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727 rebuild

Started by Silver R/T, July 21, 2005, 01:43:22 AM

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Silver R/T

I need my 727 rebuilt and need it to handle at least 500hp, what should i buy, which kit etc.
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1968 silver/black/red striped R/T
My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722

Ghoste

Are you doing it yourself or sending the parts on to someone else?

Silver R/T

shop will do it for me, never rebuilt trans myself
http://www.cardomain.com/id/mitmaks

1968 silver/black/red striped R/T
My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722

Plumcrazy

Quote from: Silver R/T on July 21, 2005, 01:48:17 AM
shop will do it for me, never rebuilt trans myself

I would tell them you need it to handle 500 hp and let them decide.
Then if there's a problem they can't come back on you and say we used what you told us to use, it'll  be their problem.

It's not a midlife crisis, it's my second adolescence.

RD

a stock rebuild with stock components will handle a 500hp motor, i know.  the only thing i would get for yours would be a bolt-in sprag and roller set and a shift kit.  that is unless if you want a MVB or sumpin.  You do not need to go crazy, cuz that is when it starts getting expensive!  But if you want expensive, let me know and I will get some part numbers and prices for you.
67 Plymouth Barracuda, 69 Plymouth Barracuda, 73 Charger SE, 75 D100, 80 Sno-Commander

Ghoste

Depending where you are, you may also want to consider a letting a place like Cope or A&A rebuild it for you.  A&A can do a high quality street/strip rebuild for not much more than a standard shop will charge and Mopar is all they do.

8WHEELER

Rebuilt my trans in 1980 to stock specks, a year later put in a B&M shift kit I run 12.5 to 1 pistons 915 ported heads 484 284 mopar cam balanced on and on to this day it still grabs rubber at 1/2 throttle into second gear, I would put a stall converter in that as well a 2400 is what I run been in there since 80 these trans are the best.

Dan
74 Dart Sport 360, just for added fun.

Crazy440

John Cope puts together killers trannys.   Here's his site.   He's great to work with.

http://www.coperacingtrans.com/727.htm
I used to have a handle on life....but it broke off.

Silver R/T

thanks for help/llinks guys
http://www.cardomain.com/id/mitmaks

1968 silver/black/red striped R/T
My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722

andy74

 i just had my 727 re built,the 15 year old torque convertor failed,taking the tranny with it! i used a mopar converter(factory hi stall-about 1800),and the tranny guy put in new clutches,plates and all the hardware,no shift kit yet,but did replace the valve body with a new one,and am happy as hell!

Silver R/T

did you use synthetic trans fluid? does it chirp tires now :)
http://www.cardomain.com/id/mitmaks

1968 silver/black/red striped R/T
My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722

andy74

i used the b and m trick shift fluid,and it does grab second pretty hard,but i am still going to have a shift kit put in,one part of the car i wont even try to dig into is the tranny,!

RECHRGD

Silver,  I just had Bekkerings on North Division do mine.  They're good mopar guys and stand behind they're work.  The Owners have been building and racing mopars since the '60's.  There's also Circle D Transmission in Colville.  Norm Merkel (killer '69 Charger) owns it and he worked at Bekkerings for years.   Bob
13.53 @ 105.32

Ghoste

I like trans work.  It's clean and there aren't a whole lot of things that can go wrong.  Just amke sure everything is crystal clean and to spec.

Silver R/T

Quote from: RECHRGD on July 23, 2005, 09:46:00 AM
Silver, I just had Bekkerings on North Division do mine. They're good mopar guys and stand behind they're work. The Owners have been building and racing mopars since the '60's. There's also Circle D Transmission in Colville. Norm Merkel (killer '69 Charger) owns it and he worked at Bekkerings for years. Bob

how much $$ was it?
http://www.cardomain.com/id/mitmaks

1968 silver/black/red striped R/T
My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722

RECHRGD

You'll save money if you take the tranny out yourself.  Because of lack of time and convenience I had them take it out and re-install it in the car.  The total labor including the rebuild came to 420.00.  Most of my parts were still OK.  They replaced the torque converter (120.00), flexplate (7.14), Overhaul kit (42.46), ATF (28.80), Used pump body (20.00), Rear band (30.00), Misc. (7.20).  Very reasonable, but not any Fancy convertor or flex plate.  I already had a TransGo shift kit in there.  In stock form these 727's will take alot of power.  If your still looking for 500 RRHP then take the advise of the experts there and most likely increase your budget.  Bob
13.53 @ 105.32

Silver R/T

hmm thats cheap I know FastbackJon recommended me a place on E Sprague "bills transmissions" I think and cost is $600-$650 stock rebuild. they did his rebuilds in one day. Ill need shift kit put in, synthetic fluid, also my kickdown linkage will need to be hooked up. that shop is called Bekkerings? Ill look it up in yellow pages.
http://www.cardomain.com/id/mitmaks

1968 silver/black/red striped R/T
My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722

jackel440

like crazy said john cope is the man to get a tranny done right.
good guy and knows his stuff.

Ghoste

Rick Allison at A&A is no slouch either.

Silver R/T

Quote from: Ghoste on July 24, 2005, 12:30:12 AM
Rick Allison at A&A is no slouch either.
is this local in spokane?
http://www.cardomain.com/id/mitmaks

1968 silver/black/red striped R/T
My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722

FastbackJon

I took my '67 Charger in to Bekkerings on N. Division for an alignment/front end check because they offered free inspections. I don't remember the name of the guy I talked to but even though I made an appointment, I had to leave the car with them for a few hours because they coudln't get it in. Anyhow, I noticed the alternator gauge acting up as I drove it in and I asked if they could check that out too.

Well I check back in (after walking over to Walmart and back to kill time reading magazines), and my car is nowhere in sight. I check back outside and I see him pulling it into the parking space. I ask what's wrong and he tells me a list of things wrong with the front end to my face and tells me the labor bill for checking it out, the electrical, a 1/2 hour charge. I was suprised since NAPA, and Shucks, and many other places offer free electrical checks, not to mention he didn't give me an estimate or tell me before hand that it was going to cost me. So I tell him this and he lets me take the car, but I ask for a list of things that need to be done with the trans and an estimate first, but he says he needs to get it all put together an he'll call me.

So I wait and get a call and this time he just tells me a total for the repairs, but not what's wrong with it. Like he's skirting giving me a written estimate or telling me what's wrong with the front end.

I didn't like that service. Just my opinion.
"This was the dedication of the altar, in the day when it was anointed, by the princes of Israel: twelve chargers of silver, twelve silver bowls, twelve spoons of gold..." -- Numbers 7:84 KJV




Ghoste

No A&A is in Indiana.  I thought Cope was on the east coast?

d72hemi

Quote from: Ghoste on July 23, 2005, 12:17:34 PM
I like trans work.   It's clean and there aren't a whole lot of things that can go wrong.   Just amke sure everything is crystal clean and to spec.

since you do your own, what tools are need,   what manual(s) should I use(are there any electronic/downloadable copies out there   ;D ), what would you you recomend for someone that wants to learn how to work on trannies? I have worked on every part of a car so fare, exept the tranny and rear-end.

Ian

Silver R/T

thanks for advice, anyways its people that make business not people that LEFT that business. Maybe they left for a reason, cause they couldnt stand asses that they had to work with on daily basis. Im shopping for shift kit now and trans fluid
http://www.cardomain.com/id/mitmaks

1968 silver/black/red striped R/T
My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722

Silver R/T

http://www.cardomain.com/id/mitmaks

1968 silver/black/red striped R/T
My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722