the motor for a old charger car if somebody wants a new high tech motor. Should fit also. Still think it would not be easy or cheap but if it was done right, look out.

It's been done already and I don't believe it fit very well.  I think they had to move the firewall.  Read the story to be sure.   

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0205phr_1968_dodge_charger/

its also been done on a Daytona clone.

[dodge freak]

Wow thats more work than I ever could do-was thinking that the rad. might just have to move up front a little bit. Oh well another idea up in smoke-I bet it is a nice car once you spend  the $50,000 or so.

[RT DAVE]

I hate to sound like a broken record, but I think the V10 will be gone now that the 6.4L 392 hemi is on it's way.  I'd say more, but I've already posted about it ad nauseum...   

[694spdRT]

Expect a Hemi Viper or no Viper at all?

[RT DAVE]

Expect a Hemi Viper or no Viper at all?

6.4L 550-600 HP HEMI VIPER...

Just a guess, but they have this motor in some drift cars for testing.   Prices have been tentatively set for crate motors also.   I hear they're sick of the Z06 already and they aren't going to mess around anymore with the v10...

[PocketThunder]

Expect a Hemi Viper or no Viper at all?

6.4L 550-600 HP HEMI VIPER...

Just a guess, but they have this motor in some drift cars for testing.   Prices have been tentatively set for crate motors also.   I hear they're sick of the Z06 already and they aren't going to mess around anymore with the v10...

Has the Z06 been cleaning up Vipers on the tracks?  I dont follow that at all but now i'm curious.

[dodge freak]

Cool but 6.4 still is a little small but is a whole lot better than 5.7, whats a 440 stoker something like 8.2 ?

[RT DAVE]

Expect a Hemi Viper or no Viper at all?

6.4L 550-600 HP HEMI VIPER...

Just a guess, but they have this motor in some drift cars for testing.   Prices have been tentatively set for crate motors also.   I hear they're sick of the Z06 already and they aren't going to mess around anymore with the v10...

Has the Z06 been cleaning up Vipers on the tracks?  I dont follow that at all but now i'm curious.

Stock for stock, the Z06 is about 1/2 second quicker in the 1/4 and will be pulling away from the VIPER after that.   I'm unsure of how they are doing competitively, but I believe the vette is superior there as well...

[694spdRT]

That must be the new 7.0L Z06 that is beating the Viper right?

[Charger_Fan]

Plus, that Hurst shifter must be worth 5K alone.  

I thought for sure you were gonna say the big red starter button on the dash.

[Lowprofile]

I just think its one of the coolest things to come out of DCX/Mopar Performance in a long time. I'm sorry to see it go. I hope to one day own one. But for now, it will have to wait. Being out on the road working most of the year, it just dosen't make sense to spend a ton of cash on something I won't be able to drive right now. 

Besides, I kinda like the "Redneck Viper", as my Wife calls it. It was made for fat-asses like me who can't fit in a Viper or a Vette'. 

[dodge freak]

Well for a truck it is kind of cool , it would be so great if more trucks and SUV's on the road were like the STR-10, not just a gas hog thats is slow, but a gas hog thats fast also, thats what a real gas hog is. Well nobody can't say that Chrysler did not try, the price is a big turn off I think not the milage.

[RT DAVE]

That must be the new 7.0L Z06 that is beating the Viper right?

Yes, the new one.  The old one couldn't touch the Viper.   

[MichaelRW]

I've actually entertained the idea of selling my Charger and getting the new Z06. Then I think about depreciation. 

[greenpigs]

So are these trucks gonna be like the aero cars that sat on dealer lots for years and then 30 years later they will be highly sought after?

I doubt it.

[RT DAVE]

I just recently read something about them reworking the v10 to make 650 hp, so maybe I'm wrong about a hemi-viper.   We'll have to wait and see.   

[89MOPAR]

Has the Z06 been cleaning up Vipers on the tracks?  I dont follow that at all but now i'm curious.

Actually No, thet race against each other in the Speed GT world challenge where they are about equal in lap times , but the Viper has about a 30% restrictor on the intake and carries an extra 200 lbs to try and even the field. [ They try to base a formula for each manufacturer to make for closer racing]

Part of the problem is - very low payload capacity, and with the extensive rework of the suspension to make it handle...cannot get one with a tow package.  I considered getting one but the tow package was the deal breaker for me. Because I would have traded in my '03 Ram 1500 4x4 Hemi in on one.  But so far the '03 1500 does everything I ask, is plenty fast, and reliable.

[PeteBratt]

Altough somewhat off topic, for the next viper coming out, they are removing the steeel (I think thats what it is) sleeves in the v10 now and putting a titanium coating instead.  Suppose to be 600 horse.  Here in Windsor (Canadas motor city) we have several engineers and the like who get a few details.

Pete

[Brock Samson]

over at allpar...
they're sayin the next viper is gonna be modular so they can do the firepower too with it's  hemi and even a mid engine, though details on that last bit seem a bit scetchy I think the Firepower will become a reality.
But, who knows?.. I've been disapointed alot by DCX since '99... 
everythings' two years late, two hundred Lbs. overweight, has two too many doors.. and is ugly. 


here's a link to allpars' news and rumors thread, something to do with DCX in Videos... but half way down a Mr. Wheatking provides the Tip...

http://www.allpar.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=82099&st=0