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AFTER MARKET TRUNK TAIL LIGHT COVER FOR 69 CHARGER

Started by almerkel, June 07, 2006, 05:37:53 PM

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almerkel

I cannot find the resource for the after market tail light protector inside the trunk on a 69 charger.  Anyone know who does this?

mikepmcs

Life isn't Father Knows Best anymore, it's a kick in the face on a saturday night with a steel toed grip kodiak work boot and a trip to the hospital all bloodied and bashed.....for reconstructive surgery. But, what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger, right?

Shakey

Grab a copy of Mopar Collectors Guide, the company is in TN and they advertise each month.  Just under $200.00 USD.  My magazines are all at home.

JimShine

They used to be on eBay for a while. I remember them being on there atleast up to last fall. They were usually in the $150 range. I wonder why we don't see them on there anymore.

grek

As mentioned above, they're advertise in MCG.  I also saw them selling them at Carlise last year. 

Grek

Mfr426

I saw them at Carlisle last year. I've got to say that they dont look right to me. I ended up getting an original one even though it was a bit "rough" I liked the texture much better than the repop'd one.

Just 6T9 CHGR

RMC Components
P.O Box 97
Piney Flats, TN 37686

(423)538-5100
hemicuda@naxs.net

$189.00
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


almerkel


Brock Samson


resq302

FYI, I got one from RMC components and there are two verisions of the originals.  The only one being repro'd now is the narrow version but not the deep version.  What I am talking about is the area where the tail lights are on the plastic panel.  Mine is the deep version and would not fit with the narrow version.  There is like a 1" difference on the flat section where the tail light would go depth wise.  If I remember correctly, the deep version is something like 3 1/2".
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

tan top

sorry guys not trying to hijack this thread but does it also attach to the top of the welded on bumper support  bracket in side the trunk with 1 screw each side , i am sure i have seen this before some time ago , but my cover has not even got the plastic  flaps that would  be screwed on to them.don't look like they have been snapped off eather.
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resq302

According to RMC components, the covers with the plastic tabs were only for 1970 model years and the screws were never installed due to no way being able acess the screws once the cover was installed.  Again, just going by what he said.
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

tan top

Quote from: resq302 on June 13, 2006, 04:29:34 AM
According to RMC components, the covers with the plastic tabs were only for 1970 model years and the screws were never installed due to no way being able acess the screws once the cover was installed.  Again, just going by what he said.
intresting     thanks for the infomation (resq302)  :2thumbs:
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http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
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http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
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Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

694spdRT

Quote from: resq302 on June 13, 2006, 04:29:34 AM
According to RMC components, the covers with the plastic tabs were only for 1970 model years and the screws were never installed due to no way being able acess the screws once the cover was installed.  Again, just going by what he said.

My '69 is a very late build date and it as the two tabs and screw holes to match.  :scratchchin:
1968 Charger 383 auto
1969 Charger R/T 440 4 speed
1970 Charger 500 440 auto
1972 Challenger 318
1976 W200 Club Cab 4x4 400 auto 
1978 Ramcharger 360 auto
2001 Durango SLT 4.7L (daily driver)
2005 Ram 2500 4x4 Big Horn Cummins Diesel 6 speed
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Hemi

JimShine

My '69 is a November 1968 production and still has the cover. Here is how mine used to mount (it broke).


694spdRT

I will have to go look at mine again...I am almost positive it attaches down by the bumper support.
1968 Charger 383 auto
1969 Charger R/T 440 4 speed
1970 Charger 500 440 auto
1972 Challenger 318
1976 W200 Club Cab 4x4 400 auto 
1978 Ramcharger 360 auto
2001 Durango SLT 4.7L (daily driver)
2005 Ram 2500 4x4 Big Horn Cummins Diesel 6 speed
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Hemi

resq302

The pictures that were shown are the holes that attach the cover just under the trunk lip.  From what RMC components told me, the holes were punched in the bumper floor brace but screws were never installed due to clearance of installing the screws with the way the tail lights were recesses into the trunk.  Again, I am only going by what RMC components told me and they could be wrong.  1970 versions had two little rounded tabs on the bottom of the plastic cover that angled out to the area of the bumper floor brace.  They tended to easily break off which made them look exactly look like a 1969 as those tabs were the only difference.
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

bill440rt

My '70 had the lower screws. You either need to use a stubby or right-angled screwdriver to attach them. Or, a ratchet with a Phillips socket.
I've never seen or heard of deep & shallow tail light covers before. If only a narrow version is being reproduced, then I would think it's safe to say it would not fit most, if not all other Chargers, right?? Otherwise, Dodge produced two different design tail lights?? Deep & shallow?? Never saw that, either.
Anyone else?
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resq302

Bill, I pointed this out to Galen at the Mopar Atlantic Nats and he was suprised also.  Guess it is another one of those things like the long and short front bumper guards.
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

bill440rt

Brian,
I might be opening a can of worms here, & I don't mean to hi-jack this thread, but... I don't buy it.
Think about it: How many variations of this plastic trunk gizmo did Dodge make? Right now, we're up to FOUR versions:
1) Shallow with tabs.
2) Deep with tabs.
3) Shallow without tabs.
4) Deep without tabs.

Then, there's the smooth/rough grain scenario. Now, we have FOUR MORE variations of a plastic tail light cover thingy. Again, I think covers made between '69-'70 with & without the tabs is a viable argument. But all these different variations of one part, used only in two model years, doesn't make sense. And, they're only repro-ing ONE of them??
:ahum: :shruggy:
"Strive for perfection in everything. Take the best that exists and make it better. If it doesn't exist, create it. Accept nothing nearly right or good enough." Sir Henry Rolls Royce

resq302

Bill, I agree with you but I found it strange that my original tail light panel that was cracked and all marred up fit where as the repro one (narrow) didn't fit.  Again, I am just going but my observations and what was passed onto me by RMC.  I did talk to people that had the repro ones on their cars at the Mopar Atlantic Nats and theirs fit fine yet they were narrower than mine.  Who knows what Mopar did back in the day. :shruggy:
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

tan top

Quote from: 694spdRT on June 13, 2006, 11:30:55 AM
Quote from: resq302 on June 13, 2006, 04:29:34 AM
According to RMC components, the covers with the plastic tabs were only for 1970 model years and the screws were never installed due to no way being able acess the screws once the cover was installed.  Again, just going by what he said.

My '69 is a very late build date and it as the two tabs and screw holes to match.  :scratchchin:
   
                  i have got the holes in the bumper support brackets in the trunk , my 69  had build date of November 22nd  68, . so my tail light cover is deep with out tabs ,smooth grain, i am sure it is the original one it was built with.
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

resq302

Quote from: tan top on June 14, 2006, 04:00:17 AM
Quote from: 694spdRT on June 13, 2006, 11:30:55 AM
Quote from: resq302 on June 13, 2006, 04:29:34 AM
According to RMC components, the covers with the plastic tabs were only for 1970 model years and the screws were never installed due to no way being able acess the screws once the cover was installed.  Again, just going by what he said.

My '69 is a very late build date and it as the two tabs and screw holes to match.  :scratchchin:
   
                  i have got the holes in the bumper support brackets in the trunk , my 69  had build date of November 22nd  68, . so my tail light cover is deep with out tabs ,smooth grain, i am sure  is the original one it was built with.

Mine was built May 9, of 1969 and has the deep version with a fairly smooth grain (or could have worn smooth over the years).  It also has the screw hole locations in the bumper support brackets but no evidence of the tabs where they could have even broken off. 

Certainly a weird situation. :ahum:
Brian
1969 Dodge Charger (factory 4 speed, H code 383 engine,  AACA Senior winner, 2008 Concours d'Elegance participant, 2009 Concours d'Elegance award winner)
1970 Challenger Convert. factory #'s matching red inter. w/ white body.  318 car built 9/28/69 (AACA Senior winner)
1969 Plymough GTX convertible - original sheet metal, #'s matching drivetrain, T3 Honey Bronze, 1 of 701 produced, 1 of 362 with 440 4 bbl - auto

JimShine

Quote from: tan top on June 14, 2006, 04:00:17 AM
Quote from: 694spdRT on June 13, 2006, 11:30:55 AM
Quote from: resq302 on June 13, 2006, 04:29:34 AM
According to RMC components, the covers with the plastic tabs were only for 1970 model years and the screws were never installed due to no way being able acess the screws once the cover was installed.  Again, just going by what he said.

My '69 is a very late build date and it as the two tabs and screw holes to match.  :scratchchin:
   
                  i have got the holes in the bumper support brackets in the trunk , my 69  had build date of November 22nd  68, . so my tail light cover is deep with out tabs ,smooth grain, i am sure it is the original one it was built with.

Wow! Our cars are brothers! Mine was built November 25th. I will go take the panel out now and get some good pics of it and post them.

Just 6T9 CHGR

My car didnt come with one when I bought it.  The replacement I got has the lower tabs & my braces have the holes in them for screws.
There are however 2 extra holes in mine right on the top of the cover where the latch mechanism would be.....not the 2 on the verticle side of the cober but on the top horizontal side.  You can see it in this picture

As far as 2 different taillight housings, I have seen 2 different ones.

The difference is the "hood" of where the bulb socket goes into.   One is long & one is short.......this might be a factor in the shallow cover debate
Chris' '69 Charger R/T