Xenon headlight kit?

[2Gunz]

Im intrested in changing out the old school lights for some nice bright blue, - white ones.

More interested in the real deal not just some blue painted blubs.


Anybody have any links?

[autodynamics]

i did it these are true xenons

[2Gunz]

Whoa!!  Nice.....

What are they and where did you get the parts?

Or is it a kit?  More info and links Plz 

[Rubberduck]

Great.

This is what I need driving in the dark through the woods.

Where do you get them?



Mario

[mopar1968]

i did it these are true xenons

Best not be teasing us.....

[autodynamics]

i sell the kits ....the kit comes with new headlight housing which fit perfect and a hid kit h4 bulb...all goes for around 500 these light amke your high beams look like there off.

[mopar1968]

i sell the kits ....the kit comes with new headlight housing which fit perfect and a hid kit h4 bulb...all goes for around 500 these light amke your high beams look like there off.

True Xenon units need a electronic unit, kind of like an amplifier.  You can see this in the BMW's and Lexus.  H4 bulbs are not Xenon's.  They are a newer car style housing with replaceable, brighter bulbs  and are available with different tints like blue to mimic Xenon's.  I have the white H4's in my Jeep Cherokee and it did make a considerable difference over the stock Halogen's.  Xenon's for a BMW run in the $1500 range and are brighter than H4's.

[mopar1968]

i sell the kits ....the kit comes with new headlight housing which fit perfect and a hid kit h4 bulb...all goes for around 500 these light amke your high beams look like there off.

True Xenon units need a electronic unit, kind of like an amplifier.  You can see this in the BMW's and Lexus.  H4 bulbs are not Xenon's.  They are a newer car style housing with replaceable, brighter bulbs  and are available with different tints like blue to mimic Xenon's.  I have the white H4's in my Jeep Cherokee and it did make a considerable difference over the stock Halogen's.  Xenon's for a BMW run in the $1500 range and are brighter than H4's.

Everything you did or didn't want to know about headlight technology....  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlight

[autodynamics]

hey buddy h4 bulbs are xenons if thats the bulb you chhose to get. thay sell 9006 h7 9004 and so on as a direct replacement for the original bulb. the kit comes with thre ballast and bulbs hardware etc. if you have any questions i did nycmile 68 charger also!!! for 500 dallors there not just bulbs!

[mopar1968]

hey buddy h4 bulbs are xenons if thats the bulb you chhose to get. thay sell 9006 h7 9004 and so on as a direct replacement for the original bulb. the kit comes with thre ballast and bulbs hardware etc. if you have any questions i did nycmile 68 charger also!!! for 500 dallors there not just bulbs!

It appears that there is H4 Xenon bulbs and H4 Halogen bulbs.  It must be the designation for the diameter and electrical connection.  Of course the difference being one is a Xenon arc and one a filament type.

Cool.  Do you have more pictures of your setup?  You said the kit includes 3 ballest and electrical connectors?  Relays? 

Thanks!

[2Gunz]

I still wanna know where to buy them. 

[NYCMille]

I bought the kit from Autodynamics... he does TOP NOTCH work. The lights are simply fantastic, I'll post a pic of xenons and then the standard bulbs to give a good point of reference - if you still have standard lights just take them out and throw them in the garbage, there is NO comparison. It's great when you pull out of a car show at night and you put the lights on, people never expect to see TRUE xenons in a 40 year old musclecar.

[defiance]

Is there a web site?

[autodynamics]

i sell the kits ... $500 includes bulb ballast and housings. uses factory wiring and minor modification.

[2Gunz]

Ok but where can I get it?


A website with pictures and information would be great.

Maybe a few car pictures with them in it.

Im very interested in this.

However paying $500 dollars for some random something is a turn off.

Pictures and a place to buy plz.

[mopar1968]

Ok but where can I get it?


A website with pictures and information would be great.

Maybe a few car pictures with them in it.

Im very interested in this.

However paying $500 dollars for some random something is a turn off.

Pictures and a place to buy plz.

[2Gunz]

So we have nothing?

You are going to make me go pull them out of a BMW or something arent you.

[mikes68charger]

I dont have pics yet Im still working on the install, should be done tommor. I got the H4 light convershion kit off ebay, why speend 500 when you can spend 50 for set of lights? Im going to buy another set to you as my low beams, All you have to do is break one of the prongs off the H4 Bulb to work. The only problem for my 68 charger is the light is sticking 1/2 in farther out than factory and the light doors dont want to close. So Im going to have to cut 1/2 off the light adjuster cups to get the lights to sink in even like the factory. Looks great so far and way better than factory. I will take pics if you want.

[mopar1968]

I dont have pics yet Im still working on the install, should be done tommor. I got the H4 light convershion kit off ebay, why speend 500 when you can spend 50 for set of lights? Im going to buy another set to you as my low beams, All you have to do is break one of the prongs off the H4 Bulb to work. The only problem for my 68 charger is the light is sticking 1/2 in farther out than factory and the light doors dont want to close. So Im going to have to cut 1/2 off the light adjuster cups to get the lights to sink in even like the factory. Looks great so far and way better than factory. I will take pics if you want.

$50??  Does that include the ballast???

[2Gunz]

I suspect hes tallking about this something like this......


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/58-74-DODGE-CHARGER-EURO-DIAMOND-XENON-HID-LIGHTS_W0QQitemZ130009225280QQihZ003QQcategoryZ36476QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Thats basically a halogen bulb and a blue filter to raise the color temperature a bit.

Trying to find the real deal. A lamp that is an arc source and is a natural 5600K+


Anybody?

[autodynamics]

HEY GUYS THE KIT IS NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A $50 KIT  YOU CANNOT COMPARE THE TWO!! I WILL POST PICS OF THE HOUSINGS AND THE KIT. NYC MILE HAS THE CONVERSION I DID IT. THE KIT FITS ALL CARS BUT THERE ARE SPECIFIC BULBS FOR CARS AS FOR THE CHARGER THE HOUSINGS ACCEPT H4 BULBS THUS NEEDING A H4 CONVERSION . YOU CAN BUY THOSE KITS OFF OF EBAY HOWEVER THOSE KITS TEND TO BE CHEAP AND HAVE FOUND THAT IF YOU DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A BALLAST OR A BULB GOOD LUCK REPLACING THEM. I HAVE BEEN DOING THESE CONVERSIONS FOR 5+ YEARS AND KNOW EXACTLY WHATS GOOD AND NOT. HERE ARE SOME MORE PICS OF MY CAR WITH THE HID'S IF YOU GUYS NEED INFO ON THE KIT I CAN GET IT FOR YOU THE HOUSINGS ARE NOT OFF OF EBAY THEY ARE GERMAN GLASS HOUSINGS LIKE THE ORIGINAL. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v728/AUTODYNAMICS/

[mopar1968]

Thats the real problem here.  Some people assume that if it's on Ebay and it says Xenon in the description, that it's a real Xenon.  The biggest thing the kiddies are into these days is replacing their stock white bulbs with blue tinted ones to copy the look of Xenon's.

There is a reason BMW charges $3K for theirs......I wouldn't be surprised to find someone making a kit and it selling for half, but, $50?  or even $500??  Beware...Especially when we can't even get more info in a timely manner....

[autodynamics]

SORRY THAT I HAVENT RESPONDED FASTER, BUT THE KITS ARE AVAILABLE FOR 500 3000 WAS A PRICE FROM YEARS AGO. THERE ARE A FEW WEB PAGES YOU CAN GO TO.. HIDS4LESS.COM
I BELIEVE IS ONE.

[Rack]

SORRY THAT I HAVENT RESPONDED FASTER, BUT THE KITS ARE AVAILABLE FOR 500 3000 WAS A PRICE FROM YEARS AGO. THERE ARE A FEW WEB PAGES YOU CAN GO TO.. HIDS4LESS.COM
I BELIEVE IS ONE.

If someone actually pays you that $500 you may want to invest in a keyboard that doesn't have a broken CAPS LOCK key.

[2Gunz]

Ok this is going knowhere fast.

Lets make this more simple.....

Autodynamics do you sell theses kits?

If you do....

Do you have pictures of the kits in the car and out?

who makes the kits that you sell?

What is the part # ?

If I wanted to buy one from you how would I contact you to do so?

Do you have a website?

What form of money do you accept?

What is included on the kit?

Do I have to buy any extra stuff that is not included in the kit?

Do I have to modify my current lamp housing?

Oh and PICTURES PICTURES PICTURES............


I cant believe how painful this is lol.

Anyway if you do sell them and would like to sell more of them I suggest you make it easy to do so.

Im still looking for any information anybody can get me.

Thanks

[autodynamics]

OK here goes the the lights (Kit) is universal i think we established that already. the kit uses hella housings not diamond things from ebay the part number for hella is 71452 i will try and take pics of the hid's not installed in a vehicle, and also a housing. the kits are sold through my distributor and i will try and get literature on them. everyhing sold in the kit is all that is needed to make the lights possible to work. your existing headlight come out put aside the new housings with the bulbs are then put in place of them. in the kit a wire assembly is included which need a input from the existing headlight (power goes on  that wire when on ) and the rest goes to the battery for power and ground and wallah done. the hardest part is mounting everything which all in all should take about an hour. now you have transformed the old 60's headlights to new modern  technology. before any body asks the kit uses less power than a conversion bulbs. it will last longer due to the fact they burn at a higher voltage using less ampage. think of it like a florescent bulb and fixture. i will try and get you pics of if you guys want to call me directly you can 516-225-2735 autodynamics... ask for Pete..

[mopar1968]

OK here goes the the lights (Kit) is universal i think we established that already. the kit uses hella housings not diamond things from ebay the part number for hella is 71452 i will try and take pics of the hid's not installed in a vehicle, and also a housing. the kits are sold through my distributor and i will try and get literature on them. everyhing sold in the kit is all that is needed to make the lights possible to work. your existing headlight come out put aside the new housings with the bulbs are then put in place of them. in the kit a wire assembly is included which need a input from the existing headlight (power goes on  that wire when on ) and the rest goes to the battery for power and ground and wallah done. the hardest part is mounting everything which all in all should take about an hour. now you have transformed the old 60's headlights to new modern  technology. before any body asks the kit uses less power than a conversion bulbs. it will last longer due to the fact they burn at a higher voltage using less ampage. think of it like a florescent bulb and fixture. i will try and get you pics of if you guys want to call me directly you can 516-225-2735 autodynamics... ask for Pete..

What about the ballast.  From the research I've done since this thread has painfully contiued, Xenon HID headlamps need a ballast to create the Xenon Arc.  This can not be accomplished by normal 12v. 

Now, with that said.....like I was trying to explain before, replacing/upgrading the headlamps to a newer replacable lamp design like on new cars is much cheaper and easy.  This would be a good upgrade, more white, more bright system, like the SilverStar series that mid 90's cars benefit from over standard halogen.  In other words, a direct bulb replacement for them.  But, NOT HID or Xenon.

Please clarify more......Here is a quote from wikipedia.org regarding HID lamps.  wikipedia.org is like a dictionary for this....

HID technology
HID stands for high-intensity discharge, the technical term for the electric arc that produces the light. Automotive HID lamps are commonly called xenon headlamps because of the xenon gas used in the lamps. The xenon gas allows the lamps to produce minimally adequate amounts of light upon startup and speed the warmup time. If argon were used instead, as is commonly done in street and other stationary HID lamps, it would take several minutes for the lamps to reach their full output. HID headlamps use a small, purpose-designed metal halide lamp and produce more light than ordinary incandescent light bulbs (including quartz halogen lamps). The light from HID headlamps has a distinct bluish tint when compared with normal headlamps. The high intensity of the arc comes from metallic salts that are vaporized within the arc chamber.

HID headlamp bulbs produce between 2,800 and 3,000 lumens from 42 watts of electrical power, while halogen filament headlamp bulbs produce between 700 and 2,100 lumens from between 40 and 65 watts. Because of the increased amounts of light available from HID bulbs, HID headlamps producing a given beam pattern can be made smaller than halogen headlamps producing a comparable beam pattern. Alternatively, the larger size can be retained, in which case the Xenon headlamp can produce a more robust beam pattern.

An HID headlamp requires a ballast. The ballast converts the 12 volts used in automotive electrical systems to the several thousand volts required to strike and maintain the arc.

Despite marketing claims to the contrary, HID headlamps' light output is not similar to daylight. The spectral power distribution (SPD) of an automotive HID headlamp is discontinuous, while the SPD of a filament lamp, like that of the sun, is a continuous curve.

The arc within an HID headlamp bulb generates considerable short-wave ultraviolet (UV) light, but none of it escapes the bulb. A UV-absorbing hard glass shield is incorporated around the bulb's arc tube. This is important to prevent degradation of UV-sensitive components and materials in headlamps, such as polycarbonate lenses and reflector hardcoats. The lamps do emit considerable near-UV light).

Vehicles equipped with HID headlamps are required by ECE regulation 48 also to be equipped with headlamp lens cleaning systems and automatic beam levelling control. Both of these measures are intended to reduce the tendency for high-output headlamps to cause high levels of glare to other road users.

The arc light source in an HID headlamp is fundamentally different from the filament light source used in tungsten/halogen headlamps. For that reason, HID-specific optics are used to collect and distribute the light. Installing HID bulbs in headlamps designed to take filament bulbs results in improperly-focused beam patterns and excessive glare, and is therefore illegal in almost all countries.

[autodynamics]

the kit comes with a ballast ....... you guys are sooo confused i will post pics and it will explain everything ,.... hold on to your panty's pics will be posted very soon.   

[autodynamics]

here are a pics more to come

[mopar1968]

here are a pics more to come

Well, that answers all my questions........

[autodynamics]

mopar 68 i will show u the ballast and bulbs but my car is in the body shop but i can take a picture of a kit out of my other car ..these pics show the housings only

[Silver R/T]

we should set up a group buy, so that way if we get like 5 or more people interested price will be lowered

[NYCMille]

I'll take a pic of my set-up and post the pics tomorrow sometime.

[my69]

we should set up a group buy, so that way if we get like 5 or more people interested price will be lowered

I would when the timing is right

For some reason I love these smilely thing a ma chingies 

[mopar1968]

I'll take a pic of my set-up and post the pics tomorrow sometime.

You must be on the 72 hour day program. 

[autodynamics]

HERE ARE THE SOME PICS OF THE BULBS BALLAST HOUSINGS. I LIKE THE HELLA HOUSING ITS MADE OUT OF GLASS AND LOOKS PERFECT,THE BALLAST WAS MOUNTED UNDER THE FRONT BUMPER AND THE BULB WAS AN EXTRA ONE I HAD FOR PICTURE PURPOSES.

[autodynamics]

ALL OF THIS FOR THIS

[NorwayCharger]

ALL OF THIS FOR THIS

In other words "TRUE XENON LIGHTS"

[Hansson]

Me like, can you ride with the headlampdoors closed or will it get to hot?

/Hansson

[autodynamics]

the hid's are actually cooler than a regular bulb... so heat is not an issue

[Hansson]

OK, thanks
When my project comes to that stage the xenon's are high on my list, (5-6years)

/Hansson

[autodynamics]

ok

[sick dawg]

Autodynamics have you done high and low beam or does this cause a problem?  Anything would be an improvement over what I have.
Does $ 500.00 get them boxed up and shipped to me too?
Thanks.
Brian

[bill440rt]

Bookmarked this page for sure. My Project '69 could definitely use a set of those. 

Tell me more, more, MORE!!!!