WARNING E-BAY JUNK

[bsakal]

They also advertise on collectorcartraderonline.com 

[BLACKWOLF]

SOUNDS LIKE A BUNCH OF ASSHOLES TO ME. I ONLY BUY FROM PEOPLE I KNOW { DODGECHARGER.COM MEMBERS}
OR LOCAL GUYS.

[AirborneSilva]

While I didn't pay anywhere near $20,000 for the Rusted/Trash I got from them I did get screwed none the less.  They did describe the trunk as having been cut out and ready to a new one to be put in, yeah right, it rusted out along with the rest of the trunk area and frame rails!  They are quite accomplished at hiding other damage as well.  They painted my car primer black and took pictures of it in not the best of lighting and although you could make out some rust damage like over the rear wheel wells, they did a good job of hiding the rusted out front fenders, floor pans and a few other areas as well.  They failed to mention those things, which in my book is a lie by omission.  It has just been a VERY poor experience all the way around and I will NEVER buy anything from anyone who feels the need to hide their feed back for whatever reason!

[262chargers]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=003&item=130010056831&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

[Rack]

funny thing about this feedback stuff...i bought my charger on ebay, i had seen the hlpag cars and gladd i didnt buy one (didnt know bout there history then either). but there feedback #s were not terrible at the time. i just realised it was a "dealer" and thought they were getting a bit greedy. but i DID buy my charger from a KID with 0 feedback, the pics of the car werent very good, he couldnt tell me if it had disk brakes, or an 8.75 , or a sway bar. as a result it sold for a grand. and i drove a solid charger with disks, sway bar, and an 8.75 on my trailer smiling all the way. it didnt run well, but it did run , drive steer and stop. Ebay isnt always bad, over a year later he now only has a feedback of 2, but i would buy from him in a heartbeat. I know i took a huge chance buying my car like i did, but i figured at the least it was a 1000 parts car that i could beat on fer a year or so had i wanted to till i found a better one.

You got that nice a car for only 1k?


I hate you.


I got screwed on my deal too being that the seller said it had a 440 when in reality it was a 383. But compared to some other people here, I got a great deal. So other then the engine not being what I expected, I'm happy with my car.


By the way, is everyone sure the username is HPLAG? I did a search and the one named HPLAG has been a member (from Germany) for 3 years and he has 0 feedback.

[Blakcharger440]

Sorry to disagree with you wakko, but yes I did get burned and yeah I was/am a dumb F*CK for trusting but that does not change the fact that if I had the chance to read thier feedback I would have NEVER bought from them....

I agree Silva. I never buy anything from sellers who hide their feedback either.Too me and many,many others
it is very important.

[AirborneSilva]

funny thing about this feedback stuff...i bought my charger on ebay, i had seen the hlpag cars and gladd i didnt buy one (didnt know bout there history then either). but there feedback #s were not terrible at the time. i just realised it was a "dealer" and thought they were getting a bit greedy. but i DID buy my charger from a KID with 0 feedback, the pics of the car werent very good, he couldnt tell me if it had disk brakes, or an 8.75 , or a sway bar. as a result it sold for a grand. and i drove a solid charger with disks, sway bar, and an 8.75 on my trailer smiling all the way. it didnt run well, but it did run , drive steer and stop. Ebay isnt always bad, over a year later he now only has a feedback of 2, but i would buy from him in a heartbeat. I know i took a huge chance buying my car like i did, but i figured at the least it was a 1000 parts car that i could beat on fer a year or so had i wanted to till i found a better one.

You got that nice a car for only 1k?


I hate you.


I got screwed on my deal too being that the seller said it had a 440 when in reality it was a 383. But compared to some other people here, I got a great deal. So other then the engine not being what I expected, I'm happy with my car.


By the way, is everyone sure the username is HPLAG? I did a search and the one named HPLAG has been a member (from Germany) for 3 years and he has 0 feedback.

It is HLPAG

[1fine69]

i have had both. i have bought stuff from people with tons of feedback and turned out the product wasn't as described and then trying to get it corrected was a 2 month ordeal with the suckiest customer service ever. and it has also happened with low feed back ebayers. bottom line is you take a chance with that stuff. so my suggestion would be if you can check it out in person first!

[Wakko]

They use VCODE440 and 2121BASSETT (or similiar) on Ebay but their regular site is www.HLPAG.com  (Hans Luedke Performance Auto Group I think).   Silva got seriously hosed on his car and a lady from Florida did as well. 

I bought my Charger off Ebay and refused to send a deposit.  I told him that the fact that I bought a plane ticket shows that I'm serious.  I got there, looked over the car and handed him the cash.  DRove it to the shipper and one week later it was in my driveway.  The FIRST time I flew to buy a car that was "rust free" it had more rust than the Titanic.  Rode about as well, too.

[Rack]

They use VCODE440 and 2121BASSETT (or similiar) on Ebay but their regular site is www.HLPAG.com  (Hans Luedke Performance Auto Group I think).   Silva got seriously hosed on his car and a lady from Florida did as well. 

I bought my Charger off Ebay and refused to send a deposit.  I told him that the fact that I bought a plane ticket shows that I'm serious.  I got there, looked over the car and handed him the cash.  DRove it to the shipper and one week later it was in my driveway.  The FIRST time I flew to buy a car that was "rust free" it had more rust than the Titanic.  Rode about as well, too.

That's what I should of done. Of course, at that time I didn't know enough about cars to know the difference between a 383 and a 440 anyway (I've got A LOT to learn, but I've learned a good amount the last two months thanks to this place, mainly). I know enough now what to look for, enough to not get screwed royally anyway. My next car is gonna either be a '67 GTO or a 70/71 Cuda so I'll be prepared at that time. First things first though, I need to get started on my charger (and I'll be doing so as soon as I get my title).

[BigBlockSam]

I bought my Charger off Ebay and refused to send a deposit.  I told him that the fact that I bought a plane ticket shows that I'm serious 

   i did the same. except i told him i would be on the road in the morning with my trailer. when i got there i refused the car. it was crap and he lied about alot of things. that voids the contract.  never send money. go there with the money in your pocket. Rene

[AirborneSilva]

I bought my Charger off Ebay and refused to send a deposit.  I told him that the fact that I bought a plane ticket shows that I'm serious 

   i did the same. except i told him i would be on the road in the morning with my trailer. when i got there i refused the car. it was crap and he lied about alot of things. that voids the contract.  never send money. go there with the money in your pocket. Rene

That is great advice, but not always feesable...

[BigBlockSam]

why not feesble, or hop on a plane, or send someone you know. just don't send money. i would pay all the expensnses to a brother from this board that lived nearby to go look at the car. i won't just throw my money into the ebay  darkness. Rene

[AirborneSilva]

why not feesble, or hop on a plane, or send someone you know. just don't send money. i would pay all the expensnses to a brother from this board that lived nearby to go look at the car. i won't just throw my money into the ebay  darkness. Rene

I lived in Hawaii at the time, did not know anyone on this forum (nor did I know it existed, even after searching a bit for a charger specific forum) and I spent pretty much my whole wadd buying the car.  I am a trusting person by nature, my bad I guess, but you only get one chance to screw me and then you have an enemy for life (like HLPAG cares!), I had made a few other transactions on e-bay both as a seller and a buyer and have never had any problems.......  I did ask another "car" person to look at the add and tell me what they thought, he said it looked good to him and that he would buy - ok so we are both naieve I guess.  In a perfect world I would have physically put my hands on it before buying, but then in a perfect world HLPAG and others like them would not exist. 

[BigBlockSam]

yea, that would make it tougher, i sell alot on ebay most people are ok. then there are those 2% that suck. Rene

[Downeyman]

If a seller has a private feedback, you can;t see the transactions or what the other people had to say but you can see the number of feedbacks and the % possitive and negative and all that other stuff.

[Schuler]

How does everyone get ripped off from them? Does no one look at the cars before they buy them or what? I don't see exactly what they are doing wrong. Can someone explain it to me?

[Drache]

How does everyone get ripped off from them? Does no one look at the cars before they buy them or what? I don't see exactly what they are doing wrong. Can someone explain it to me?

Sure SOME people look at the cars before and then they don't buy them and some like on ebay, people just believe the pictures. Not to mention they cover alot of the rust with bondo and paint!

[dkn1997]

How does everyone get ripped off from them? Does no one look at the cars before they buy them or what? I don't see exactly what they are doing wrong. Can someone explain it to me?

I will try to explain it.   
If you look at their site and descriptions, you see all of the.   stupid catch phrases they use  "yeeeeehaaaa"    "father & son"     "easy resto"    "this baby came with a pavement poundin' big block" and all of other fecal matter that flows out of their mouths.  it's sales.  sleazy sales, but sales nonetheless.  it's annoying, but I think we all would agree that there's nothing illegal about that, some would even say theres nothing wrong with it either.  so that's that. 

BUT, what they do crosses the line from "sugar coating" to outright lies.  maybe they don't cross the line legally and maybe they do.  but the bottom line is that they cross lines that all common decent people know you should not cross, law or no law.

They lie about the cars.  What makes it worse is that not only do they take rusty heaps embelish the description to make a quick buck, but they actually physically do things to the car to cover it up.  primer everything flat, spray bomb engines.  Then they compound it by intentionally taking photos in questionable light in an effort to furthur hide what they do.

[AirborneSilva]

How does everyone get ripped off from them? Does no one look at the cars before they buy them or what? I don't see exactly what they are doing wrong. Can someone explain it to me?

I will try to explain it.   
If you look at their site and descriptions, you see all of the.   stupid catch phrases they use  "yeeeeehaaaa"    "father & son"     "easy resto"    "this baby came with a pavement poundin' big block" and all of other fecal matter that flows out of their mouths.  it's sales.  sleazy sales, but sales nonetheless.  it's annoying, but I think we all would agree that there's nothing illegal about that, some would even say theres nothing wrong with it either.  so that's that. 

BUT, what they do crosses the line from "sugar coating" to outright lies.  maybe they don't cross the line legally and maybe they do.  but the bottom line is that they cross lines that all common decent people know you should not cross, law or no law.

They lie about the cars.  What makes it worse is that not only do they take rusty heaps embelish the description to make a quick buck, but they actually physically do things to the car to cover it up.  primer everything flat, spray bomb engines.  Then they compound it by intentionally taking photos in questionable light in an effort to furthur hide what they do.

What he said! They are con artists...

[PocketThunder]

They use VCODE440 and 2121BASSETT (or similiar) on Ebay but their regular site is www.HLPAG.com  (Hans Luedke Performance Auto Group I think).   Silva got seriously hosed on his car and a lady from Florida did as well. 

I bought my Charger off Ebay and refused to send a deposit.  I told him that the fact that I bought a plane ticket shows that I'm serious.  I got there, looked over the car and handed him the cash.  DRove it to the shipper and one week later it was in my driveway.  The FIRST time I flew to buy a car that was "rust free" it had more rust than the Titanic.  Rode about as well, too.

what am i chopped liver?  .??      

[General_01]

Yea! What he said!   

[blackcharger]

it's really scarey now that these scumbags are offering to restore your car. imigane sending them your fairly solid car. They take off all the good stuff, and replace it with their crap and bondo it over. Or just retag your #s onto one of their junk yard POS

[Brock Samson]

It's called Deceptive Advertising and we have all seen at least a half doz to a dozen examples of folks being scammed by deceptive ads...
we have also seen more then a few examples of Others in the private sector scamming folks too... & we tried to warn them too.. 


                                                                               

[BigBlockSam]

i've bought several cars and bikes off of ebay . it's a very easy concept . DON'T SEND ANY CASH!
I wrote him after the auction and told him that I'd be on the road in the morning with my trailer and cash to get the car . if he says no , it's a scam or a piece of crap. Rene