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Are 440 oil pans different sizes between C and B bodies?

Started by PocketThunder, July 27, 2006, 10:16:55 AM

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PocketThunder

My 69 New Yorker 440 donor engine's oil pan is hitting the centerlink of my suspension in my 68 Charger.  I can almost slide a piece of paper between the two.  Ron (Firefighter) said that the centerlinks are all the same for 318 and 440 Chargers, but that the oil pan might be different..  Anyone?
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Blown70

Ones I have run into were different from B to C.

Tom

PocketThunder

got the answer.  Mods delete this please....

thanks Ron.
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firefighter3931

You're welcome Paul. Just a suggestion ; don't trash the 187 pan and pickup....they are valuable to guys that are dropping BB motors into a-bodies. You can probably sell it for some $ to someone looking to do that conversion.  ;)


Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

Just 6T9 CHGR

I had the 187 pan on my old 440 with no clearance issues.....
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


PocketThunder

Quote from: Just 6T9_CHGR.... on July 27, 2006, 03:26:21 PM
I had the 187 pan on my old 440 with no clearance issues.....

How tight was it?  was your 440 out of a C body?
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Blown70

Quote from: PocketThunder on July 27, 2006, 03:34:59 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9_CHGR.... on July 27, 2006, 03:26:21 PM
I had the 187 pan on my old 440 with no clearance issues.....

How tight was it?  was your 440 out of a C body?

Paul I had a 187 on a 440 in my charger when purchased. it was touching the pan.... it worked but I did not like how tight is was

Tom

Blown70

the correct pan is what a 402? 406?  Good lord I am too young to lose my mind. :rotz:

tan top

i have a c-body  (971) oil pan with no clearance problems.
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PocketThunder

402 is the stock Big Block pan for a B-body.              my lesson for the day :icon_smile_big:
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8WHEELER

Quote from: Blown70 on July 27, 2006, 03:44:35 PM
the correct pan is what a 402? 406?  Good lord I am too young to lose my mind. :rotz:

The 402 pan, was the HP pan that was baffled as well.

The engine in my car now, I took out of a 70 Fury 440 car 27yrs ago. That pan fit fine in my charger. Infact one
time I lost oil pressure, took the pan out of the car without lifting the engine, because there were no baffles in
the no HP pan.

Dan
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Just 6T9 CHGR

Quote from: PocketThunder on July 27, 2006, 03:34:59 PM
Quote from: Just 6T9_CHGR.... on July 27, 2006, 03:26:21 PM
I had the 187 pan on my old 440 with no clearance issues.....

How tight was it? was your 440 out of a C body?

I believe it was out of a '77 Newport.  It had the knotched "187" pan and clearance really wasnt an issue.

I found 1 old pic of when I first got the car.....ran it that way for 5+ years with no problems.

Pic below it is my nicey nice Hemi pan (Thanks Mr. Shaugnessy :thumbs: )
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


TylerCharger69

Quote from: 8WHEELER on July 27, 2006, 04:18:36 PM
Quote from: Blown70 on July 27, 2006, 03:44:35 PM
the correct pan is what a 402? 406?  Good lord I am too young to lose my mind. :rotz:

The 402 pan, was the HP pan that was baffled as well.

The engine in my car now, I took out of a 70 Fury 440 car 27yrs ago. That pan fit fine in my charger. Infact one
time I lost oil pressure, took the pan out of the car without lifting the engine, because there were no baffles in
the no HP pan.

Dan

I have a 383  Non-HP   and it has a 402 pan on it.....I'm pretty sure it's original because the car was never touched  engine wise   when I bought it.   Is that strange?   Or   is that normal?

8WHEELER

The general rule is, you got the 402 baffled pan on HP engines 383 440, I have not seen a 402 pan
on a 68 or 69 'non' HP engine yet.

Dan
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TylerCharger69

well...that's why i was asking....it has a "402"  stamped very clearly on the oil pan itself..Maybe the manufacturer ran out of the other kind during assembly???   And...it is a baffled pan by the way

73chargers4404

witch pan do you need for a 73 charger 440 ,summit only list one pan for a 440,is the pan sump  in a different spot.thanks

firefighter3931

Quote from: 73chargers4404 on July 30, 2006, 10:02:59 PM
witch pan do you need for a 73 charger 440 ,summit only list one pan for a 440,is the pan sump  in a different spot.thanks

Here are a couple of options. I prefer the reproduction hemi pan for the added capacity and baffleing....well worth the extra few $   ;)

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=DCC%2D5249064&N=700+115&autoview=sku

http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/streethemoil.html


Ron


Ps. If you order the hemi pan from Mancini, make sure to specify the 3/8in pickup....unless your block has been modified for the 1/2in PU.
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Nacho-RT74

I think it coould be some difference clearence with manual steering box and powered steering box because the length of pitman and iddle arms and also size of center link ?

???
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