rear sway bar mounted but...

[Nacho-RT74]

Hi buddies... after some years having a NOS rear sway bar, and finally the right plates at my hands tonight I installed it BUT:

I don't know but it looks some weird. The bar rods are very angled against the plates, not 90º or close. In fact was very hard to install.

My thought are that I have a wrong sway bar or my springs are very arched, getting higher the rear end than it should be. Springs are made in here in Venezuela and they are around 5 years old mounted on my car.

I would like to know the measurement of the sway bars and rods you have on your cars 73/74 owners ( even 71/72 ) to discard any wrong part on my assembly.

How many sway bars it does exist ? I know E bodies, B bodies are different each one from the rest. My haynes manual shows another assembly they specify EXCEPT E AND B BODIES... but I'm not sure if maybe some oother Mopar uses same design B body sway bar but differet sizes.

Attached mesurement I would like to get. Also the rod lenght

[dustyswinger]

Nacho, I can look tomorrow at the 2 that I have. They seem to be the same but I haven't looked close at them. I mounted one on my charger and it fit perfectly. I had to remake the links and I made them the same lenght as the originals. The point where the link mounts on the plates are not parallel with the springs they are more like 45 degrees. Do you have the right plates? Maybe your springs are too high and the links are too short. Did you have the holes in your frame drilled out from the factory? The one I put on my 72 was from a 73 and it fit fine after I modified the big hole for the rear end locator to be a small one. I will get you measurements tomorrow. Craig

[Nacho-RT74]

Sway bar plates were located by a 3rd gen buddy up there and yes they look to be the right ones even I forgott to check the PN casted on it. Sure they are the ones to isolated springs clamps. I'll post the pic of the ones I got.

Frame holes are the stock ones.

[Nacho-RT74]

here is the pic of the plates I got, and a draw I made ( more less ) about the angle between rod and plate. Is more than 90º

It looks I would need a shorter rod and longer sway bar OR... maybe bend a little the plate ? who the hell knows.

Plates look untouched beside the rust removed and primed.

[dustyswinger]

Nacho, As to your first picture the measurement is 9 inches. The rod lenght is just under 3 inches from the washer to the flat part of the clamp on the bar end. Your plates look exactly like the ones I took off the 73 I got the sway bar from.  Hope this helps. Craig.

[Nacho-RT74]

OK, I'll take mesurements and update.
Thanks Craig!!!

[RD]

snacho,
   my rear sway bar on my 73 RR was not angled like your sway bar is.  If you want, I installed my sway bar already and can take pics and send them to you.

Jamey

[Nacho-RT74]

Great thanks Jamey... I think the problem is more related with arched springs. I think my car is higher on back that your cars. That's the problem with made in Venezuela stuff, good quality materials, but not as originals specs.

I still haven't get measurements of mine. I'll do today

[RD]

I have the sway bar mounted to HD springs if that matters.  does it?

Jamey

[Nacho-RT74]

No that doesn't really matters as far I know... Arch is related with height. HD is related with hardened suspension to high performance, extra rear load and engine torque. Is like have station wagons springs with extra blades

[chgr500]

Hello,  I am also trying to mount a rear sway bar on a 71 Charger.  I have the same brackets as the ones pictured previously and I see the 71 brackets have the u bolt holes closer towards the spring.  I am going to elongate these holes a little and use these brackets.  When a did a mock set up with the all the parts in the proper positions I see my sway bar hangs well below the rear diff.  Seems rather low to me,  but I have never seen what one should look like.  Not too many rear bars on these b bodys.  The bar is only like 8" off the pavement.  I'm wondering if I may have the wrong length links also. Thanks for any input

[RD]

Hello,  I am also trying to mount a rear sway bar on a 71 Charger.  I have the same brackets as the ones pictured previously and I see the 71 brackets have the u bolt holes closer towards the spring.  I am going to elongate these holes a little and use these brackets.  When a did a mock set up with the all the parts in the proper positions I see my sway bar hangs well below the rear diff.  Seems rather low to me,  but I have never seen what one should look like.  Not too many rear bars on these b bodys.  The bar is only like 8" off the pavement.  I'm wondering if I may have the wrong length links also. Thanks for any input

i will take pics of mine today and post them on here so you can see.

[Nacho-RT74]

Hello,  I am also trying to mount a rear sway bar on a 71 Charger.  I have the same brackets as the ones pictured previously and I see the 71 brackets have the u bolt holes closer towards the spring.  I am going to elongate these holes a little and use these brackets.  When a did a mock set up with the all the parts in the proper positions I see my sway bar hangs well below the rear diff.  Seems rather low to me,  but I have never seen what one should look like.  Not too many rear bars on these b bodys.  The bar is only like 8" off the pavement.  I'm wondering if I may have the wrong length links also. Thanks for any input

the plates I posted pic are not the right ones to 71/72, unless you add isolated sprig clamps. and open the center hole on axle pedestal to make it fit

Those plates are for those who has this assembly between axle and springs ( 1st pic ).

and looks mounted as pictured on 2nd pic.

Thee you need the 3rd pic piece.

To make it fit like the 4th pic

one more detail... 71/72 sway bars are completelly straight pieces, for a while 73/74 are bended in the middle to save from hit the differential center body. That's because 73/74 bars sits closer to axle because the clamps. Isolated assembly axle pedestal are a little bit shorter to keep same rear height than earliers because the added clamps.

[Nacho-RT74]

BTW...

WELCOMEEEEE!!!!

[chgr500]

Thanks for your information.  The parts manual certainly has a poor picture and no part numbers.  Appears as I may have purchased a 73-4 style brackets with a 71-2 bar and links.  Back to looking for parts.  Thanks again

[dustyswinger]

Chgr500, I made those same ones work on my 72 by welding a washer in the big hole and moving the u bolt holes closer to the center. Craig

[chgr500]

I was thinking of modifying these bracket by elongating the u bolt holes towards the centre.  The plate will sit flat on the spring and would bring the link mount holes towards the centre.  When I did a mock setup on the car I found the bar to sit awfully low.  Maybe the links are also a different length due to the isolator.  The isolator would make the perches sit 3-4" higher compared to being mounted directly on top of the spring.  I appear to have a 71-2 bar as it is a straight bar.  Does anyone know if there are different length links between the two styles?  I also have noticed there are some brackets for a 71-2 that have a large centre hole like the ones previously posted but the u bolt holes are closer to the spring.  They are from newer production cars from 75-9  and appear the same.  Very similar looking with the exception of the centre hole being larger than the 71-2 picture poster earlier.

[chgr500]

Does it hang this low?

[RD]

looks about right from my eyes

[Nacho-RT74]

it looks good from the distance. Yes is a 71/72 Bar.

BTW Jamey, it looks the links and isolators are SITTING better on plates, but pics is allways helpfull. I'l try to take a pic of my assembly too.

chgr500 This is amazing, some time ago I got 71/72 plates, and when I "modif¡ed" them to try to fit on my assembly, noticed was imposible, or did need at least LOTS MORE of job I did. So thanks to a buddy here I found the right plates and was able to install the bar.

So you have 73/74 plates and need 71/72. I have/had 71/72 plates and did need 73/74.

[chgr500]

When I took my pictures I had the perches in between the spring with just the outer u bolt clamping it down.  The frame rails have dimples in them for oem mounting so I know thing were basically in the right positions.  The links are a Little closer to the corners than originally.  May be the proper parts would bring this a little closer to centre,  but should be OK.  Thing sure sits low though.  Your bar hangs well below the diff as well?  Still like to shot of your sway bar.
As to trying to modify my sway bar mounts to your style with the isolator I can see that it would be nearly impossible.  Those perches are mold fitted to the isolators.  At least I have a flat spring surface to work with.
This was my most recent eBay purchase.  $200us at opening bid.  I think it still a fair deal and now I have parts to work with.  The links and bushing are decent.  Not rusted junk parts.
Your pictures clarified exactly the differences between the the two versions of 3RD gen Chargers.  Thanks for that help and you never know maybe I can find the proper set now than I know what I'm looking for.
That is some wicked restore you did on your Charger WOW
Ron

[RD]

i will take pics of mine tonight then and post them here

[Nacho-RT74]

As to trying to modify my sway bar mounts to your style with the isolator I can see that it would be nearly impossible.  Those perches are mold fitted to the isolators.  At least I have a flat spring surface to work with.

I tried, just welding spacers... and ALLMOST worked. Look at pic. The problem really was finally the side casted bended edge to reinforce the plate was too hight and hit the axle... about the rest I made it work. Enlarged center hole and U bolts holes.

These pics are the same plate I posted earlier

[chgr500]

Here's another version of plates off eBay.  75-79 version.  Part # l/s 3722945 r/s3845510
These look to be the same closer u bolt pattern as a 71-2

[d72hemi]

Nacho,

I just came accross a 77 charger with a Rear sway bar and what looks like a dana 60??? Maybe it got transplanted from a 71/72 charger? I will go back tomorrow to take some pics. Let me know if you need any particular pics, or parts. If you need any parts I can get them for you for cost + accual shipping if I pull the rear for myself. let me know.

Ian