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Another "LEE" saved! LEE #1, that is..

Started by CNH 320, June 15, 2006, 03:05:04 AM

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JimShine

Quote from: Todd Wilson on June 15, 2006, 05:01:26 PM
Quote from: teddy1500 on June 15, 2006, 06:33:41 AM
Maybe they will jump LEE1 at the next dukes inbred family reunion.....wouldn't that be great?


I think T Bell is merely cashing in on his dukes knowledge/know how and making money off the Duke lamers out there. Look at all the people flock to the dukefests. Its simply business for him.

Travis has had absolutely nothing to do with Dukesfest for quite a few years. Ben Jones and now CMT is the Dukesfest guys. And the car belongs to someone else. They put Travis in charge of the restoration to make sure the car ended up looking like it did originally.

Big Lebowski

They're fixing the $27,000 twisted up wreck?
"Let me explain something to you, um i am not Mr. Lebowski, you're Mr. Lebowski. I'm the dude, so that's what you call me. That or his dudeness, or duder, or you know, el duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing."

Chris G.

Quote from: BrianShaughnessy on June 15, 2006, 06:23:33 PM
It was downright embarrassing to go looking at that heap at Carlisle a few years ago...  I'm sure T. Bell got paid to bring it there too.

I normally agree with you Brian, but I am 100% opposite of you on this one. The only General Lee I think I ever spent more that 2 minutes around was that so called "embarrassing" car you mention. It was mobbed the entire weekend in the previous shape it was in. Now he could park next to to you at some show, and you would have no idea what it was or why anyone should care.

The only reason this car will even be noticed outside of a Duke event, is because they will load it up with gobs of so called "original documentation" and hype. To most it's just yet another orange 01 car.

If I saw an article saying the original Lee was found, I would rather see it in it's previous state, rather than to hear it was restored. Either way it doesn't matter much to me because to this day I can't watch an entire episode of that show. The Dukes and Mopars have no real relation. The Duke boys in Carlisle remind me of the PT Cruiser guys. Most only care about that one car and not the show. That doesn't mean every owner, but the numbers are high.

itchyballs

wonder if any of the other  original cars from the series are going to get restored??

Brightyellow69rtse

well i grew up on the dukes and i really believe thats why i own a 69 today, the show was cool i still watch it now and again. my car isnt a general lee replica or anything like that. if i ever got a junker to restore, who knows maybe id do a clone just for the hell of it. you never know itd probly be fun to bang around in it now and then lol, jump the occasional water tower to get out of a speeding ticket. but it he wants to fix it power to him another one saved.

           i still believe that the show actually caused more cars to be saved than they destroyed, if the show killed 400 cars (not sure the actual # and wanna be jumps over the years at dukes fest and such) its no big deal in the big picture to me cuse people who dont even know mopar know what the general lee looks like. ive seen some pretty sad chargers that probly wernt worth the effort but they were restored cuse people wanted a general lee.

all i can say to travis is good luck gettting the cement out of the trunk  :-\........Mike

BrianShaughnessy

Quote from: Chris G. on June 15, 2006, 07:32:14 PM
Quote from: BrianShaughnessy on June 15, 2006, 06:23:33 PM
It was downright embarrassing to go looking at that heap at Carlisle a few years ago...  I'm sure T. Bell got paid to bring it there too.

I normally agree with you Brian, but I am 100% opposite of you on this one. The only General Lee I think I ever spent more that 2 minutes around was that so called "embarrassing" car you mention. It was mobbed the entire weekend in the previous shape it was in. Now he could park next to to you at some show, and you would have no idea what it was or why anyone should care.

The only reason this car will even be noticed outside of a Duke event, is because they will load it up with gobs of so called "original documentation" and hype. To most it's just yet another orange 01 car.

If I saw an article saying the original Lee was found, I would rather see it in it's previous state, rather than to hear it was restored. Either way it doesn't matter much to me because to this day I can't watch an entire episode of that show. The Dukes and Mopars have no real relation. The Duke boys in Carlisle remind me of the PT Cruiser guys. Most only care about that one car and not the show. That doesn't mean every owner, but the numbers are high.



No problem Chris.

   I still see it my way... and your way is fine too.   I don't pretend to want to have a GL clone but I understand there's people that do.    Like I said,  I don't hate the show...  I kinda like it.   I do believe it's helped save lots of Chargers... even some of them incorrect years like '68 or '70  ;D

    But here's what I see happening...    T. Bell took the car around to a bunch of shows and got appearance fees to show up with a heap on a open trailer... people like me looked at it for 2 minutes... some looked at it longer.  Whatever.    Now the appearance fee $ is dried up.

    Come November,  he has a freshley restored documented LEE1 to show off.     Now watch this puppy get dragged over the country in a enclosed trailer behind a motor home with a T shirt stand...  with some sponsor logos on it too.    You'll probably have to  pay to have your picture taken with it too.   

    I can't explain the whole Duke thing...   it is what it is.    It's not hurting anybody that I know of  :icon_smile_wink:
I know there's a whole lot of less deserving cars that get restored for no other reason that they used to be owned by some celebrity or whatnot.    I would hope LEE1 would end up at the Smithsonian later on.   
   
Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

Ghoste

I bet if the money was right, he would jump it.

JimShine


Ghoste

I'm implying that if the money was there, Travis would do most anything for it.  I'm being more cynical than literal.

Bandit72

Quote from: Ghoste on June 15, 2006, 10:48:14 PM
I bet if the money was right, he would jump it.

as a dukes fan i think it would be kinda neat to see the car jumped back at oxford college, in the same spot as the original jump was....if they could get it to land like it did then, and fly for about the same distance, the car wasn't that bad off...(not saying that everyone needs to go jump there chargers, but i just think it would be kinda neat)
Daddy ran whiskey in a big black dodge
bought it at an auction at the masons lodge,
Johnson County Sherriff painted on the side,
just shot a coat of primer then he looked inside,
well him and my uncle tore that engine down,
I still remember that rumblin' sound.....

Ghoste


Mike DC

 
Travis Bell doesn't own the car.

Nobody in any of the hardcore GL fan clubs gets a dollar from "Dukesfest" these days.

It's the very first GL EVER.  Surely the motivation for fixing it up is understandable? 


WM23N1

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on June 16, 2006, 10:39:35 PM
 


It's the very first GL EVER.  Surely the motivation for fixing it up is understandable? 


Its also why most people even want a charger and why the second gen is so valuable. If it wasnt for the General Lee what would a second gen be worth?, which is what most people only care about anyways.
1971 Super Bee 383 "The WM23N1" http://1971-1974dodgecharger.com/

The Ghoul

Quote from: CNH 320 on June 15, 2006, 05:08:20 AM
Geese!

I really don't know why your Americans make such a problem about the word "f*ck". Like it's a nasty decease or something.. :icon_smile_angry: Get a life. Sure.. we can use "D*mn", or any other incarnation of that word.. but to say "f*ck",.. ohw man.. that's the crime of the century.

Better call the cops, FBI, CIA, FCC to put me away in jail.. Man Í'm scarred!

They just want to disagree with you on this issue but because it has been discussed many times they would rather mock your word choice to feel superior. Apparently freedom of speech* means freedom to bitch and press your morals on other people.
I wonder what Snyder thinks about this whole situation. The lee#1 resto not the F-bomb.
I have always heard that he restores cars to 'Lee specs' for fun.

*(first amendment to the US constitution to ensure we can speak out agents our government if we so choose)

Lowprofile

Quote from: WM23N1 on June 17, 2006, 11:50:02 AM
Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on June 16, 2006, 10:39:35 PM
 


It's the very first GL EVER.  Surely the motivation for fixing it up is understandable? 


Its also why most people even want a charger and why the second gen is so valuable. If it wasnt for the General Lee what would a second gen be worth?, which is what most people only care about anyways.


Wow. :rotz:
"Its better to live one day as a Lion than a Lifetime as a Lamb".

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Proud Owner of:
1970 Dodge Charger R/T
1993 Dodge Ram Charger
1998 Freightliner Classic XL

genlee1970

So... some people take issue with someone making money with thier car (or someone elses) ? I say if you can do something that you love and put your heart and soul into, and make others happy or turn a tidy profit, more power to you. I built my GL clone for my own enjoyment, and the fact that it brings happiness to so many others, especially the kids, is icing on the cake. I can't get a mile from my house without a thumbs up, horn beep, wave etc. People stop in traffic to take pictures, not to mention the General Lee Poparatsi that plagues me on the highway. It's all good. It's only within the Mopar camp that GL clones get bashed. Out in the real world, we're treated like some kind of celebrity. And btw, no two GL clones are exactly the same. I've purposely deviated from the "standard" to suit my own tastes. Anyway, hope this fuels the flames and stirs some s**t as things have been kinda dull since the rest of the Dayclona gang has been banned.  ;)

73-charger-383

i just can't wait till the "Joe Dirt" superbird clones catch on.........man, think of what the first one of them will be worth

terrible one

Quote from: 73-charger-383 on June 18, 2006, 10:25:27 PM
i just can't wait till the "Joe Dirt" superbird clones catch on.........man, think of what the first one of them will be worth

Actually I do believe that the Joe Dirt wing car was a Daytona.

8WHEELER

Quote from: The Ghoul on June 18, 2006, 04:12:19 PM
Quote from: CNH 320 on June 15, 2006, 05:08:20 AM
Geese!

I really don't know why your Americans make such a problem about the word "f*ck". Like it's a nasty decease or something.. :icon_smile_angry: Get a life. Sure.. we can use "D*mn", or any other incarnation of that word.. but to say "f*ck",.. ohw man.. that's the crime of the century.

Better call the cops, FBI, CIA, FCC to put me away in jail.. Man Í'm scarred!

They just want to disagree with you on this issue but because it has been discussed many times they would rather mock your word choice to feel superior. Apparently freedom of speech* means freedom to bitch and press your morals on other people.
I wonder what Snyder thinks about this whole situation. The lee#1 resto not the F-bomb.
I have always heard that he restores cars to 'Lee specs' for fun.

*(first amendment to the US constitution to ensure we can speak out agents our government if we so choose)


Good thinking, through gas onto the fire, after its out. Snyder's last GL he put together was a Hemi car..................
Ummm no that's not sticking to ''Lee specs'' well maybe in your book..............

74 Dart Sport 360, just for added fun.

CaptMarvel

I dont have any problem with the DOH/GL cloners out there. Not my thing, & I wouldnt do it to an old charger, but live and let live I guess, I used to watch it when it was first on, I liked it for what it was (just goofy redneck American fun)  I might entertain the idea of cloning a DMCL 69 with slot mags and all. I do think the Dukes did save far more Chargers than it destroyed though....

Chris G.

Quote from: WM23N1 on June 17, 2006, 11:50:02 AM
Its also why most people even want a charger and why the second gen is so valuable. If it wasnt for the General Lee what would a second gen be worth?, which is what most people only care about anyways.

Errrr...ummm...uhhh....wrong!

Where did you pull that fact from?

What TV show made the 'Cuda and Challenger so valuable?  A Hemi Charger selling for over 150K has ZERO to do with the Dukes. As a matter of fact, I rarely and I mean rarely run into a 2nd gen owner who was inspired by the Dukes. It's the car man...don't give the Duke boys credit for something Chrysler designed.  :Twocents:

Dale The Bold

Quote from: Chris G. on June 19, 2006, 01:52:23 PM
What TV show made the 'Cuda and Challenger so valuable?
Nash Bridges and Vanishing Point. 

Okay, it's hard to gauge how much influence a TV show (or movie) has on the value of a car unless we open a portal to an alternate dimension in which that show never existed.  But most of the General Lee clones are non-R/T, non-Daytona, non-500 cars.  In fact, outside of Photoshop, I've never seen a Daytona or 500 turned into a General Lee.  I would be inclined to believe that the Dukes of Hazzard has influenced the price of base model 2nd generation Chargers.  Especially when a cataclysmic event, such as the 2005 movie, occurs.  Had the movie been done well, the effects would have been multiplied.
Matt. 14:8 (KJV) "And she, being before instructed of her mother, said, 'give me here John Baptist's head in a Charger.'"

Chris G.

Quote from: Dale The Bold on June 19, 2006, 06:26:51 PM
Quote from: Chris G. on June 19, 2006, 01:52:23 PM
What TV show made the 'Cuda and Challenger so valuable?
Nash Bridges and Vanishing Point. 
Vanishing Point? Was it a hit when it came out in the theatres? I couldn't answer that, but how many VP clones do you see running around? I have seen ZERO.

Nash Bridges? Serious? Did that show ever crack the top 10 in ratings? Again, how many clones do you see running around?

Both had nothing to do with the price boom. It's a desireable body style just as the Charger is. It was only inevitable that both cars would become huge collector cars down the road much like GM and Ford have their desireable models. Again, the Dukes had nothing to do with it.

The Ghoul

Quote from: Chris G. on June 19, 2006, 06:40:29 PM
Quote from: Dale The Bold on June 19, 2006, 06:26:51 PM
Quote from: Chris G. on June 19, 2006, 01:52:23 PM
What TV show made the 'Cuda and Challenger so valuable?
Nash Bridges and Vanishing Point. 
Again, how many clones do you see running around?

How many convertible 71 hemi cudas do you see running around?
shit
how many convertible 71 cudas do you see running around?
you see how its diffrent right?
Though I must say, the yellow/white combo on the 71 cuda looks hot!

Chris G.

Quote from: The Ghoul on June 19, 2006, 07:33:30 PM
How many convertible 71 hemi cudas do you see running around?
shit
how many convertible 71 cudas do you see running around?
you see how its diffrent right?
Though I must say, the yellow/white combo on the 71 cuda looks hot!

He brought up Nash Bridges, not me.

I know you love to border on reality, but...reality is, Nash Bridges and Vanishing Point had nothing to do with e-body prices skyrocketing.