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what's a 69 date coded 440 six pack motor worth??

Started by itchyballs, June 10, 2006, 03:05:44 PM

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Big Lebowski

  I think someone already said this, but all '70-'72 440 HP's were six-pack engines, even my engine cast in 11/69, that cast date would make it for a '70 car.
      Also, with the externally balanced 440 HP 1 or 2 engines, if you trash the stock/weighted converter, you can now internally balance the engine with the 6-pack balancer. This is for cammed up engines using 2500-3500 stall 0 balance converters.
       There's 3 kinds of BB balancers...the steel ringed thin type for steel crank 383-440's, the (all '70-'72 HP) 6 pack balancer, and the fat cast crank type with a ring that looks like a 6-pack type, but don't be fooled, look at all 3.   
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Shatar4

Quote from: 68-70 Charger on June 11, 2006, 04:09:01 PM
yep correct the casting # in 69 would have been 2536430

Arthur

OK then, I have one for you. I have a 440HP with six pack internels with a casting number of 2536430 which would have made it a 69 casting (date on the side is 7-28-69), but on the top pad it has G 440,
12-16 HP which makes it for a 71 car. How is this possable?

JimShine


Shatar4

I realize they would not build the motor right away but to cast it on 7-28-69 and finally put it in a car about a year later is a little bit longer then usual.

JimShine

I have no idea. I did look into this because I thought my engine was a September '68 cast engine with a F440 12 15 code. I could not find much on it. I now think the deal is that it is obvious the stamper was crooked when it hit my block. It fades as you move into the lower lefthand corner. The bottom of the letter fades as does some of the 440. I think it is an E with a missing bottom.

69CoronetRT

Quote from: Shatar4 on June 14, 2006, 11:41:06 AM
I realize they would not build the motor right away but to cast it on 7-28-69 and finally put it in a car about a year later is a little bit longer then usual.

Probably not as unusual as your would think. It's not uncommon to find large differences in cast VS assembled when it comes to Hemi blocks.

Shatar and Jim, have you checked the stamped assembly dates on the drivers side? That will also give you the assembly dates in the 10K calendar. Just a suggestion....
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

JimShine

Yeah, it is very, very hard to read.  I will clean the paint down and see if that clears it up.

Arthu®

Quote from: Shatar4 on June 14, 2006, 11:24:06 AM
Quote from: 68-70 Charger on June 11, 2006, 04:09:01 PM
yep correct the casting # in 69 would have been 2536430

Arthur

OK then, I have one for you. I have a 440HP with six pack internels with a casting number of 2536430 which would have made it a 69 casting (date on the side is 7-28-69), but on the top pad it has G 440,
12-16 HP which makes it for a 71 car. How is this possable?

I said if it was a 69 engine it would have that casting #. That casting number was used from 1966 up to 1972. Why a block would be casted that long before being build I don't know.

Arthur
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Big Lebowski

They usually casted them at least 6 months before they installed them
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Shatar4

Shatar and Jim, have you checked the stamped assembly dates on the drivers side? That will also give you the assembly dates in the 10K calendar. Just a suggestion....
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On my 440 the casting date (7-28-69) and the vin are on the RH side (passenger side) along with 2536430-10 with the day/night mold. The only thing on the LH(Drivers) is 2536430-10. Am I missing it?

Shatar4

Quote from: Big Lebowski on June 14, 2006, 05:46:23 PM
They usually casted them at least 6 months before they installed them

Thats what I've always heard to but if the casting date is 7-28-69 and the install date is 12-16-71, thats 17 months difference!