Anyone into homeopathy?

[Charger_Croatia]

This could be unusual thread but maybe it will help somebody looking for different solutions to keep health.

Beginning last year my wife had missed pregnancy, reason not found. Few months later during regular check it was told to her that she had e-coli in urinary tract. Than we started to ask ourselves a question was that a reason for loosing a baby (e-coli was probably in uterus too). BTW e-coli was found in my urethra also. For me one dose of antibiotics was enough but not for my wife. She was so careful with everything, all precautions were taken according to doctor's suggestion. Do I need to mention that third dose didn't help, despite all precautions. Almost 5 months on antibiotics and nothing!?

Than a friend told us to visit homeopath. We didn't have nothing to loose (except $60 for paying a visit) so she went there. For about 1 1/2 hour she was there while that guy (who is good surgeon BTW) was looking at the device scale searching for energy-out-of-balance points. He found e-coli and some other problems (my wife was not aware oh those others).

Her therapy was some drops, seaweeds tablets, different mixtures of teas based on herbs (every week other combination); but no caffeine, menthol, milk and milk products. I followed  her with teas only (

After one moths she went for check to see is there any difference. At homeopath everything was fine this time, e-coli was gone. Additional test in laboratory shown that she is clear too. I guess an old man was right when said "Mother nature has cure for everything, only we need to find it". It helped to us and now we can go on with planing new pregnancy.

[4402tuff4u]

I've heard of illnesses or conditions that don't react to conventional medicine, and patients tend to try homeopathy or hollistic medicine. It's basically a different approach for the treatment of ailments. Homeopathy and hollistic medicine tend to treat the whole body/system, not just as a localized problem. I believe the Mayo clinic here in the USA is a leader in that field. If your wife continues to have problems, it might be worth a call or visit to the Mayo clinic. They are considered one of the top medical institution here in the state's. Hope she recovers and you become a parent.

[derailed]

We are looking into this route with our 4 year old son who has severe sinus problems. Hes been through 2 surgeries and a boatload of antibiotics. He keeps coming down with major sinus infections, then does not eat and he catches every cold and flu that comes down the pike because of no immune system due to not eating. Ive tested for mold in the house and even went as far as gutting the bathrooms and replacing all the sheetrock. Right now he is seeing an allergist and next its off to the homeopathic doctor. My friends wife has had great success with one.

[last426]

It's quackery, pure and simple.  It has no basis in science and, in contrast to many voodoo remedies, makes no logical sense either.  If you want to use it on yourself or anyone over the age of majority, fine, study it and go with it.  Parents who use "treatments" such as this, if harm comes to the child, must be prosecuted.  And there is a legal history of parents, using things like this for treatment of serious diseases, like cancer or diabetes, are forced by courts to use traditional science based medicine.  Hardlined?  You bet.  But this is 2006 and it is time for people who base their lives on science, US citizens for instance, to start taking a responsible approach to their own health matters and get out of the dark ages. 

But to softshoe it just a little, let the homeopaths and any other alternative practitioners subject their claims to double blind studies, as science must.  Then they may prove efficacious.  Kim

[Blown70]

It's quackery, pure and simple.  It has no basis in science and, in contrast to many voodoo remedies, makes no logical sense either.  If you want to use it on yourself or anyone over the age of majority, fine, study it and go with it.  Parents who use "treatments" such as this, if harm comes to the child, must be prosecuted.  And there is a legal history of parents, using things like this for treatment of serious diseases, like cancer or diabetes, are forced by courts to use traditional science based medicine.  Hardlined?  You bet.  But this is 2006 and it is time for people who base their lives on science, US citizens for instance, to start taking a responsible approach to their own health matters and get out of the dark ages.  Kim

Really and modern medicine kills how many people per year.  187,000 from drug interactions last I checked.  That was posted in the NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE  (ahhh hmm journal for harvard if it matters)  That was only drug interactions.  Now you want to add in surgery buddy?


Tom

[last426]

It's quackery, pure and simple.  It has no basis in science and, in contrast to many voodoo remedies, makes no logical sense either.  If you want to use it on yourself or anyone over the age of majority, fine, study it and go with it.  Parents who use "treatments" such as this, if harm comes to the child, must be prosecuted.  And there is a legal history of parents, using things like this for treatment of serious diseases, like cancer or diabetes, are forced by courts to use traditional science based medicine.  Hardlined?  You bet.  But this is 2006 and it is time for people who base their lives on science, US citizens for instance, to start taking a responsible approach to their own health matters and get out of the dark ages.  Kim

Really and modern medicine kills how many people per year.  187,000 from drug interactions last I checked.  That was posted in the NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE  (ahhh hmm journal for harvard if it matters)  That was only drug interactions.  Now you want to add in surgery buddy?
Tom

Hey buddy, great argument (oh, except there is no such thing as "journal for harvard").  But regardless, even if that figure was true, that in now way validates homeopathy.  That is like saying, "modern cars are safe".  And then arguing, "safe?  60,000 people died in car wrecks last year".  Kim 

[TheGhost]

Belief goes a long way.  The mind is far more powerful than you give it credit, Kim.  Tests using placebos PROVE that to be true.

[Blown70]

It's quackery, pure and simple.  It has no basis in science and, in contrast to many voodoo remedies, makes no logical sense either.  If you want to use it on yourself or anyone over the age of majority, fine, study it and go with it.  Parents who use "treatments" such as this, if harm comes to the child, must be prosecuted.  And there is a legal history of parents, using things like this for treatment of serious diseases, like cancer or diabetes, are forced by courts to use traditional science based medicine.  Hardlined?  You bet.  But this is 2006 and it is time for people who base their lives on science, US citizens for instance, to start taking a responsible approach to their own health matters and get out of the dark ages.  Kim

Really and modern medicine kills how many people per year.  187,000 from drug interactions last I checked.  That was posted in the NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE  (ahhh hmm journal for harvard if it matters)  That was only drug interactions.  Now you want to add in surgery buddy?
Tom

Hey buddy, great argument (oh, except there is no such thing as "journal for harvard").  But regardless, even if that figure was true, that in now way validates homeopathy.  That is like saying, "modern cars are safe".  And then arguing, "safe?  60,000 people died in car wrecks last year".  Kim 

Hey, how about learn how to read.  NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE   IS  the journal for harvard medial school .....(EDIT smarta55 comment #1)?

[Blown70]

It's quackery, pure and simple.  It has no basis in science and, in contrast to many voodoo remedies, makes no logical sense either.  If you want to use it on yourself or anyone over the age of majority, fine, study it and go with it.  Parents who use "treatments" such as this, if harm comes to the child, must be prosecuted.  And there is a legal history of parents, using things like this for treatment of serious diseases, like cancer or diabetes, are forced by courts to use traditional science based medicine.  Hardlined?  You bet.  But this is 2006 and it is time for people who base their lives on science, US citizens for instance, to start taking a responsible approach to their own health matters and get out of the dark ages. 

But to softshoe it just a little, let the homeopaths and any other alternative practitioners subject their claims to double blind studies, as science must.  Then they may prove efficacious.  Kim

And how is this arguement mean anything.  Do you know much MODERN medicine is ACTUALLY scientifically proven?  Make a guess.....  (EDIT smartass comment #2)?

IF you based your medical decision on science you would never take a medication or have surgery.....

Tom

[Blown70]

By the way Charger_Croatia EUPROPEAN countries are light years ahead in the homoepathic remedies.  They have standards which unfortunately is not often followed in America.  You will be surprised and impressed.

Tom

[Neal_J]

Homepathy might be of use to some, maybe.

Instead, let's kill the infection and solve the problem with certainty. 

Ask the doctor to prescribe her CIPRO (Ciprofloxacin)...very powerful systemic antibiotic.   It's made by Bayer Pharmaceutical, is in use in over 100 countries and has been approved for treatment in 14 types of infections, including e-coli.  It's especially helpful in UT (urinary tract) infections. 

Yea, I used to work for the manufacturer.  (http://www.cipro.com/en/home.html)

Best of luck to your bride,

Neal

[Ponch ®]

It's quackery, pure and simple.  It has no basis in science and, in contrast to many voodoo remedies, makes no logical sense either.  If you want to use it on yourself or anyone over the age of majority, fine, study it and go with it.  Parents who use "treatments" such as this, if harm comes to the child, must be prosecuted.  And there is a legal history of parents, using things like this for treatment of serious diseases, like cancer or diabetes, are forced by courts to use traditional science based medicine.  Hardlined?  You bet.  But this is 2006 and it is time for people who base their lives on science, US citizens for instance, to start taking a responsible approach to their own health matters and get out of the dark ages. 

But to softshoe it just a little, let the homeopaths and any other alternative practitioners subject their claims to double blind studies, as science must.  Then they may prove efficacious.  Kim

besides, everyone knows that Xenu is the answer to all illnesses.

[last426]

Belief goes a long way.  The mind is far more powerful than you give it credit, Kim.  Tests using placebos PROVE that to be true.

I totally believe in the power of placebos, they have been proven time and time again.  But the question was only concerning the efficacy of homeopathy.  Just the fact of dilution to the point of no more chemical in the solution but having it still contain the essence to be efficacious makes no sense.  Is this the one where like cures like, or the opposite?  C'mon, put a drop of syrup of  ipecac  in a pool of water, mix it up, take a drop of that and put it in another pool, mix it up, and repeat several times.  Then use the final solution to cure vomiting?  Final solution indeed.  But I must admit that I am very biased when it comes to taking advantage of folks vis a vis their health.  Kim

[Charger_Croatia]

Huh, there are some serious arguing here about this.
I would like to say: I don't have anything against traditional medicine! But, my wife was at the "traditional therapy" with antibiotics for 5 months without results!! How about that! It seems that modern bacteria is more and more resistant to antibiotics. Finally we decided to go with homeopathy and it worked!! Important thing is: all products we got were bases on herbs and sea weeds. Don't forget that any antibiotics are toxic for our body, help on one side but do some damage on the other side.

BTW, my wife had also allergic reaction on certain things. In parallel with e-coli she got also treatment for this too. Do I need to say that she don't have any allergic reaction now!?

I'm talking about my (and my wife) personal experience so I don't need "scientific prove"!
Maybe this could be of some help for people who are struggling to find results for their health.

[Charger_Croatia]

Homepathy might be of use to some, maybe.

Instead, let's kill the infection and solve the problem with certainty. 

Ask the doctor to prescribe her CIPRO (Ciprofloxacin)...very powerful systemic antibiotic.   It's made by Bayer Pharmaceutical, is in use in over 100 countries and has been approved for treatment in 14 types of infections, including e-coli.  It's especially helpful in UT (urinary tract) infections. 

Yea, I used to work for the manufacturer.  (http://www.cipro.com/en/home.html)

Best of luck to your bride,

Neal

That was the last one she got and e-coli was still there, maybe in smaller numbers but still there. I have a daughter and every time she got throat infection I'm going with antibiotics for quick recovery. But to keep her immune system we are using some products based on honey and herbs and this is functional so far.
Also I have a friend who told me that many of good modern antibiotics are based on extractions from herbs or exotic fruits.

[Charger_Croatia]

By the way Charger_Croatia EUPROPEAN countries are light years ahead in the homoepathic remedies.  They have standards which unfortunately is not often followed in America.  You will be surprised and impressed.

Tom

I guess you're right. 

[psykicpup]

Cant say I agree with Homeopathy per say but the reason so many 'bugs' are resistant to antibiotics is the way they are over prescribed & often taken incorrectly or incompletely
My doctor rarely prescribes any antibiotic for this reason -ususlly when the kids were younger he would right up a 'script for them but advise to allow the body to fight the infection 1st ie: if no better in a week then take them
Now to this end anything which help the body fight infection (such as Tea Tree or Honey  other foods & herbs) is a positive step.
There are loads of books (look for Healing Foods I think its by Micheal Murrey-my copies lent out again as usual) that give good suggestions - you should even find thing that a good to eat if you're trying for a baby!
Good Luck

[Chargerguy74]

I believe more in herbs and natural stuff than the drugs that are out there today. With a world that revolves around money and lives off the sick you never know what are in the drugs. Maybe they will temporarily cure you, or maybe give you something else that will need to be treated down the road.

[2Gunz]

Somehow the human race has survived a LONG time without "modern" medicine.

The body is a fine tuned machine that with proper care is able on its own to fight off most problems.

Unfortunatly our diet and nutrition at this point in history is simply trash and we offset Mcdonalds with
stronger and stronger pills.

And as far as the "real" doctors go....  They make alot of educated guesses, but no doctor knows
EXACTLY what is going to work best for each patient. All they can do is try... and when that doesnt work
they try something else.